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Just get over it!

nope, because then we would have something that you just dont get as a microsoft ad in an apple forum: the benefit of the doubt.

"Doubt" that's about all Microsoft has got left to hold on to.People empathize with doubt but not indefinately. If that's all this multi million dollar ad campaign has to offer it will open up many new customers for Apple. The only reason there are so many posts on this thread is because Apple users threw out any doubts they may have had when they first started using their Macs.
 
"Doubt" that's about all Microsoft has got left to hold on to.

Well that and about 95% of the OS market.

People empathize with doubt but not indefinately. If that's all this multi million dollar ad campaign has to offer it will open up many new customers for Apple.

I doubt it. Against the poor perception of Vista, a massive advertising campaign and the halo effect of iPods and the iPhone Macs OS share has gone up by about 2% and has broadly flattened over the last four months.

The only reason there are so many posts on this thread is because Apple users threw out any doubts they may have had when they first started using their Macs.

Or because the advertising strategy worked.
 
Well that and about 95% of the OS market.



I doubt it. Against the poor perception of Vista, a massive advertising campaign and the halo effect of iPods and the iPhone Macs OS share has gone up by about 2% and has broadly flattened over the last four months.



Or because the advertising strategy worked.

It's what it is, 95% market-share but that is changing quicker than ever and make no mistake,Apple is throttling Microsoft with it's products and we're hearing the gurgling noises through these White Trash adds. Remember Apple is now worth a whole lot of money,more than IBM and not far behind the outdated giant Microsoft. The beast is down and it won't be getting back up.
 
If they had used an attractive female at the end this ad would have redeemed itself and wouldn't have been such a saggy flop! Just kidding,women graduate from university at a higher rate than men and spend over 90% of the household budget,I hope they don't run this ad in Europe where people have more respect for women.

LOL, so you somehow figure that peoples with more respect of women than the americans somehow would demand that a woman should be present in any and all ads? I'm sorry, but that notion is showing a _lack_ of respect for woman. It's chauvinistic in nature (which it would still be had you demanded that men should be present in all adverts).

It's what it is, 95% market-share but that is changing quicker than ever and make no mistake,Apple is throttling Microsoft with it's products and we're hearing the gurgling noises through these White Trash adds. Remember Apple is now worth a whole lot of money,more than IBM and not far behind the outdated giant Microsoft. The beast is down and it won't be getting back up.

Yeah right …

As the mouse said to the elephant while crossing the bridge:

"Man, listen to our stomping!"
 
It's what it is, 95% market-share but that is changing quicker than ever and make no mistake,Apple is throttling Microsoft with it's products and we're hearing the gurgling noises through these White Trash adds. Remember Apple is now worth a whole lot of money,more than IBM and not far behind the outdated giant Microsoft. The beast is down and it won't be getting back up.

Dude, are you for real?
 
it should be self evident to anyone who has watched this ad that Microsoft is incapable of competing with their own products against Apple. For anyone who still doesn't use a mac but has an iPod just compare your iPod to Microsofts' players and you will have a "taste" of the differences between their computers...eneough said.

Microsoft doesn't make computers.

Besides that, what do you mean?

a) that the MS-players, being the underdog, says that PCs with windows installed is the underdog?

b) That Macs have crappy audio quality?

c) that Macs have extremely bugridden software?

d) that when looking at the two show that Apple's stuff isn't catering to the lowest common denominator?

e) that Macs are way more crippled than PCs, having less working features?

f) that macs tend to go backwards in featuresets, even with such basic features as Disk Mode?

g) that, assuming we include phones, Apple's computers are seriously handicapped and no more than a fashion statement?

h) that Apple computer's have a lousy build quality?

i) that "stuff" from Apple computers is so tied in and proprietary that one has to be willing to hang your independence on the coat rack, and be content with not being able to do what you want, but rather only do what Steve Jobs and Co want you to?

Yes, except for A, you really do have a point.
 
Yes!Microsofts 95% leaves almost no room for growth and with only 5% of the OS market Apple is worth 3/5 that of Microsoft!

Yes, all based on the new milleniums answer to the Walkman from Sony.
How much do you think a music player can evolve except for new clours and shapes? Oh, that's right. Not much, but at least Apple can go the other way and invent a _lack_ of features.

