Microsoft

[Wry Cooter]

Re: ha ha, nice blag Micro!!!

Originally posted by barkmonster
I'd like to see the judge not only say "Okay, do it!" but I'd like to see in enforced to the point where Micro$oft employee's responsible for it's marketing and distribution end up in prison if it doesn't happen on a world wide scale.

World Wide? Unfortunately, I don't think the DOJ could do diddly about Microsofts operations in other countries, where they could buy the governments three times over.

 

[teiz]

cut the crap

Ah, you pathetic people. There's nothing wrong with windows... In fact lately I prefer my PC over my mac. OS X really sucks, it's slow and it's incompatible. Just stop fooling yourself. And all the software developers (adobe, macromedia, even microsoft) are forcing you to use this new system. WindowsXP just offers me all I need, it's very fast and compatible with all older software, it never crashes and it's secure...

tsktsktsk,
Teiz

 

[AlphaTech]

Re: cut the crap

Originally posted by teiz
Ah, you pathetic people. There's nothing wrong with windows... In fact lately I prefer my PC over my mac. OS X really sucks, it's slow and it's incompatible. Just stop fooling yourself. And all the software developers (adobe, macromedia, even microsoft) are forcing you to use this new system. WindowsXP just offers me all I need, it's very fast and compatible with all older software, it never crashes and it's secure...

tsktsktsk,
Teiz

Ahhh the sound of the delusional speaking... xp blows worse then any operating system out there... you say it offers you all that you need... how do you know with xp since they removed your options to choose?

With OS X, you get a fast, stable OS. Without knowing what you have to a Mac and peecee, it's hard to say what you did wrong. Also, you probably are not running the latest version of OS X...

Windows continues to copy the Mac OS with each revision they come up with. What else do you think influenced the look of xp?

If you can afford to pay the hundreds of dollars to purchase the latest OS from windblows, then go ahead. I would much rather get the Mac updates, which have always been less money.

Apple is not 'forcing' anyone to develop software for OS X, the user community is. Then again, m$ has forced developers to do much, much worse.

Mac's are still superior in more ways then I have time to go into.

 

[mcrain]

Re: Re: cut the crap

Originally posted by AlphaTech
Then again, m$ has forced developers to do much, much worse.

That reminds me of a story involving sheep, power tools, and produce, but that's probably not appropriate to discuss here.

 

[teiz]

I'm using Mac OSX 10.1.3 and I'm using quarkxpress 4.11, photoshop 6 and Illustartor 9. I have a DP500Mhz G4. These programs are not compatible with mac osx, still it works better than mac os9, wich really sucks. How many bombs can you take on a day? And in XP you can still choose all the installation options, you just have to know how. And about the interface, you can disable the luna interface and go back to the boring grey windows look, but it's fast. The interface of osx is worse. All this anti-aliasing is no good. And look at the benchmarks comparing macosx to macos9.

Just wake up...

teiz

p.s. I could never live without my mac, don't get me wrong. But I also cannot miss my PC.

 

[krossfyter]

what do you think about xp pro?

 

[teiz]

XP PRO is really good, disable all the visual **** and you have a very fast, stable OS with a lot of functionality. Home edition is good enough for most user though. System restore is a very good function. Remote desktop is a very good fuction. Surfing internet goes better on a PC. Playing games is more fun on a PC with my Soundblaster live and 4pount surround speakers.

I doen't get it, why do mac users always have to hate windows? Only mac users who haven't really worked with windows yell this kind of nonsense. And the command prompt wich al the mac os 7, 8, 9 users laughed at is now needed in X (but now it is called terminal) to have total control, while in XP it's gone (well almost, you don't need it to have total control). And what really sucks in X is you can't share just any folder or drive. You have to install some hard to use SharePoints.prefPane in your library/PreferencePanes and maybe when your einstein you can share another drive or folder.

teiz

 

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by teiz
I'm using Mac OSX 10.1.3 and I'm using quarkxpress 4.11, photoshop 6 and Illustartor 9. I have a DP500Mhz G4. These programs are not compatible with mac osx, still it works better than mac os9, wich really sucks. How many bombs can you take on a day? And in XP you can still choose all the installation options, you just have to know how. And about the interface, you can disable the luna interface and go back to the boring grey windows look, but it's fast. The interface of osx is worse. All this anti-aliasing is no good. And look at the benchmarks comparing macosx to macos9.

Just wake up...

teiz

p.s. I could never live without my mac, don't get me wrong. But I also cannot miss my PC.

One.. Illustrator 10 has been out for a while now, go and get the upgrade. Photoshop 7 is coming in April... again, get the upgrade. Quark 5 will be made to run native under OS X soon (no exact time frame as of yet, but it is coming)

I have yet to have a bomb under OS X in the year or so that I have been running it.

XP blows large, nasty smelling chunks... I don't want to HAVE to contact m$ everytime I either change some of my hardware, or need to reinstall the OS. YOU WILL HAVE TO DO THAT WITH XP. Another bad thing about hex-p... you cannot upgrade from 2000 pro... At least not without spending a couple of hundred dollars (or more).

M$ is the large evil empire that everyone hates, and most people have to slave under. Become a freedom fighter and use either one of the Mac OS's (X is preferred) or run linux on your peecee.

