There's absolutely zero proof that Apple has ever done this. People just decide that Apple is incapable of running into supply chain issues and that therefore it must simply be to add hype. The truth is, most people don't want to wait around three months for a phone. Only people very loyal to Apple will do so. The rest will just get a different phone, or not upgrade, or get a different model - which is the last thing Apple wants.
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There's absolutely zero proof that Apple has ever done this. People just decide that Apple is incapable of running into supply chain issues and that therefore it must simply be to add hype. The truth is, most people don't want to wait around three months for a phone. Only people very loyal to Apple will do so. The rest will just get a different phone, or not upgrade, or get a different model - which is the last thing Apple wants.
Let's be real, people who have been using iPhones for years won't switch over to Android because they're pretty much stuck in the Apple Ecosystem.
This. This is a fantastic comment; and one that is always on my mind. I understood why the Macs almost depended on Intel's cycle to lapse, and then begin development of the new computer, but the yearly phone thing seems to be absurd.
Almost like Apple is in the middle of the herd without escape. How did the cellular industry fall in to this cycle? I don't need a yearly phone. If it breaks, I get it repaired / replaced. If I want an update, I arbitrarily update when I want. Without contracts, nothing is binding anyone to a timely (or untimely) schedule anymore.
I'd be perfectly happy with a new iPhone that was ready when it's ready. Pumping them out on a schedule is ridiculous. They could be condensed as follows, with all the individual model improvements rolled in to 1 collective update in a spaced-out manner.
- '07 (original)
- '09 (3G-series)
- '11 (4-series)
- '13 (5-series)
- '16 (7-series)
- '17 - second line of premium devices, like Pro / Mini
It will not be called the "iPhone 8"
I know all the media outlets have kind of just accepted that is the search term people are looking for, but people and the media are ignorant to do so and if in 2018 Apple releases an actual "iPhone 8" all this 2017 news about the device will cause confusion. It's irresponsible for the media to use this term for the new model of iPhone.
All the Media are just copying each other like its a good idea and it doesn't matter....
Well... It probably doesn't really matter, but it still annoys me that the media plays the SOE game instead of actually coming up with better ways to refer to this new model of phone. If anything, it's a 7S Pro. If Apple actually goes out of the norm and calls this 8, then I will be blown away surprised. Probably the only surprise Apple could announce this year. Macrumors should be ashamed because these guys know the trends.
I know all the media outlets have kind of just accepted that is the search term people are looking for, but people and the media are ignorant to do so and if in 2018 Apple releases an actual "iPhone 8" all this 2017 news about the device will cause confusion. It's irresponsible for the media to use this term for the new model of iPhone.
All the Media are just copying each other like its a good idea and it doesn't matter....
Well... It probably doesn't really matter, but it still annoys me that the media plays the SOE game instead of actually coming up with better ways to refer to this new model of phone. If anything, it's a 7S Pro. If Apple actually goes out of the norm and calls this 8, then I will be blown away surprised. Probably the only surprise Apple could announce this year. Macrumors should be ashamed because these guys know the trends.
Well we don't really know what the features will be, but the tiny bezels have been getting rave reviews - a phone with big old bezels won't be looked kindly on.
Unless the new model has a screen resolution that challenges the A11, there won't be any difference in SoC between 7S(+) and this new one.
its possible it's just a taller/wider "1080" resolution. Or it could go higher, but Apple's SoC shouldn't have any issues unless they used their own custom GPU and went backwards with performance.
In any case, there aren't many cases to be made for any difference in the SoC. Otherwise they would stamp a X on the end and give the A11 a GPU boost through extra core(s) and/or clock boost.
This idea that any bezel is a bad thing is ludicrous and all marketing. Plenty of people may like the aesthetic of no bezel, but in real world use it doesn't matter and the appearance hasn't been an issue for any previous iPhone. To think all of a sudden "awe man this has bezels" is going to deter regular iPhone users is crazy and falling for the trends.
I dunno man, I get the impression from reviews that it's going to do exactly that - bezels will start to seem old fashioned and undesirable. If Samsung's 7S competitor has edge to edge, and Apple's top end offering has edge to edge, suddenly the 7S without edge to edge looks naff.
Considering how well Apple does regardless of the constraints, this point is quite moot. People will wait for a quality product. I waited, so did millions of others for their 7 Plus's. I love my device, and I'll wait in the queue for the 8 (assuming it lives up to expectations).
New phone in limited supply is only going to sell as well as Apple can make them. For those that can't get one it will just frustrate them -- many to the point of forgoing the upgrade and waiting until next year. Those are called lost sales. When a customer comes waiving their $ the store wants to take it, not in a month, but right then and their because who knows if the customer will even have the $ in a month or have it earmarked for something else.
What people of your thought don't realize is not that Apple sells a lot of product but that it leaves a lot of unmade sales on the table because of their announcing product even when they know they don't have parts supply to mean even a fraction of demand.
As for discounting the 7, Apple doesn't need a new phone to do that. It can lower prices any time it likes.
