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Microsoft's Bing to Replace Google As Default Search Engine on iPhone?
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Why not just have Yahoo! as the default search engine and make Google, Ask and Bing the other options? Surely it can't be that hard to switch the default setting from Google to Yahoo!? I switched to Yahoo! as I'm tired of Google trying to take over the world
It'd be a move Microsoft is capable of doing. Putting tons of money just to make their product "popular" even if it sucks.. and Bing does suck. It's like they are doing with IE8 campaign now, paying bloggers to promote it, paying users to use it (Netlog), paying websites to add it's sucky webclip feature, ...
I doubt this is true, "one of the people, who's familiar with Apple's thinking" is either a clueless geek or someone doing PR for Bing. Google and Apple cooperate for years, it's more Microsoft and Apple that are bigger enemies.
I doubt this is true, "one of the people, who's familiar with Apple's thinking" is either a clueless geek or someone doing PR for Bing. Google and Apple cooperate for years, it's more Microsoft and Apple that are bigger enemies.
Good. I for one am pleased by this. No doubt, you will be able to switch back to Google anyway. Unfortunately, I've come to depend on Google, but everytime I have to type those six letters into the task bar, I shudder. While Microsoft is Apple's longtime rival, I view their relationship more of a family feud. They dislike each other for the sake of disliking each other. Say what you will about Google, but I think it is a dangerous organisation, with a backlog of hidden agendas it can't wait to fulfill. BING!
Well I never thought I'd see the day when Apple preferred Microsoft's solutions to others...
Office withstanding (well, it's debatable I know..
), Microsoft products generally suck. I like the bird's eye view on Bing maps but other than that I don't see how it's better than Google.
Maybe this is an interim solution. Maybe spotlight.com is in the works...
Office withstanding (well, it's debatable I know..
), Microsoft products generally suck. I like the bird's eye view on Bing maps but other than that I don't see how it's better than Google.Maybe this is an interim solution. Maybe spotlight.com is in the works...
I think Apple should be thinking more about customer satisfaction rather than rivalry with Google. Microsoft is also an enemy and using their search engine is no better than using Google's, in that point of view.
However, Google's search engine is the best in the world because everyone uses it, so it has the most information about searches and therefore it gives the most accurate results. Not using Google would be stupid. Especially on the desktop Safari. I mean then I would just switch to using Google Chrome, but I would miss all the features of Safari. But the most important feature is an efficient way of searching, and Google's Images search is also very powerful.
I really hope Apple won't do this. If they make their own search engine, that may or may not be fine... it depends on whether they can make it as good as Google. And the same thing applies for Maps. I hate this "Apple vs. Google" thing, just get the f*ck along and work together people, it's the only way you can make progress. It was all working so well!
Plus the Android isn't really a competitor to the iPhone as it's a totally different style of phone, and the Chrome OS isn't competition either as we've learned before. The Chrome browser is, but then Firefox is as well and that's not their biggest problem. And just because you have competition doesn't mean you have to ditch the other company, even if their services make your company better.
However, Google's search engine is the best in the world because everyone uses it, so it has the most information about searches and therefore it gives the most accurate results. Not using Google would be stupid. Especially on the desktop Safari. I mean then I would just switch to using Google Chrome, but I would miss all the features of Safari. But the most important feature is an efficient way of searching, and Google's Images search is also very powerful.
I really hope Apple won't do this. If they make their own search engine, that may or may not be fine... it depends on whether they can make it as good as Google. And the same thing applies for Maps. I hate this "Apple vs. Google" thing, just get the f*ck along and work together people, it's the only way you can make progress. It was all working so well!
Plus the Android isn't really a competitor to the iPhone as it's a totally different style of phone, and the Chrome OS isn't competition either as we've learned before. The Chrome browser is, but then Firefox is as well and that's not their biggest problem. And just because you have competition doesn't mean you have to ditch the other company, even if their services make your company better.
Regular people don't actually care. As much as this may be a moderate-sized thing corporately-speaking, it means very little for end-users.
Firstly, there are two types of people: those who care deeply about which search engine is the default, and those who don't.
Those who don't, won't give a crap. And in spite of the discussions on these forums, the people on this site are not representative of average users. Average users do not debate Bing vs Google. And sitting there and explaining to them all the thousands of reasons why Google is better (in your individual preference) than Bing won't mean a great deal when it's based on your priorities, and particularly if they don't understand, or care about, the technical minutiae.
I mean, I absolutely guarantee you that there will be a certain segment of users who prefer Bing purely and solely because it has pretty pictures in the background, and they really can't tell any difference in the search results. And they don't care if it's by Microsoft, cos they "type their files in Microsoft at work" (ie: not getting the distinction between Microsoft and Office). It may be earth-shaking for the techno-geek crowd, but ask your grandmother if she's hot and bothered about it. All they want is: type words, get sites. I use Google every time. But most people just want a search box, and as long as Bing generates results, a lot of people won't care or be any less satisfied than with Google. I really don't see how "customer satisfaction" will be impacted here, aside from.....
.... those who do, for whom Google won't be going away. There's no freaking way. It'd be like removing POP access from iPhone Mail, or HTTPS from MobileSafari. You're only something like 3 taps away from changing it back. I mean, what, are you just going to not buy an iPhone simply because Bing is the default search engine? That's like the definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face. For the want of 3 taps, are people going to refuse to buy an iPhone? Did anyone refuse to buy a Mac simply because IE for Mac was the default back in the day? Change it - who cares? Was customer satisfaction diminished because IE for Mac was the default rather than Netscape? (My own personal vendetta and struggle to finally banish IE 5.2.3 from my company's network once and for all notwithstanding.)
