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Of course you have your money on the Yankee's. Why, because your team wasn't good enough:p Dude I'll take that bet any day:D

no offense....but the national league is not that good, compared to american league teams.... the phillies struggled with the rockies, the dodgers gave them a run for their money... and i didn't see them sweep none of the teams....(neither am I saying that the yankees did the same) but you have to use your baseball knowledge and see that the yankees have a WAY better line-up than your phillies. ;)
 
I have no doubt that that's true. I didn't say he didn't have admirers. I meant that he had a reputation for rubbing some people the wrong way. It's been pretty well-documented that a lot of people thought he was a selfish jerk in his Yankee days. That doesn't necessarily mean he's a bad guy, just that a lot of people thought he was.

There's a lot of interesting history around Billy Martin and Reggie Jackson that people who know, or at least have heard Reggie's side here, that has not made it to press.

It would be interesting to hear people who have talked to legend Billy Martin and his side of the story on his relationship with Jackson. A good investigative reporter should do a book on them and the A's and Yankees. The Bay Area has long had love hate relationships with both these guys.

Rumor here, among several people in town who know Reggie very well, believe that the A's almost got Reggie back (while he was still in his prime) but certain things happened concerning Billy Martin. Some believe Martin did a smear campaign on Reggie. Most I have talked to here believe this. A former Oakland coach who also lives here seems to have an opinion on this so it's not just a theory I believe. Depending on who you talk to, they were friends, enemies, or a combination of both. :)

Of course, Martin didn't have the best reputation, either. It's pretty much town gossip that has been where I am for years, but I am less than 1,000 ft. away from Reggie as I type this post. Even if I personally talked to Reggie on what the public outside of his town think, I would still get his take on the issues. I don't intend on bothering him or the numerous summer home celebs who like their anonimity.

Mostly I can't stand the press when I hear stories about something or somebody I know. Practically everyone in town knows a celeb or a spouse or kid, and it's funny what the press says about them. A lot of the stuff is just plain hurtful. Don't you know somebody who was trashed in the press, whether it be a baseball player or the cop who got falsely accused of corruption? There is another side to Reggie Jackson, which will paint a more balanced story, which will never get out.

I am not trying to be a super fan of Reggie or anything, it's just a good friend of mine is one of his closer friends and it's just surreal to hear the myth of how "bad" Reggie Jackson was or is. I certainly don't hear as many bad things about Billy Martin. I believe Martin was usually in the wrong in the all too famous battles between Martin and Jackson, Martin and Steinbrenner, or Martin vs. anybody.
 
the WS isnt even worth arguing about. the Phillies are sooo much better than the Yankees. It's gonna be like the Harlem Globetrotters (Phils) vs. that green team (Yanks). Ryan Howard's gonna get an RBI for every pitch thrown to him. A-Rod's gonna strike out repeatedly and start crying in the dugout next to CC who couldn't make it through 2/3 of the first inning.
 
the WS isnt even worth arguing about. the Phillies are sooo much better than the Yankees. It's gonna be like the Harlem Globetrotters (Phils) vs. that green team (Yanks). Ryan Howard's gonna get an RBI for every pitch thrown to him. A-Rod's gonna strike out repeatedly and start crying in the dugout next to CC who couldn't make it through 2/3 of the first inning.

Move on troll.
 
the WS isnt even worth arguing about. the Phillies are sooo much better than the Yankees. It's gonna be like the Harlem Globetrotters (Phils) vs. that green team (Yanks). Ryan Howard's gonna get an RBI for every pitch thrown to him. A-Rod's gonna strike out repeatedly and start crying in the dugout next to CC who couldn't make it through 2/3 of the first inning.

I wouldn't say the Phillies are way better than the Yankees. The Yankees, even if they lose the WS, had a great season.

Let's say the Phillies sweep, then I would believe that most would say it's because the Phillies played well and deserved it, not because they are so much better than the Yankees.

It's possible that the Yankees can self destruct like some people say the Dodgers did recently, but nobody is going to say that the Yankees lack talent. Even if the Yankees are overrated, they still don't suck. I won't celebrate until the Phillies win four, but until then I will be nervous.
 
