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Another update from crapple. More bugs!! Let all the fans say, "Baaaaaa baaaaaaa baaaaaaa!!!!"

IOS needs a Snow Leopard rls. Apps are vastly superior to anything Android/Windows has to offer, they deserve an adequate operating system.

Have you ever used a flagship android device for a few weeks? To get the same apps on ios that I can get on android, I would have to jailbreak an iphone.

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When I first got my iPhone 6 (w/ iOS 8 of course) my battery life seemed a lot worse then it was on my iPhone 5s running iOS 8. After running diagnostics and some troubleshooting (resetting all settings, erasing all content and settings then setting up as new, erasing all content and settings and restoring from iCloud) I now have pretty good battery life. Nothing was wrong with my iPhone 6, iOS 8 wasn't hogging my battery, it was a lot of corrupt applications that have been installed for a long time (a few since iOS 7). Now I am getting (at 24%) 6 Hours and 12 Minutes of Usage and 22 Hours and 6 Minutes of Standby. Usage contained streaming music from soundcloud (Cellular Only, Two bars), messaging, face time, etc..

Long story short.. I love my battery life after looking into it and not pointing fingers.

So apple ios now has a battery usage page in the settings? They copied that from android. Android had a battery usage settings page first. The only apple does is copy jailbreak tweaks and android features.
 
Another update from crapple. More bugs!! Let all the fans say, "Baaaaaa baaaaaaa baaaaaaa!!!!"



Have you ever used a flagship android device for a few weeks? To get the same apps on ios that I can get on android, I would have to jailbreak an iphone.

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So apple ios now has a battery usage page in the settings? They copied that from android. Android had a battery usage settings page first. The only apple does is copy jailbreak tweaks and android features.

LOL but the thing is..Android apps look crappy. A LOT of them really do, compared to iOS apps. I have been a long time Android user (5 years), and after I switched to iOS completely (both phone and tablet), I am mind blown how the apps on iOS look so much higher quality. Heck, even icons look so much more polished. Android devices can have much nicer home screens because it's much more customizable than iOS, but MANY android apps are ugly POS. Just take a look at both Play Store, and App Store Top Charts. I'm sure most people will agree with me. It's not that iOS apps are not functional though. They are functional enough most of the times, and look amazing too.
 
LOL but the thing is..Android apps look crappy. A LOT of them really do, compared to iOS apps. I have been a long time Android user (5 years), and after I switched to iOS completely (both phone and tablet), I am mind blown how the apps on iOS look so much higher quality. Heck, even icons look so much more polished. Android devices can have much nicer home screens because it's much more customizable than iOS, but MANY android apps are ugly POS. Just take a look at both Play Store, and App Store Top Charts. I'm sure most people will agree with me. It's not that iOS apps are not functional though. They are functional enough most of the times, and look amazing too.

Have you used lollipop? Lollipop is very polished. I have a nexus 5.
 
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Another update from crapple. More bugs!! Let all the fans say, "Baaaaaa baaaaaaa baaaaaaa!!!!"



Have you ever used a flagship android device for a few weeks? To get the same apps on ios that I can get on android, I would have to jailbreak an iphone.

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So apple ios now has a battery usage page in the settings? They copied that from android. Android had a battery usage settings page first. The only apple does is copy jailbreak tweaks and android features.

Two things: both companies appear to copy each other. The most notable being when Android's design changed from being blackberry-like to iPhone-like in 2007.

Apple has never copied anything so huge, so blatantly from Android.

Secondly, Android is open-source. Meaning anyone is free to take what they like. When companies use the OS no one moans. When Amazon forked Android for the kindle, no one moaned. When Apple introduces a feature that Android already has? People hate on Apple.
 
By the time they get it right version 9 will be out.

Please Apple move to 2 year upgrade cycle. Release new versions of iOS and OSX in alternate years so we only have to suffer one new OS a year.

Annual iOS updates may help you sell a few more iPhones but they seriously piss off many of your existing user base.

That's very true. We do not need a yearly cycle, if the quality is going to be his bad. And as you said apart from markerting, there is reason they have to push these unfinished updates out every 12 months.
 
So need to fix s crashing bug still, never thought iOS 8 would crash the odd occasion like android, slightly surprised, when you have alot off apps opens, it crashes rea bad, and doesn't respond, I sent a ticket about iTunes match stopping after 3 songs, still no response, a tad let down
 
Since scott forstall's departure I'm not excited for Apple software update at all. Bring back Scott :(

Agreed, and the reason is that he was pretty much like Jobs. A taskmaster, a compete dick. But he demanded perfection in how his OS worked and ran.

I don't see Federghi being anywhere near as ruthless with his team. Some of the bugs that get through and have comtinued to go untouched despite numerous updates to iOS 8 is appalling.
 