:p
 
This commercial = FAIL

Like someone said "Too clever for their own good". Trying to promote yourself as a company for the masses by confusing the hell out of the masses.
 
Yes, all based on the new milleniums answer to the Walkman from Sony.
How much do you think a music player can evolve except for new clours and shapes? Oh, that's right. Not much, but at least Apple can go the other way and invent a _lack_ of features.

:p

It seems to annoy you that speculators have so much confidence in Apples huge potential market and Microsofts "dinky" growth market. At least you can calm down whilst listening to 80's music on your beloved iPod!
 
It seems to annoy you that speculators have so much confidence in Apples huge potential market and Microsofts "dinky" growth market. At least you can calm down whilst listening to 80's music on your beloved iPod!

You're making a whole lot of assumptions.

Growth is good from an investor point of view. However, that doesn't mean that a company with, say, a 300 percent growth going from 1 to 3 percent somehow wields more power than a company with a smaller growth because it sits on more than 90 percent of the market.
You should think about the extremely short mouse and elephant story I mentioned earlier.

What I am saying is that just because speculators have full confidence in future growth doesn't mean it will continue, nor that the speculation will work in the long run. Go take a look at dotcom bubble, the subprime crisis, and the credit crisis, just to name a few recent ones.

The thing is, most of Apple's success as a company is based on "the new millenium walkman". And even though the walkman fad lasted for years and years, it suddenly died. Fortunately Sony didn't have all their eggs in one basket, but unfortunately for sony, they decided to cripple the heir, the Sony Minidisc with propretary technology and crippled feature sets. Ring a bell?

I guess, though, that in your book, anyone that doesn't believe that the iPod is the end all of everything, must be annoyed by speculators "confidence". :rolleyes:

Besides, do I have to, once again, pull out the mouse and elephant story: When it comes to survival in the long run, I'd rather have the job, than having the "potential" to get the job, if you catch my drift.
 
LOL, is that all you can come up with? A claim that it doesn't fit?

Get real. The only thing lacking perspective here is your unfounded claims.

Also lacking here is the realization that MS is actually producing these commercials to stop the bleeding. Why else would they feel the need to make such a gargantuan and 'mammoth' effort?
 
Also lacking here is the realization that MS is actually producing these commercials to stop the bleeding. Why else would they feel the need to make such a gargantuan and 'mammoth' effort?

Sure – with that reasoning, Coca-Cola is also "bleeding" and in a downwards death spiral :rolleyes:

However, they can surely be considering some sort "damage control", but that is only part of the equation.
 
There went a minute and a half of my life I'll never get back. :mad:

How does this relate to Vista?

Oh and now that Bill is gone from Microsoft, does he still need to dress as nerdy as ever? :cool:
 
Sure – with that reasoning, Coca-Cola is also "bleeding" and in a downwards death spiral :rolleyes:

However, they can surely be considering some sort "damage control", but that is only part of the equation.

Coca Cola has been continuously losing market share since 2000. They have been, in fact, bleeding, and have been losing market share to fruit juices, non carbonated drinks, energy drinks, bottled water, Pepsi Cola's cola alternatives such as Mountain Dew, and cheaper Cola brands worldwide. In fact, Coca-Cola has been investing in vitamin water, fruit juices, and bottled water companies such as Desani, which has had recalls for having excessively high levels of the chemical bromate. Coca-Cola had controlled 44.1 percent of the United States market, which has slipped to 41 percent, and has slipped to 53 percent worldwide from 57 percent in 2000.

Downward spiral, perhaps not - decline in market share, apparently so.
 
Coca Cola has been continuously losing market share since 2000. They have been, in fact, bleeding, and have been losing market share to fruit juices, non carbonated drinks, energy drinks, bottled water, Pepsi Cola's cola alternatives such as Mountain Dew, and cheaper Cola brands worldwide. In fact, Coca-Cola has been investing in vitamin water, fruit juices, and bottled water companies such as Desani, which has had recalls for having excessively high levels of the chemical bromate. Coca-Cola had controlled 44.1 percent of the United States market, which has slipped to 41 percent, and has slipped to 53 percent worldwide from 57 percent in 2000.

Downward spiral, perhaps not - decline in market share, apparently so.

Apple ain't perfect-far be it for me to say that they live up to their promises.The journey continues...
 
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