mcarnes
macrumors 68000
Agreed. Most Beatles songs are distinctly Paul's or distinctly John's (or George). Listen to the playboy Lennon interviews. "That's mine, that's Paul's, that one's mine", etc.
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Mills gets £24.3m from Sir Paul in divorce settlement
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Agreed. Most Beatles songs are distinctly Paul's or distinctly John's (or George). Listen to the playboy Lennon interviews. "That's mine, that's Paul's, that one's mine", etc.
Iscariot
macrumors 68030
There are plenty more quotes where those come from, and I think at this point they illustrate just how indefensible Ms. Mills' case is. If she even remotely reflected the kind of the activist she claims to be, she would have been more than satisfied with what was offered, and certainly wouldn't be needing multithousands for wine and hundreds of thousands for private jets and helicoptors.
Some of the activists I know live below the poverty line in order to devote the time and energy into their causes. As someone who is very active in the Canadian and US equivalents of the UK causes Ms. Mills claims to support, I am extremely disappointed in her hypocritical and flat-out greedy behaviour.
Markleshark
macrumors 603
I agree that shes a crazy money grabber, but it does feel a little like we're flogging a dead horse now.
My view is that while she's behaved absurdly at times, that doesn't deserve the hatred heaped upon her, especially when weighed up against the irrational deference shown to Paul McCartney... Sir Paul? Don't make me laugh.
There's a piece in today's Guardian that sums my views up pretty well, and I particularly like this quote:
"when a man calls a woman a whore, he usually means two things: that she enjoys sex too much, and she isn't doing it with him"
😀
Anyway, here you go. It's a bit long but deserves rereading, especially for those who feel free to use the word 'bitch' for someone they don't even know. Should give a few of us some pause for thought.
http://lifeandhealth.guardian.co.uk/women/story/0,,2266631,00.html
There's a piece in today's Guardian that sums my views up pretty well, and I particularly like this quote:
"when a man calls a woman a whore, he usually means two things: that she enjoys sex too much, and she isn't doing it with him"
😀
Anyway, here you go. It's a bit long but deserves rereading, especially for those who feel free to use the word 'bitch' for someone they don't even know. Should give a few of us some pause for thought.
http://lifeandhealth.guardian.co.uk/women/story/0,,2266631,00.html
Iscariot
macrumors 68030
The arrows at the end of the left-hand navigation make the centre column of text seem like a bulleted list. If it's driving me nuts, I can only imagine the effect it had on you.
Your Sun newspaper reminds me of our Sun, if it's to be judged by it's outrageous headlines.
This is what spoke to me the most, of the article. I didn't go into this believing any of the tabloids -- like you, I have no cable, no newspapers, no magazines -- but it's difficult to empathize with someone who continually makes the claims she does. I don't agree with 99% of the mud slung at her, but I also can't defend her claims or actions.
koobcamuk
macrumors 68040
I know her face is a little long, but that's not very nice. 😉
It's also just a derogatory term, you know.
I wouldn't ever have sex with her, and I don't care if she enjoys sex. In my mind, a woman is a whore if she sells her body (for sexual acts etc) for money.
Whereas Heather is a bitch.
And you have a chip on your shoulder I think - there's a bit of feminism coming through your posts 😉
I have no chip on my shoulder. And holding feminist views isn't a crime; in fact, if you know anything about feminism, it's part of an ongoing debate in society about affording dignity to all people, regardless of who or what they are.
Much of the public criticism leveled at Heather Mills has been of the most misogynistic and crude kind, and people who can't see that are blind to their own prejudices and double standards.
koobcamuk
macrumors 68040
Fair enough. I am in complete favour of equal things to people that work equally as hard etc etc ... don't get me wrong.
I agree that probably most men would call a woman a whore because of the two reasons you linked to, but I just wouldn't.
I don't like heather mills one bit. I don't like the whole celebrity thing going on at the moment either. I don't like much at the moment, I'll be honest.
TumbleDryer
macrumors 603
I don't think I'd like her much if I met her either... but I'm also careful to recognise just exactly how my views of her are shaped by elements of the media because I've never met her in person.
She sounds a bit loopy and self-obsessed at times, but that doesn't hurt anyone.
koobcamuk
macrumors 68040
koobcamuk
macrumors 68040
John.B
macrumors 601
Using the same standard, clearly there would also seem to be others on this thread who show quite the hated toward men. N.B.
If you are referring to me, you don't have the slightest clue what you are talking about.
Whereas you and I can get as personal as we like. 😱 😀
Still, Heather Mills, just on my brief view of her, would be well-advised to keep a low profile for a while. She should have hired Max Clifford and a good lawyer, and certainly not represented herself in court.
skunk
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bartelby
macrumors Core
I think that's the bit that gets me. She seems to me to be very arrogant and by her thinking she can beat experienced lawyers kind of proves it.
I believe it was reported that financial concerns played a part in her deciding to abandon Counsel and represent herself.
Coming to the end of almost 3 years of litigation myself, I can appreciate the difficult she had in making that decision.
koobcamuk
macrumors 68040
John.B
macrumors 601
Well you seem to have taken a stance of "all men deserve to get taken to the cleaners" where most other people here -- of both sexes -- had their fairness-meters completed pegged. Being of the opinion that her settlement was completely off the charts given the circumstances as we know them doesn't make anyone a misogynist, fergawdzsakes. Neither does the odd bit of humor.
Maybe this is somehow very personal to you?
::Lisa::
macrumors 6502a
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bloody hell only 35k, she don't think about all those kids in the world that get f-all!!! I understand that she wants her daugter to have a good life but jeez! money is not everything, we are skint but 'happy'
bloody hell only 35k, she don't think about all those kids in the world that get f-all!!! I understand that she wants her daugter to have a good life but jeez! money is not everything, we are skint but 'happy'
The woman is a calculating gold digger and the poor child probably only exists because her mother figured shed get a way better divorce settlement with a baby in tow.
What I'd really, really, like is for the UK and world media to blackball Heather Mills and refuse to cover any story she's involved in ever again, as that is the only thing that would really annoy her.
What I'd really, really, like is for the UK and world media to blackball Heather Mills and refuse to cover any story she's involved in ever again, as that is the only thing that would really annoy her.
I think it was on another Heather Mills thread but I do remember reading something to that effect.
PS. I'm working with a girl (OK, 32) who supported her out of work husband for some years, then they decided to divorce so now she gets to lose her house to pay him off.
He kindly settled for only £25K Uk pounds.
Oh. He also wanted the dog. I kid you not.