Apple: I'm not sure why this has been so difficult, but for the love of God, please fix iOS 8's wifi disconnection issue that has been plaguing me and many other people I know iPhone 6's. The issue is where a secure wifi connection (typically at home or at work) will unexpectedly drop and convert over to network data. Once this occurs, the phone never automatically reconnect back to the trusted wifi router the way it did in past versions of iOS, leading to large amounts of monthly data sometimes being unknowingly used.

This has been my biggest gripe with iOS 8/iP6, and judging from the amount of Apple forum posts regarding the issue, I'm certainly not alone here. Not sure why this permanent fix has been so elusive? Personally, I'm concerned that it's a flawed hardware issue with a large amount of iPhone 6s.
 
If any Apple employee is reading this:
Please fix Safari videos bug whereas it is impossible to close video by tapping "Done".Need to kill safari app. Soooooo annoying.
 
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Hope 8.1.3 actually fixes bugs, would be interesting to see the bugfix report on this update but,
as per previous update, I'll be waiting on the feedback, then deciding whether to update or not.
My phone is happy on 8.1.1 (nice balance)
Preparing for the 'Groundhog Day Post Update' threads :rolleyes:
 
On my iPhone 6, there are still issues with external keyboards. Some times the Messages app freezes, and I need to exit it completely in order to get it working again. When I do a spotlight search, the keyboard often doesn't show up.

I have so many of these tiny little bugs. Death by a thousand cuts, in terms of annoyances.. Hopefully a handful of these get fixed with 8.1.3.
 
Since there is performance improvements; I will upgrade to 8.1.3 after it is all tested out by the consumers. I currently on my iPhone 8.1.1! Never going do 8.2 at all!

It has junk in it like for the Watch and other stuff which will dramatically slow the iOS down but Apple will not mention it to anyone.

I learn how to read Apple like a book!

Wow, finally, a SMART apple user! You know, if it wasn't for Apples engineered obsolescence I would still actually like apple as a corporation. IOS 6 shot my iPhone 4 to hell. Mavericks turned my iMac into a slow boggled down windows PC from the 90's. On a 4gb iMac, after just a few hours of lite internet use my free ram goes below 100mb and my whole system lags like f%#&ing bloody hell! I'm going to down grade once I back everything up. If you want your Mac to "just work" then keep it on the original OS it came shipped with. That is the OS it was DESIGNED to run on. Unless you're on iOS 8, in which case, apple has screwed.

Don't give me that crap about "Oh well a new os requires more ram and more specs blah blah blah!" Wrong! Apple purposefully cripples older devices with a new update on purpose. They did it with the 3g, 3gs, 4, and 4s. Ios 9 will break the iPhone 5, iOS 10 will break the IP 5s, and iOS 10 will break the IP 6. If you don't believe me just watch when the next major iOS version gets released.
 
By the time they get it right version 9 will be out.

Please Apple move to 2 year upgrade cycle. Release new versions of iOS and OSX in alternate years so we only have to suffer one new OS a year.

Annual iOS updates may help you sell a few more iPhones but they seriously piss off many of your existing user base.

And by the time iOS 9 is released it will render your IP 6/6+ practically useless. Android keeps looking better and better as time goes on and apple just gets worse and worse as time goes on. I ditched my old ip4 for a nexus 5 because I'm not going to deal with apples engineered obsolescence.

I mean, it's not because I don't have the money to upgrade every year or two, I just don't think it's necessary to buy a new device when the one you already have works perfectly fine. If apple wouldn't cripple their devices then maybe I would be interested in getting another IP but apple shot that chance to hell after crippling my IP 4 AND my iMac. At least with the iMac I can down grade to a better os.

It's OK to not support older devices but at least don't put out a final upgrade that's going to cripple the device that I paid lots of money for. That's pretty f#*%ed up for apple to do.
 
iPad mini

iPad mini Safari is useless. Kills me to have to jailbreak to downgrade to iOS 7. Mercury browser helps somewhat. Why won't Apple let us go back to iOS 7??
 
Wow, finally, a SMART apple user! You know, if it wasn't for Apples engineered obsolescence I would still actually like apple as a corporation. IOS 6 shot my iPhone 4 to hell. Mavericks turned my iMac into a slow boggled down windows PC from the 90's. On a 4gb iMac, after just a few hours of lite internet use my free ram goes below 100mb and my whole system lags like f%#&ing bloody hell! I'm going to down grade once I back everything up. If you want your Mac to "just work" then keep it on the original OS it came shipped with. That is the OS it was DESIGNED to run on. Unless you're on iOS 8, in which case, apple has screwed.

Don't give me that crap about "Oh well a new os requires more ram and more specs blah blah blah!" Wrong! Apple purposefully cripples older devices with a new update on purpose. They did it with the 3g, 3gs, 4, and 4s. Ios 9 will break the iPhone 5, iOS 10 will break the IP 5s, and iOS 10 will break the IP 6. If you don't believe me just watch when the next major iOS version gets released.

