Yep. If an issue has anything to do with an Apple product, it's always Apple's fault.
I wish people would stop trying to analyze issues and just blindly blame Apple. Life would be so much easier!
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Microsoft Working on Fix for Office Bugs in OS X El Capitan
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I wish people would stop trying to analyze issues and just blindly blame Apple. Life would be so much easier!
I believe all the Microsoft Office apps share the same engine code. The work is in the UI, and ensuring the engine works well on each platform.
I can't really see Microsoft perfecting the Office engine on PowerPC and iOS, and then try to port it BACK to x86 and OS X.
Well good new/bad news.
Lync has been abandoned as far as the new "Skype for Business" is concerned. Bad news is they are only just working on a replacement. Its should only be a year or more away and probably 3 years before it is stable.
The issue is not about updating to El Capitan or not. It has to do with updating to Office 2016 or not.
I am using Office 2011 with El Capitan, and I am having no problem.
I really don't know how to respond to this without this dwindling into a contest of who has urinating prowess, but I just like that they've acknowledged the issues and have said that they're working on a fix. I do have my reservations about Microsoft (especially Excel not having stock look-ups in the Mac version), but to castigate them for not fixing stuff makes me look at other options (Actually, Office works on my Macs without these issues), like OpenOffice, Numbers, or other options.
Voting with your feet is the best way to express dissatisfaction.
I certainly hope so.
Tho I'm afraid most (local) business are very...very conservative.
I work at a top 50 worldwide construction company, and ms office is just THE standard for reporting, analysing and everything else, it's sad and frightening. And this is not a special company, a lot of them do it and this will change only very slowly.
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It's just not possible to foresee all the things people do with their apps (From using outdated to "customized". And, not every developer adheres to Apple's guidelines thinking they have a better mousetrap or taking shortcuts.
Plus, security issues have made any OS more complex.
If MS Office wasn't an essential app not working properly, nobody would make a big deal about it.
greed, but since 1984 every OS has had it's issues.
It's just not possible to foresee all the things people do with their apps (From using outdated to "customized". And, not every developer adheres to Apple's guidelines thinking they have a better mousetrap or taking shortcuts.
Plus, security issues have made any OS more complex.
If MS Office wasn't an essential app not working properly, nobody would make a big deal about it.
That entire lync becomes 'skype for business' was so confusing also!
I thought I could log in with my business account on a regular Skype...haha
I assume the iOS version will be first. and as you said maybe a decent version in a couple of years
I am still on Yosemite with Office 2011. Over the past year Office 2011 has been less and less stable, getting worse with each update (seemingly) to either Office or the OS. In particular, slide show mode in PowerPoint crashes fairly often. I often give full-day seminars and can now expect 4-5 crashes in PowerPoint each day.
Last year they started trying to sell Office 365 for the Mac, which was pretty comical given that they hadn't updated the product apart from security fixes in over 3 years. Now that 2016 is out, I am faced with the question of whether to purchase a single license or get the subscription. If any other office-type software could actually produce and consume MS Office format files for interchange with everybody else in the world, I would use it. But I have tried OpenOffice and I have tried the iWork suite, and both are basically crap. Office, being the de facto standard, is an evil I have to live with.
Last year they started trying to sell Office 365 for the Mac, which was pretty comical given that they hadn't updated the product apart from security fixes in over 3 years. Now that 2016 is out, I am faced with the question of whether to purchase a single license or get the subscription. If any other office-type software could actually produce and consume MS Office format files for interchange with everybody else in the world, I would use it. But I have tried OpenOffice and I have tried the iWork suite, and both are basically crap. Office, being the de facto standard, is an evil I have to live with.
I had to trash the One Drive for Business client and (try to) work with the web app. I did see that they just announced a new trial client on the way that you can sign up for here:
https://preview.onedrive.com/sync
Hoping to hear something soon.
What are you talking about? El Capitan is fine. If Microsoft wants to make their software available for Mac users, then they need to prepare their apps for under the hood changes that the new OS X presents.
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The retail version of Office 2011 for Mac was around 900 MB and install took around 2.5 GB total of space
I think some are missing the point. It's fine for developers to have the time to get the Apps and Packages ready to present to the world but why put something out that obviously isn't ready and can't even sustain basic operability?
I don't think anyone is pointing a finger "You..yea you, get it done and get it done now!" Why rush to failure? Why not a simple statement, "While we understand you're patiently waiting to use our wonderful MS Office 2016, we want to ensure you have the best experience as possible. Please allow just a little more of your time and we'll have you up and running."
Just my thought of reason.
I don't think anyone is pointing a finger "You..yea you, get it done and get it done now!" Why rush to failure? Why not a simple statement, "While we understand you're patiently waiting to use our wonderful MS Office 2016, we want to ensure you have the best experience as possible. Please allow just a little more of your time and we'll have you up and running."
Just my thought of reason.
Lol, they called the suite office 2016 but it can't run on a 2015 operative system....
Works fine with other versions of OS X, so the issue is changes at the OS level as you say.
How many betas did Apple go through? So given MS can only fully test once it goes GM they will clearly need time to correct anything apple have changed..
Par for MS....1 step forward and 2 steps back. But we always pat them on the back anyway and say..."good boy, now roll over...".
Lest you forget, there would be no MS if there was no Apple. There wouldn't be Windows if the was no Mac OS to steal from. Chicken or egg, which came first?