Except you didn't simply state your opinion. You criticized my name and were extremely aggressive at arguing against mine.
What is your opinion on what they will call it?
That's ok, I don't even bother trying to get one until after they have been out for at least a month. I can wait.
Since you're not willing to answer my questions on how Apple would solve this immense ramp-up problem unique to their situation, or offer any solutions of your own, it sounds like you expect Apple to accumulate 3 or 4 months of inventory in warehouses before announcement so that every person who orders a phone will have it in their hands within a couple of days. Is that correct?
Or perhaps you believe that Apple can just snap their fingers and they can double or triple manufacturing infrastructure on a moment's notice when needed during ramp up, and then that additional massive manufacturing infrastructure needed just for ramp-up can simply go dormant for 8 months, with no adverse consequences, until the next release?
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Agreed. I normally upgrade my iPhone every year but I am happy with my 7+ and if it is going to be January or later before I can get an iPhone 8 / iPhone Pro / iPhone edition (or whatever they call the premiere iPhone) I may sit this one out.
Truth report!!! It's not that I'm stuck and couldn't change if I wanted to it's that it's a hell of a lot easier to stay so I stay. I can tell you this. If I weren't so healivy invested in the platform I wouldn't have stuck around waiting on new Mac Pros that aren't a joke. I'm willing to give them a calendar year to right the ship like they've said they plan to but if they don't deliver I'm out.
Yep. There's a whole lot of stuff Cook appears to be out of touch about. What's most annoying is his oozing arrogant attitude that comes off like he knows it all. Well...it's obvious he's Apples Steve Ballmer. Making tons of money while running the company in the ground.
Not long now... Someones feeling the strain up top...
First its a few months afterwards,,, then a few more next year, finally ending up "Its impossible to get an iPhone out on time, because the display is hard to do"
You can't mix 'up-to-date-tech' with Apple which has never seen the light of day before in this space, with enough devices to get out the window (it just doesn't work that way), any more then convenience vs security does.
You either gotta pull, or push, but *not * both
First its a few months afterwards,,, then a few more next year, finally ending up "Its impossible to get an iPhone out on time, because the display is hard to do"
You can't mix 'up-to-date-tech' with Apple which has never seen the light of day before in this space, with enough devices to get out the window (it just doesn't work that way), any more then convenience vs security does.
You either gotta pull, or push, but *not * both
Anyone else sick to death of the same "High Demand/Short Supply" song & dance
by Apple every year around this time? Yeah, I thought so ....
by Apple every year around this time? Yeah, I thought so ....
Please tell me or list companies that are "Pushing hardware" every single year in the cell phone industry? I would be interested in reading that. Hardware being rushed? How so? What hardware is being "Rushed" if you were referring to Apple? What has been abandoned? You have a lot of open ended remarks in your posts that don't explain much.
Second, you mentioned if Apple did a new iPhone every 18 months to two years, we would have better iPhones. Even if your theory was correct, you can't expect cell phones to have a groundbreaking features or technology that may not be ready for implementation. Cell phones take years of testing before the ready for development. Apple was likely working on the iPhone 7 when the iPhone 5s was released.
Tim Cook was quoted by the time a new product is released, Apple is already on development/working on a product two generations ahead of the current product. So technically, that would be a debunk your theory that Apple would be releasing better iPhones. It's just Apple is choosing to use certain technology versus what other manufacturers are releasing and we all know Apple is slower at releasing "Newer" features, but what the iPhone does, it does it well.
Same here. Same phone. Longest period I've kept using the same cellular phone.
I would have upgraded last year because that was my normal 2-year. I knew 2017 was the 10-year for iPhone so that played the biggest role in me holding out. But the removal of the headphone jack and the weird changes to the home button helped confirm my decision to wait and see how the anniversary lineup turns out.
Sadly, my 6+ isn't faring so well. Coincidently the headphone jack on my phone stopped working shortly after the launch of the iPhone 7. So I've been living the "wireless future" along with all the people who upgraded. (Spoiler alert - it's caused some annoyances in my day-to-day that make me miss the working jack).
Performance-wise my 6+ is fast. It just has a lot of weird glitches. Apps crash and data doesn't refresh. I'm starting to wonder if my wireless chip (both Cellular and Wifi) is going bad. I never get more than 3 bars of signal and my signal disappears and is shaky in places other people on the same network don't have issues or where I never had problems in the past.
You wouldn't know anything was wrong looking at my phone. the exterior is in excellent condition for resell. It's the internals that I am losing confidence in. I don't plan to sell the phone. I will use it as a iPod Plus or mini iPad mini - however you want to look at it.
All the internal problems could also be from the battery going bad. So maybe paying to change that out will fix the other issues. But I am worried about what else could be wrong considering the jack went out the way it did.
Anyway... point of all this is that while I'm excited and feel a need to move on past this phone. It still works pretty great most of the time and I'm willing to deal with its issues until a phone I actually want comes along. The Galaxy S8 doesn't entice me to switch to Android and my confidence is weaning about the new iPhones being the type of upgrade I want to live with for the next 2-3 years.