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Microsoft's Prototype Multi-Touch Tablet/Booklet

Rodimus Prime said:
you right is like debating with a rock. you are the Rock.

Unlike Apple Microsoft will see potentional in a product and keep working with it to take advantage of it.

Apple on the other hand if something does not work right off the bat they drop it like a Red head step child. Apple screwed up the Cube gave up on it. Apple screwed up Apple TV and pretty much does little to improve it. Apple had the chance to enter the consul market but screwed up early on and never bother to try to fix the problem. Hell the entry cost back then were a lot less. Not the billions that Sony and MS had to pay to enter.
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You should be charging for this info! Apple launching a game platform is rock solid business advice. I mean, what computer platform is more synonymous with gaming right now than Apple? I'm sure they would have blown PS3 sales out of the water!

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Pocket lint said:
Not related at all, but what we really need is yet another semi-propriety pseudo standard. Let's all use a connection akin to the dock, only optical. Yup, that means even more adaptors and new peripherals for no purpose other than to skimp on the ports available on our computers. :mad:
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Why not? Changing the iPod connectors every few generations works out pretty well for Apple. You can still use the same cables, but suddenly newer iPods are no longer compatible with the $300.00 Bose stereo dock, alarm clocks, or multiple other iPod accessories you bought. Sounds like a decent business plan to me, as long as they let sister companies know and get a cut of future profits.
 
Rampant.A.I. said:
Why not? Changing the iPod connectors every few generations works out pretty well for Apple. You can still use the same cables, but suddenly newer iPods are no longer compatible with the $300.00 Bose stereo dock, alarm clocks, or multiple other iPod accessories you bought. Sounds like a decent business plan to me, as long as they let sister companies know and get a cut of future profits.
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Yup, it's always a great business plan to short-change the consumer in the short run, but my argument is entirely on the end-user's side. Break-out boxes and more dongles and incompatibilites will only fly with the lowest common denominator consumer.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
it might be to the point we should just give up because Dmann still does not understand the meaning of LONG TERM INVESTMENT does he.

When the Xbox was first launch it was stated back then that MS knew going in that just on the Xbox it would take 8 years to just break even just on the Xbox and they stated that was with out a new consel launch that they knew they would be doing.
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I don't think that's the issue. I've no doubt Microsoft's approach was long term but I doubt it accounted for the failure rate and associated costs which will have pushed the profit point way back.

That said, I still think it will be profitable although much further down the line than first planned. Unfortunately pulling together figures is quite time consuming. Hoping to have something soon though.
 
Geez, talk about thread creep :rolleyes:

Another place where the booklet shape was seen before:

Plica folding concept phone and other dual display ideas

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Wonder if dual displays will be the next hot consumer fad? Especially if ASUS brings out their dual page book reader this Fall.
 
Already posted about Codex, the previously shown Microsoft Research project with dual folding display...

But I didn't know about Inkseine, which looks very much like the scrapbook idea show in the Courier. (You can download it from that link and use it on your current touch tablet or UMPC.)

Engadget found the connection: Courier's roots

Microsoft Research publishes a lot of their papers, btw. I found this page where you can select a research area, then click on the "Downloads" icon at upper right of the selection, and read.

Does Apple have the equivalent?
 
The way I'm looking at it. The more micrsosoft talks about their up & coming projects. The more will get from apple, because M.S. is good for not finishing anything they start. Apple will come along and make it actually happen & better. I mean, I read somewhere before that M.S. could have put the ipod out long before apple but was way to slow with it and apple beat em to the punch. :D
 
silentnite said:
The way I'm looking at it. The more micrsosoft talks about their up & coming projects. The more will get from apple, because M.S. is good for not finishing anything they start. Apple will come along and make it actually happen & better. I mean, I read somewhere before that M.S. could have put the ipod out long before apple but was way to slow with it and apple beat em to the punch. :D
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the more MS talks about their "upcoming" projects, and the more they *show* videos and pics, the more they show their hand prematurely. There are some big disadvantages to this.
 
*LTD* said:
the more MS talks about their "upcoming" projects, and the more they *show* videos and pics, the more they show their hand prematurely. There are some big disadvantages to this.
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At the same time is removes all right from Apple fansboys from claiming MS copies apple.

