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Microsoft is doomed and they know it!!

How you say? Let me explain. As Intel hardware based PCs gets cheaper and cheaper guess what becomes the most expense component? If you said Windows OS you win the prize. I tell you why Microsoft is bashing *nix the reason is they need the market share. They are getting their ass kicked in the middle tier of the enterprise by Linux and they don't even come close to Solaris, HP, etc in the upper tier. Sure they can keep the desktop market but as the PC price keep coming down they will eventually have to cut into the margins on the Windows OS, the PC Makers (DELL) will force them watch and see.
I think this is the reason MS started the XBox. As OSes become a commodity the only way to make money on them is package them all together with Hardware. Hmmm who does that now, Apple, Sun, HP, IBM. In the next few years youly see MS slowly shift its Business Model from mainly software to more hardware (Look for Mobile Phones by MS coming soon). They will keep Windows going by giving it to PC makers and then selling it as a service to the end user (like MSN, 19.95 a month). This is where I think they will start to decline. People will not pay monthly for a crappy OS no matter how many applications you integrate into it (IE, WORD, etc).
Oh, if you are wondering how MS will do all the above I have one word, .NET .
Thats right turn the OS/applications into web services and nickel and dime everyone to death. They already started doing it now with Media Player.
Yeah I don't think MS will ever be gone from the Intel PC desktop but I do think the desktop will be gone. I think it will evolve into something more compact and much less expensive than now (like under $200). I mean face it where MS makes its money is from people like my parents who buy computer evey two years and takes the load of crap windows that comes with it and uses it to e-mail and word process. So the only way MS can make money at that point is control the hardware and man are there some big fish to fry to do that. That's why they are jumping into the Game Console arena and Mobile Devices arena they still may have a little breathing room there.


shutting down crystal ball,

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Too bad they're losing their shirts on the Xbox. They practically have to give them away they're selling so bad in Asia and Europe.

.Net is definitely MS' big push to grab hold of some new markets...the only thing is their security/stability rep bites them in the ass when they try to move into the server/networking arena.

If we move to a completely online computing environment (OS and apps run from server, and never actually reside on your machine) MS is going to die...unless they buy their way in...
 
Re: Thick on the irony?

Originally posted by macktheknife
Oh this is too easy. "Thick" doesn't even scratch it. Microsoft's ad is *solid* irony and is unmistakable b.s. "Ties you into an inflexible system." Right. Even if UNIX is "inflixible," at least it works! Remember that Microsoft doesn't even use its own software to run its website; it uses *UNIX* because its harder to hack than the crap that Bill Gates peddles!

I really don't understand why the government hasn't broken up the Microsoft monopoly already. Netscape fell victim to Internet Explorer after Bill Gates "integrated" it into Windows. Now Real Audio might get the shaft with Windows Media Player being oh-so tightly integrated with Windows. Does the idea of tying an application into an OS seem obscene to anybody? I mean, what happens if Microsoft faces a threat to its Office application suite? The next thing that will happen is that Word, Excel, and PowerPoint become part of Windows. The only reason why this hasn't happen is that Corel, Borland, and other office productivity software have bit the dust under Bill Gates' juggernaut. It's like GM trying to sell you a car with the CD player, insurance policy, etc. "tied" together with the car without a choice for the consumer.

Sorry for the rant, but somebody's got to say it . . .

so true...that is microsoft style to the max and uncle sam is probably (justifiably) getting more dirt on ms to take them to court again

unfortunately, sun is not the smartest of companies having predicted the end of pc machines in the 1990s, a move toward having apps and hard drives in a central location, hailing the return of the dummy terminal, the ineffective free office app suite they had, and totally underestimating microsoft as a competitor

it is sad that such an "idealistic" company like sun will probably bite the dust the same way netscape and some others did against microsoft...one company i worked for had one of the netscape founders as our mentor and i know one of the founders of sun and to be honest, neither were businessmen but more suited for the clergy (very nice guys, in other words, and always willing to help out)
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Thick on the irony?

Originally posted by lordsinforge
Do a webpage using word and compare the same thing with something done in dreamweaver and the M$ word html file will most likely be bigger because of all the extra tags that they throw in, tags that are only usable in exploder...

General agreement here, but whoa, let's not use Dreamweaver as our benchmark for generating clean HTML. Seriously. If you're looking for something that generates practically the same HTML you'd write by hand, check out Freeway. I got a copy cheap at MWSF and found that it would have easily been worth the full price. It's the first web design software I've used that seemed like a really significant improvement over a plain text editor. The only time it's ever generated a page that didn't look the same in IE and Netscape on both Mac and Windows is when I wrote my own custom action and my code broke the compatibility.

(Sorry to editorialize, but this is almost certainly why they were selling FW so cheap at MWSF to start with, and I kinda feel like I owe them an occasional plug now and again. ;))
 
Unix Bashing

I've known for a while that Microsoft's web sites were on Unix servers. When I heard about this campaign, I figured they would quietly switch to Unisys. I was wrong. Today's issue of the Wall Street Journal has a quick note about the fact that Microsoft's anti-Unix website is on a Unix server. That's kind of funny. Go Bill!
 
maybe bill will buy part of sun

paul allen (co-founder of microsoft and usually second richest man year after year) is tight with linus torvalds (creator of linux) thru their transmeta connections...so anything is possible

i am glad at least that bill does not own a part of apple anymore (from what i have heard here)
 
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Too bad they're losing their shirts on the Xbox. They practically have to give them away they're selling so bad in Asia and Europe.

M$ created that X-box crap as soon as they realized that Sony's PS2 was a perfectly capable machine to connect to the internet and browse the internet, send e-mails, play dvds and everything most computer users need.
 
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