 

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by teiz
XP PRO is really good, disable all the visual **** and you have a very fast, stable OS with a lot of functionality. Home edition is good enough for most user though. System restore is a very good function. Remote desktop is a very good fuction. Surfing internet goes better on a PC. Playing games is more fun on a PC with my Soundblaster live and 4pount surround speakers.

I doen't get it, why do mac users always have to hate windows? Only mac users who haven't really worked with windows yell this kind of nonsense. And the command prompt wich al the mac os 7, 8, 9 users laughed at is now needed in X (but now it is called terminal) to have total control, while in XP it's gone (well almost, you don't need it to have total control). And what really sucks in X is you can't share just any folder or drive. You have to install some hard to use SharePoints.prefPane in your library/PreferencePanes and maybe when your einstein you can share another drive or folder.

teiz

XP is just 2K warmed over with new "features" that you have to disable just to make it usable.
Remote Desktop is also a security problem waiting to happen.
IE is faster on a PC because it's BUILT IN to the OS.
Games...woohoo...why don't you try doing something useful?
You can get Soundblaster cards for Macs too...

As for the rest...blah, blah, blah...SharePoint.prefPane...what the hell are you talking about?!?

Mac users hate Windows because we've all had to use it at one time or another. We know how much more difficult it is to use than Mac OS. Have you actually used OS X?

 

[hockey6773]

Originally posted by teiz
XP PRO is really good, disable all the visual **** and you have a very fast, stable OS with a lot of functionality. Home edition is good enough for most user though. System restore is a very good function. Remote desktop is a very good fuction. Surfing internet goes better on a PC. Playing games is more fun on a PC with my Soundblaster live and 4pount surround speakers.

I doen't get it, why do mac users always have to hate windows? Only mac users who haven't really worked with windows yell this kind of nonsense. And the command prompt wich al the mac os 7, 8, 9 users laughed at is now needed in X (but now it is called terminal) to have total control, while in XP it's gone (well almost, you don't need it to have total control). And what really sucks in X is you can't share just any folder or drive. You have to install some hard to use SharePoints.prefPane in your library/PreferencePanes and maybe when your einstein you can share another drive or folder.

teiz

You say only people that haven't worked on PCs complian! I'm 15 years old and have grown up using peecees and macs Ive used peecees at school friends and my own. I might only be 15 but the two things I do know is 1. Bill Gates is a thief Microsoft overly charge everything they sell and 2. Every time Iv'e ever seen someone use a PC it crashes. Ive been running ten on me imac snow for 6 months now and it hasnt crashed once and belive me im pretty good at crashing OSes.

 

[AlphaTech]

I just has to toss in about the sharing issues with OS X... If you have a system, running OSX, that you want to share to another (works under 9.x AND X) all you need to do is go into the Sharing item under the Preferences panel. Turn sharing on, and then navigate to it as you would any file share/server... it's THAT easy. I just did it between my TiBook running OS X (10.1.3) and the G4 733 (running 9.2.2) at work. The ENTIRE drive shows up, will all folders under it.

 

[spikey]

I use XP pro.
Yes XP is reasonably stable, and yes it is usable.
But
It is ugly as ****, it is slow, it is a slug. It takes too much from the cpu to do too little, this is widely acknowledged by anyone who knows anything about it. You, obviously do not.

Take your fischer price interface and go back to ****ing kindergarten. Or go and get felt up by a kiddie fiddler priest, or just go anywhere else but here.

 

[AmbitiousLemon]

spikeys back kids. watch out.

welcome back man.

 

[Wry Cooter]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
I just has to toss in about the sharing issues with OS X... If you have a system, running OSX, that you want to share to another (works under 9.x AND X) all you need to do is go into the Sharing item under the Preferences panel. Turn sharing on, and then navigate to it as you would any file share/server... it's THAT easy. I just did it between my TiBook running OS X (10.1.3) and the G4 733 (running 9.2.2) at work. The ENTIRE drive shows up, will all folders under it.

as a consumer in the stores, I see two faces of XP: The elegant all XP set up with the clean new apps as installed. And the XP set up that has actually been used, scattered with ugly win 98 style icons all over the desktop. OS X suffers from a bit of this itself if you venture into classic much, as I'm sure most of us must on occasion despite any attempt at keeping our OS X experience pure and cocoa or carbon only.

This has nothing to do with the speed or useability of either OS, but points toward the general trend toward eye candy versus productivity as a nudge to keep people buying new hardware and software that can handle the graphics overhead.

 

[MacLuver23]

my opinion....

If Micro$oft shall fall.... Apple will rule...!!!!

 

[Polith]

Microsoft

IF Apple ruled the world, then everyone would be using PowerBooks and iBooks and yes Towers and iMacs. May not seem bad, but what makes my computer special is no one knows what it is, except one in every five people on my campus. (TiBook 550) Also a lot of people enjoy choice. Under Apple's rule there would be no choice. Everyone would have G4, G5's and Apple Hardware-Now there's a monopoly if I ever heard one. I believe Steve Jobs is too power hungry to allow any clones(or porting of X) if Apple were to dominate the market. Personally (I use Macs and Wintel Boxes) I would enjoy Apple at around 30% of the market. Is a good stronghold yet also leaves room for competition and most importantly, leaves room for innovation. People would continually design new products because they want to gain more market share, thus leading the industry to a more diverse community. Oh yeah, Bill Gates and Microsoft would be the company on stage with a huge picture of Jobs behind smiling like he owns the world.