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Microsoft Working on Fix for Office Bugs in OS X El Capitan
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I only see that it's slower, but it works okay. If you open a dialogue, at first it is black. Must have something to do with Metal. I have another friend back, Super Duper! It works quite well, but when it first opens, the page is all black. It takes maybe 10 seconds for it to find itself. After that, it runs fine, but anything that makes a dialogue appear will take a while.
Good for Microsoft? They’ve known about these issues since the very first El Capitan beta. That they couldn’t be bothered to fix things until after the official release is abominable.
Yep, should surely be fixed by SP3.
Remember though that Apple have had the EL Capitan OS since alpha, never mind beta and they haven’t addresed all the issues……..
IF you guys haven't already done so, you might get more and faster response from Microsoft if you post on their Office Forums... http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/office .
I've mentioned my issues there, and I've also been sending the crash dump reports up to them and Apple in hopes that will aid them to fix sooner.
Agree with most of the posters...NO EXCUSE for either vendor for not finding and resolving these issues prior to production release of either product.
I've mentioned my issues there, and I've also been sending the crash dump reports up to them and Apple in hopes that will aid them to fix sooner.
Agree with most of the posters...NO EXCUSE for either vendor for not finding and resolving these issues prior to production release of either product.
Maybe so. Office, all versions has been pretty much rock solid for me, which is good as I use it a lot. iTunes on the other hand…….
Just for those of you that are moaning that MS had months to fix this and had access to the betas etc etc. I've been running Office 2016 on all the betas of el cap without issue. It's only since installing the final release of el cap that the issues have arisen....
I want to pile on! I have lots of problems, especially with excel crashing. I frequently report crashes and bugs using the smiley face at the top of the word/excel docs. I'm running mac mini 2014 8GB 1TB, el Cap. 10.11.1 beta.
I wonder if MS wonder's why no one uses their phones. Just my experiences:
One Drive, when I tried to use it, won't allow me upload files with 'incorrect' characters in the file names...but doesn't help me change them, it just dumps me to a system prompt...making me ask does anyone use this app before it goes out?
-The company my wife works for has a team of tech support people, I know the team as a whole has a broad set of responsibilities but several of they guys simply troubleshoot Windows issues. Which she tells me she has all the time, versus her experience at home, not having a mac issue for years, if ever. She isn't a 'tech' person, but would never buy a MS product based on this, and her web outlook experience.
-We outlook is so quirky about adding contacts to the to: field, you have to use a pop up window address book..no autocomplete.
-We both have Office issues.
-We witness constant work server issues and windows update altering configurations. (like turning on wifi on her work computer, which sends 2 IP requests, which shuts her out for security's sake.)
In theory, I can't wait for collaborative Office suite! especially when they get it working right...maybe 20 years after they roll it out.
I wonder if MS wonder's why no one uses their phones. Just my experiences:
One Drive, when I tried to use it, won't allow me upload files with 'incorrect' characters in the file names...but doesn't help me change them, it just dumps me to a system prompt...making me ask does anyone use this app before it goes out?
-The company my wife works for has a team of tech support people, I know the team as a whole has a broad set of responsibilities but several of they guys simply troubleshoot Windows issues. Which she tells me she has all the time, versus her experience at home, not having a mac issue for years, if ever. She isn't a 'tech' person, but would never buy a MS product based on this, and her web outlook experience.
-We outlook is so quirky about adding contacts to the to: field, you have to use a pop up window address book..no autocomplete.
-We both have Office issues.
-We witness constant work server issues and windows update altering configurations. (like turning on wifi on her work computer, which sends 2 IP requests, which shuts her out for security's sake.)
In theory, I can't wait for collaborative Office suite! especially when they get it working right...maybe 20 years after they roll it out.
How many global office users do you think there are using an apple machine and how many do you think there are using a PC based office install?
Kind of like iOS 9?
When was iOS 9.0.1 and 9.0.2 released? Oh yea literally like a week after.
exactly. I would wager that most people griping do not write software.