I have a mid-2012 cMBP and OS X Yosemite runs great...it didn't ship with Yosemite either.

I have an iPhone 5 and a 5s and multiple 4s in my house. They all run find on the newest version of iOS 8. Apple tries its best to provide updates with as many features as possible included. And new software DOES require more hardware requirements than older software in most cases. A lot more going on in the background means less RAM and less processing power are bound to bottleneck performance.

And how is the device crippled? Does it still work? Oh...you mean safari didn't open in .1 milliseconds like it did when the device was brand new...gotcha.
 
I'll second that. Try a hard reboot and turning off apps that do background refresh. I have a few friends who complained about battery life and I looked at the settings on their phones and they pretty much turned on notifications and background refresh for every app that asks...

Le sigh...

Turning all of the unnecessary apps off and WOW, who knew, battery life extended.

Sometimes, the battery is just failing.
Sometimes, it's the apps.
Sometimes its the OS.

I'm assuming people try a few things before they think it's the OS. My iPhone 6 Plus has been amazing with battery life thus far.

I agree wholeheartedly. My 6 plus battery will last close to 24 hours most of the time. The rest of the time, the battery will last about 16-18 hours.
 
Hope 8.1.3 actually fixes bugs, would be interesting to see the bugfix report on this update but,
as per previous update, I'll be waiting on the feedback, then deciding whether to update or not.
My phone is happy on 8.1.1 (nice balance)
Preparing for the 'Groundhog Day Post Update' threads :rolleyes:

So you base your decision on the assumption that the bug fix update 8.1.2 added more new bugs than it fixed existing bugs?

Or you base your decision on the fact that you can live with all the bugs in 8.1.1 just fine and even the remote possibility that there is one new bug in 8.1.2 that might bother you more than all the bugs in 8.1.1 that are fixed by 8.1.2?

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And by the time iOS 9 is released it will render your IP 6/6+ practically useless. Android keeps looking better and better as time goes on and apple just gets worse and worse as time goes on. I ditched my old ip4 for a nexus 5 because I'm not going to deal with apples engineered obsolescence.

I mean, it's not because I don't have the money to upgrade every year or two, I just don't think it's necessary to buy a new device when the one you already have works perfectly fine. If apple wouldn't cripple their devices then maybe I would be interested in getting another IP but apple shot that chance to hell after crippling my IP 4 AND my iMac. At least with the iMac I can down grade to a better os.

It's OK to not support older devices but at least don't put out a final upgrade that's going to cripple the device that I paid lots of money for. That's pretty f#*%ed up for apple to do.

Did Apple in any way force you to upgrade the OS this year?
 
Did Apple in any way force you to upgrade the OS this year?
Can't stand this mentality. Sometimes there are features that are needed that aren't available in the previous OS. Sometimes developers force us to upgrade because some of our most used apps only support the latest OS. There are a lot of reasons why people upgrade. Apple doesn't force anyone to do anything, but they are notorious for planned obsolesce and purposely include new features that aren't available in older OS's ... or drop hardware entirely.
 
Can't stand this mentality. Sometimes there are features that are needed that aren't available in the previous OS. Sometimes developers force us to upgrade because some of our most used apps only support the latest OS. There are a lot of reasons why people upgrade.

I don't understand, on the one hand you praise Android for providing stability by being slow in providing updates and then you criticise Apple for enticing people with new features to upgrade. So not providing updates is better because then you don't give users any rope to hang themselves?

Apple doesn't force anyone to do anything, but they are notorious for planned obsolesce and purposely include new features that aren't available in older OS's ... or drop hardware entirely.

So your problem is essentially that Apple doesn't offer an a-la-carte deal of which features you want in your OS and only offers a package deal called 'new iOS version'?

"They purposefully include new features in new OS versions.", I really have to say that is really an evil, evil thing to do.
 
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If it fixes pulling up control center when keyboard is up....... I'll be happy.

Confirmed.

If any Apple employee is reading this:
Please fix Safari videos bug whereas it is impossible to close video by tapping "Done".Need to kill safari app. Soooooo annoying.

It appears fixed, but I've only ever found this to be intermittent on my iPhone so time will tell
 
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I don't understand, on the one hand you praise Android for providing stability by being slow in providing updates and then you criticise Apple for enticing people with new features to upgrade. So not providing updates is better because then you don't give users any rope to hang themselves?
What the hell are you talking about? I never mentioned Android in that post, nor do I use Android.

I was referring to your comment about being forced to upgrade. We aren't forced, but in order to get all the possible features we need the latest hardware, not just the latest software. They leave out features on older devices with the same OS, not just on newer OS versions. Siri and voice navigation come to mind. Apple didn't provide it on older devices saying they can't when third party apps made that ability fully functional.

I don't mind updating my device and I'm not one to always complain about free updates. It's the planned obsolescence that is the main thing that bothers me. They love to do this with OS X as well with fully capable hardware. They just deem things obsolete when they feel like it.
 
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