Secondly, it amounts to only really throwing pebbles at Google. As big as the iPhone is in the mobile market, it's still dwarfed by desktop internet usage. Google didn't get big because Apple had Google as the default engine on the iPhone. A bigger deal would be changing desktop Safari to another engine, but even then, there's Firefox on Mac, Windows and Linux as a minimum, and Google is #1 even with IE still being #1 (even if it is declining). Even if you were to assume iPhone and Mac numbers are the same, iPhone (and other mobile device) internet usage is in short spurts, not prolonged research like can be found on desktop computers.
If it was simply about sticking the finger to Google, they'd simply switch it to Yahoo, since it's already in there. There's more here than just saying screw you to Google.
Additionally, this is hardly a war. Google has limited avenues to retaliate. What are they doing to do? Push Android even more than they are? Apple owns two major platforms. Google owns one, and it has nothing in there which leverages Apple. About all they could do is dump their WebKit-based browser as Android's browser and replace it with something else like a Gecko-based one. Which is simply making a rod for their own back. Are they going to dump Chrome or other Mac apps? Make their systems incompatible with Macs? No, because doing so would be idiocy. It would be cutting off customers - they want more of them, not less, and replacing people's choice of online web services is easier than convincing them to replace an entire computer. And wouldn't help Google that much anyway. Would you replace your Mac with a PC just because Picasa or Chrome suddenly wasn't available for Mac? (If you would, I personally don't want to have anything to do with you.)
Can't be true, nobody in the world uses Bing, it is atrocious, there is no alternative to Google and that's a good thing.
But this just reminds me of how unfortunate it is that Google pulled away from Apple and positioned itself as a rival. For once it wasn't Apple's fault, Google just didn't have the imagination to figure out how they could grow and make money partnered with Apple, so they just decided to compete with Apple wherever it went.
An Apple/Google alliance would have brought down Microsoft.
But this just reminds me of how unfortunate it is that Google pulled away from Apple and positioned itself as a rival. For once it wasn't Apple's fault, Google just didn't have the imagination to figure out how they could grow and make money partnered with Apple, so they just decided to compete with Apple wherever it went.
An Apple/Google alliance would have brought down Microsoft.
Apple don't cut off your nose to spite your face.
I see this as "cutting off your nose to spite your face."
Google is an incredible search engine, and Bing fails miserably, not even comparing to second and third tier search engines.
I understand Apple wanting to distance itself from Google, but geez, going from the best search engine, to a subpar one? It doesn't make sense. Apple usually tries to give the enduser the best experience. If Apple was to go with Yahoo, Altavista, or even Ask Jeeves, this wouldn't be a concern, but I've used Bing and it's bunk.
Walt D in LV
I see this as "cutting off your nose to spite your face."
Google is an incredible search engine, and Bing fails miserably, not even comparing to second and third tier search engines.
I understand Apple wanting to distance itself from Google, but geez, going from the best search engine, to a subpar one? It doesn't make sense. Apple usually tries to give the enduser the best experience. If Apple was to go with Yahoo, Altavista, or even Ask Jeeves, this wouldn't be a concern, but I've used Bing and it's bunk.
Walt D in LV
Bing predates to 1998 MSN Search. With billions of dollars spent, Microsoft Windows monopoly pushing MSN internet efforts, somehow google came out on top. Must be because Bing is better.
Ok people, it's a rumor. An unlikely rumor with no clear benefit to Apple.
1. Thanks for that, Fanboy. I know the history of Bing. Bing maps and aerial views (with bird's eye) are far better than Google's, and there usually isn't a massive search difference.
2. No clear benefit? lol. How about money?
Do you have a reason for it "failing miserably"? Or are you just being a fanboy. Want to know something funny? Bing has a far better privacy track record than Google.
It might be good if Apple could create a way of amalgamating all the search engines Google, Bing, Yahoo etc and then refilter them against each other to find the ultimate best results.
omg
please don't apple. just please don't do the bing.
the only way i'll forgive you if you do is this:
an apple search engine that searches Google and Bing plus whatever else at the same time.
but if you go with bing alone, and leave out the google-you're retarded.
that is all.
please don't apple. just please don't do the bing.
the only way i'll forgive you if you do is this:
an apple search engine that searches Google and Bing plus whatever else at the same time.
but if you go with bing alone, and leave out the google-you're retarded.
that is all.
seriously....?
I really find it hilarious how you are all whining about how Bing is so garbage, atrocious and stupid, without even mentioning the most important aspect: Why?
I bet that 99% of you havent even tried it and complain about it just because its made by Microsoft.
Im a Mac user myself and I have switched from Google to Bing. I never regretted it.
I really find it hilarious how you are all whining about how Bing is so garbage, atrocious and stupid, without even mentioning the most important aspect: Why?
I bet that 99% of you havent even tried it and complain about it just because its made by Microsoft.
Im a Mac user myself and I have switched from Google to Bing. I never regretted it.
It´s probably me, but the results you show of Google seem to be far more accurate than Bing´s.
I had never really looked at Bing maps until today and surprise, surprise, I think it's better than Google's offering! The satellite photos are generally newer and crisper, and I really enjoy the Bird's Eye view. I boycott Google street view anyway (for my own reasons), so lacking that in Bing is no big deal. In terms of search...eh, I'll still have to go to Google on occasion, but the more I think of it, the less Google needs to be in my life. Microsoft may be 'unoriginal' and 'soul-less' in the things they do, but at least I don't have to worry that they're hoarding public information for the US government (or are they?!)!
Google = Censorship! So be glad there will be another option. I don't understand all you MS haters. I do not have any MS products on my MBP but I am quite familiar with windows due to my job and it does not as annoy me as you do when I read 90% of this thread.