But the taxes go to maintain existing roads and infrastructure and build new roads too, or am I missing something?
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But the taxes go to maintain existing roads and infrastructure and build new roads too, or am I missing something?
Why cast them aside? In fact, if you're against abortion, I'm surprised you're also against homosexuals. Because who has fewer abortions than homosexuals? You'd think you'd make natural allies. Here's a whole group of people guaranteed to never have an abortion, and you're just casting them aside! I'll never understand it.
If the 15-year-old is in love with another girl, I don't understand why it's my job (or worse, the government's job) to stop it. Since when am I/the government an arbitrator of others' love?
I was hoping it wouldn't come to this....
A fetus isn't a child. In fact, if anything, it's a parasite. It thrives off the mother, stealing nutrients from her body for the good of itself and nothing else. Besides, why is this fetus so much better than an ant on the kitchen floor you'd squish without a moment's hesitation?
The point is that Apple has paid more than their fair share for those roads, be it paid before or after construction.
The thing about political debate is that it is never productive. You have your opinions, someone else will have theirs. Life goes on.
Grow Up
Unfortunately both camps are doing this. If you think one is running a higher level campaign than the other, then you are not paying attention, or you are hopelessly biased. Politics has been a dirty, slimy, disgusting activity since the birth of our nation. It will only change when the majority of the people actually demand something better. My hopes are not high.
Unfortunately both camps are doing this. If you think one is running a higher level campaign than the other, then you are not paying attention, or you are hopelessly biased. Politics has been a dirty, slimy, disgusting activity since the birth of our nation. It will only change when the majority of the people actually demand something better. My hopes are not high.
Hold on! You say:
You want teenagers to know enough to not have unwanted pregnancies;
But you are not willing to allow teaching them in school to avoid this.
If I read you correctly, you are saying every teen needs to learn this from their parents... and if they have parents that don't teach them this... you have nothing to offer except "it's not okay."
Since roads build great businesses, I'm going to kick back and wait for my big CEO checks to arrive. After all, they didn't build it, we did.
Why not? Commit to each other and stay together.
Oh, you want to compel others to give special treatment to the pair. Why? It's not like they're going to reproduce together. See my prior post explaining "marriage"; you seem confused about the purpose of the institution.
I sympathize with those kids. I have the utmost disrespect for those parents. The problem is that the governments education is messed up. If they want to teach the kids the right way, then by all means I'll pay for it. The problem is they teach it the wrong way. They simply scratch the surface. The government should not be promoting strictly safe sex. It should be promoting safe sex with someone you are wholly committed to and would raise a child with. Because, as we all have witnessed to some degree at some time or another, safe sex is not 100%
Notice how I did not say save sex for marriage. I personally believe sex should be saved for marriage. But there were responsible and irresponsible ways to have sex. I won't push my beliefs on to everyone else. I simply believe it should be done responsibly.
Wrong.
a heterosexual man can marry the love of his life
a homosexual man cannot
Sounds like ignorance to me.
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Corporations are people. There, that ought to take care of the flaming bleeding heart liberals which make up most of this audience. 
I'm done arguing with people who think Government - and more of it - is the answer to every problem. You have dug your own graves, and those of your children and grandchildren. I pity you.
I'm done arguing with people who think Government - and more of it - is the answer to every problem. You have dug your own graves, and those of your children and grandchildren. I pity you.
I can sympathize with the arguments made by anti-choicers, but regardless of how firmly they believe whatever they believe, it doesn't change the FACT that when abortion was illegal, it happened anyway, and a lot of people died seeking back-alley abortions.
You cannot stop abortions from happening, even if you desperately want to. The question becomes, does a woman have a right to do something to her own body without government interference. It's a recognized right of privacy that is protected by the Constitution.
Now, there may be some merit to how it happens, who is notified, etc... (I don't think so, others might), but whether a fetus is a baby or not is an irrelevant question. Even if a fetus was a grandmother, it doesn't change the fact that the mother can abort it. Even if abortion were illegal again.
Where did I express opposition? Where did I advocate government being the arbitrator of love?
I just don't want the girl getting into a predictable situation where she, at 15, is faced with the choice of murdering her own child.
I just don't want to compel society to treat a couple as if they can reproduce when it is utterly obvious it's impossible for them to do so.
As a former fetus, I take offense at the notion. After my conception, there was no point where you could claim I changed from "parasite" to human. How insulting...
As opposed to the people who are willing to dismantle government, even the parts that work, on blind faith that wealthy people having even more money is going to somehow help? I was raised in a country that had a very good public education system. We had state of the art roads, bridges, airports, space programs, radar systems, and military. All of those things were the result of the best and brightest who happened to work for the US government.
If you strangle the government more than the GOP already has, all you are doing is dooming your children and grandchildren.
You must have gone to Reverend Wright's church. Ha, sorry, I couldn't resist. I'm an equal opportunity SOB.
I agree. We need a change in marketing of the corruption; a new figurehead. Obamney 2012!
There is no abortion clause in the constitution. In fact, there is no privacy clause. There is a common law right of privacy, and there are constitutional measures protecting privacy, but there is no "right to privacy" explicitly given in the constitution. The right to privacy has been protected by the Supreme Court, but Roe v. Wade is one of the worst examples of constitutional jurisprudence (in my opinion and in the opinions of many constitutional scholars, including quite a few who think abortions should be legal), and should be overturned, even if most states keep abortions legal.
But none of that was my point. Abortion debates usually end up with inane assertions that a fetus is no different than a parasite (it is different; parasites don't have fathers) or that women who have an abortion are guilty of murder or infanticide (there is something morally different, though I can't quite describe it, when someone can look into the eyes of the life they're destroying).
I wish you luck in educating this person, but he like many others are of the mistaken belief that once roads and other infrastructure construction is complete it is somehow magically paid off. Completely forgetting about the public bonds and taxes that were passed beforehand to finance them. Apple, and all Californians continue to pay for the construction of finished highways, surface roads, public schools, etc. decades after they are finished. A portion of Job's and Apple's taxes surely went toward the repayment of hwy 280's (and others) construction, enhancements and maintenance. We are not paying it forward with our taxes we are paying it back.