You're really misguided if you think differences between 9.0.1 and 9.0.2 have any comparison at all to the jump from iOS 8 to iOS 9.
And you apparently can't read because no one was talking about iOS 8 to iOS 9.
Is this completely Microsoft's fault? Does Apple bear any of the responsibility when they have an annual release of OS X that is followed by a few months of squashing bugs and workarounds only to have the cycle start over again with a new release of OS X?
Historically my experience on Windows, Only major updates (eg. XP -> Vista -> Win7) would cause issues for apps. Problems with hardware drivers were more frequent. What I'm experiencing with OS X is that I encounter software compatibility issues every year.
Historically my experience on Windows, Only major updates (eg. XP -> Vista -> Win7) would cause issues for apps. Problems with hardware drivers were more frequent. What I'm experiencing with OS X is that I encounter software compatibility issues every year.
This is absolutely true, but doesn't really change anything. For starters, I think there's a general assumption (however incorrect it might be in reality) that companies as large as Microsoft get superior support and access to what Apple is doing with software or OS changes. When some guy coding a small utility in his basement whines that Apple changed something and broke his software, you tend to shrug it off and say, "Well... that's how it goes. We'll have to make do without it until the guy can sort things out and release an update." When it's a company the size of Adobe or Microsoft, you hold them to a different standard (as you should, IMO, given the cost of what they sell).
Additionally, we're already collectively getting a bit "short-changed" with Office 2016, in the sense that Microsoft is trying to unify the iOS codebase with the OS X codebase this time around. You're not paying for them to develop a new OS X app. You're paying for them to port over what they already wrote for iOS so it works on the Mac. This distinction is somewhat important, because apps like Outlook 2016 seem to be lacking some features people asked for, for years, for this reason. (EG. No way to auto-archive email folders like you can on Windows versions of Office.)
Additionally, we're already collectively getting a bit "short-changed" with Office 2016, in the sense that Microsoft is trying to unify the iOS codebase with the OS X codebase this time around. You're not paying for them to develop a new OS X app. You're paying for them to port over what they already wrote for iOS so it works on the Mac. This distinction is somewhat important, because apps like Outlook 2016 seem to be lacking some features people asked for, for years, for this reason. (EG. No way to auto-archive email folders like you can on Windows versions of Office.)
Well I guess El Capitan, the bugfix and stability release of Yosemite, did change a lot more under the hood than reviewers gave it credit for. System Integrity Protection alone must have killed compatibility with hundreds of apps.
Agreed. It's just that the release was on Wednesday, and here it is on Monday, with a fix. There are assumptions in both of our understandings, mainly that Microsoft knew:
- That the bug existed
- How to fix it
- That the fix didn't cause other issues
Apps like Bartender are advising people to disable SIP, install their app and run it, then enable SIP. It's a bit crazy.
Because it WAS working perhaps.
Entourage/outlook for the Mac has always been a piece of crap compared to the windows version.
Buggy, missing features, poor design choices, etc.
It has been so consistently poor in all areas I believe it is a business choice to "encourage" corporate users to stick to Windows.
Lync has now been dumped for OS X for the new "Skype for Business" and they are not updating the old version, nor putting a Mac front end on the PC version, but are just starting a rewrite now, putting the Mac version YEARS behind the Windows version.
I now do more stuff in Libre Office, for 99% of the stuff I do it more than adequate. Its on all the machines at home, + the inlaws .
Entourage/outlook for the Mac has always been a piece of crap compared to the windows version.
Buggy, missing features, poor design choices, etc.
It has been so consistently poor in all areas I believe it is a business choice to "encourage" corporate users to stick to Windows.
Lync has now been dumped for OS X for the new "Skype for Business" and they are not updating the old version, nor putting a Mac front end on the PC version, but are just starting a rewrite now, putting the Mac version YEARS behind the Windows version.
I now do more stuff in Libre Office, for 99% of the stuff I do it more than adequate. Its on all the machines at home, + the inlaws .