It gives tones of create to say others are coping microsoft.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
At the same time is removes all right from Apple fansboys from claiming MS copies apple.

It gives tones of create to say others are coping microsoft.
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From visual concept to reality - somehow MS has consistently fallen short of that crucial link. I could produce a video of a device which transports objects via clusters of nano portals - The innovative challenge, however, lies in the ability to bring the concept to reality. A dream, in and of itself, does not constitute innovation.
 
The difference between the booklet and a nano-portal transporter video is twofold:

1) MS has shown the individual working pieces before. See posts above.

2) This is software, not hardware. Unlike hardware, almost anything that can be put into a visualization, can be programmed. It's just a matter of time and money.
 
kdarling said:
Wonder if dual displays will be the next hot consumer fad? Especially if ASUS brings out their dual page book reader this Fall.
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I am looking forward to seamless folding oled screens. The dual displays thing seems kind of limited.
 
puffnstuff said:
I am looking forward to seamless folding oled screens. The dual displays thing seems kind of limited.
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Me too. I originally had them in my post, but then figured the required bend radius was too large to make a decent booklet.

That is, until I just saw this OLED bending demo on YouTube. Seems to work okay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2SCZvU8sGU

(Bends at 0:25 and 1:45)
 
silentnite said:
The way I'm looking at it. The more micrsosoft talks about their up & coming projects. The more will get from apple, because M.S. is good for not finishing anything they start. Apple will come along and make it actually happen & better. I mean, I read somewhere before that M.S. could have put the ipod out long before apple but was way to slow with it and apple beat em to the punch. :D
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the current CEO of Palm is the creator of the iPod. he saw a 1.8" hard drive at Toshiba one time. it was a failure since no one saw any use for it until he decided to make a PMP around it.

MP3 players date to before the ipod. back then MS was 99% software and didn't see a need to enter that market. and i think they aren't serious about the Zune either. the X-Box is their main hardware project now.
 
kdarling said:
Gizmodo has posted another Courier concept video:

How Microsoft sees people using the booklet

Fun to look at it. But man, I sure foresee that users would require some training to get the most use of something like this.
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I wonder if Apple is going to abandon the pen input side of OS X (Inkwell). Based on the other thread about the rumored tablet using iPhone OS, I am kinda worried that touching will become the predominant input, where is some cases pen input would be better.
 
kdarling said:
Gizmodo has posted another Courier concept video:

How Microsoft sees people using the booklet

Fun to look at it. But man, I sure foresee that users would require some training to get the most use of something like this.
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Yeah, I love the application of the device but a lot of those actions don't seem too intuitive to me. Still, very nice looking. Also liked that one of the pages open was Apple.com with a Shuffle ad. ;)
 
This device is meaningless if it doesn't do what Apple iPhone can do or what the kindle does, then it sucks.


MacRumors said:



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Gizmodo reveals some details about a top secret Microsoft project working to introduce a new booklet device with dual 7-inch multi-touch screens.
The concept video provided shows the device in use. It incorporates a stylus with handwriting recognition, swipe gestures, and multi-touch actions including pinch zoom.

All the visuals of the devices appear to be concept mockups rather than showing an actual device in action. While Gizmodo describes the device as "late prototype", Engadget claims it isn't near production.

Meanwhile, Apple has been rumored to be entering the tablet market as early as 2010.

Article Link: Microsoft's Prototype Multi-Touch Tablet/Booklet
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This device is going to be amazing, and YES it will have a virtual keyboard. There will be nothing that the Applet tablet has that this won't, plus the fact that it's a dual-screen which makes it so much for useful for reading and other applications.
 
1. its microsoft so its bound to fail
2. if its like anything microsoft (pc xbox) it will overheat
3. if its anything like windows it will get infected and blue screen of death and jsut general errors
4. how ultimately silly will you look holding a touchscreen book lol
 
XxEjGxX said:
1. its microsoft so its bound to fail
2. if its like anything microsoft (pc xbox) it will overheat
3. if its anything like windows it will get infected and blue screen of death and jsut general errors
4. how ultimately silly will you look holding a touchscreen book lol
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LOL. I love the sound of desperation. The Courier is going to change everything.
 
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