Take that robo!, another reason why i put my cards with the yankees....:p
Dude
You need to find a team and stick by them:), first it was the Dodgers:p now the Yankee's:confused: I bet you picked the Rays last year:p

Being born and raised in Philly it's MY birth right and I live and die by my teams...;):cool:

Peace
 
Dude
You need to find a team and stick by them:), first it was the Dodgers:p now the Yankee's:confused: I bet you picked the Rays last year:p

Being born and raised in Philly it's MY birth right and I live and die by my teams...;):cool:

Peace

Same here....You cannot be born anywhere near Philly and NOT be a fan....it is in our blood...

Even when the Eagles get crushed by the......


wait for it...


Raiders.

And to stay on topic...PHILLIES in 6...Lee will lay down the law in Game 1...

Hickman
 
Same here....You cannot be born anywhere near Philly and NOT be a fan....it is in our blood...

Even when the Eagles get crushed by the......


wait for it...


Raiders.

And to stay on topic...PHILLIES in 6...Lee will lay down the law in Game 1...

Hickman

This is why we need so many sports. When the Eagles are falling short and the Sixers are irrelevant (as they almost always have been for the last 25 years), the Phillies come through. Someday the Eagles will come through when the Phillies are down.

The Dodgers haven't won a title in 21 years, but four Laker championships since then helps.
 
This is why we need so many sports. When the Eagles are falling short and the Sixers are irrelevant (as they almost always have been for the last 25 years), the Phillies come through. Someday the Eagles will come through when the Phillies are down.

The Dodgers haven't won a title in 21 years, but four Laker championships since then helps.

It was great when Golden State finally won after, years ago now, having the attention towards other sports, win or lose actually, in the SF Bay Area.

Now what really needs to be done is have the San Jose Sharks win it for our region. Actually, I would like to see them have a dysnasty, not some potential dynasty the Bay Area sports press likes to hype them as possibly becoming.

The Raiders, 49ers, and A's have had their really dominant periods with win-loss coaching record with the Raider's Madden, the Niner's five Super Bowls, and the A's with their streaks of greatness. The Giants, while not winning the WS, have had some teams get there, and in other years make the playoffs. The Sacramento Kings have had their great moments, too.

Well anyway, go Sharks. I think they can potentially become a contender and seen as a legitimate threat as the above teams are, or have been. I don't think all the sports in the Bay Area combined equals NYY's 26 championships though. I may have to see professional soccor teams, women's teams, and other pro sports to see though. :)

Looking at it that way really puts the Yankees in perspective.
 
Dude
You need to find a team and stick by them:), first it was the Dodgers:p now the Yankee's:confused: I bet you picked the Rays last year:p

Being born and raised in Philly it's MY birth right and I live and die by my teams...;):cool:

Peace

I was born in LA, that makes me a dodger fan.......but i go to the University of California, Irvine which is located in Orange County, CA, which is like 15 minutes from Anaheim Stadium.

So i choose both teams....

the angels are my favorite AL team

the dodgers are my favorite NL team

The reason why I go with the yankees, doesn't mean i like the yankees.....c'mon they eliminated my team........

All i know from my MLB knowledge.....is that the yankees are better than the phillies.....

and no i didn't even know the rays.....

weren't they also known as the tampa bay devil rays.... :p

This is why we need so many sports. When the Eagles are falling short and the Sixers are irrelevant (as they almost always have been for the last 25 years), the Phillies come through. Someday the Eagles will come through when the Phillies are down.

The Dodgers haven't won a title in 21 years, but four Laker championships since then helps.

LAKERS OPENER TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:):):):D:D:D

WE WILL REPEAT THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSSSSSS!!!:D

KOBE!!!!!!

GO TO THE NBA 2009-2010 Season Discussion Thread......if u want to discuss basketball....lol
 
So i choose both teams....

the angels are my favorite AL team

the dodgers are my favorite NL team
You can't root for both, you have to pick one. Angels or Dodgers. That is like being a Yankee and Met fan or a Yankee and Red Sox fan, you can't be a fan of both. Pick one team and root hard for it.
 
You can't root for both, you have to pick one. Angels or Dodgers. That is like being a Yankee and Met fan or a Yankee and Red Sox fan, you can't be a fan of both. Pick one team and root hard for it.

Why are you telling him that? I know plenty of sports fans who pick more than one team and follow them. If not the Giants, I would like to see the A's win. If neither, I go for the west coast team. During the earthquake world series, there was this hat on sale in the Bay Area which had the logos of both teams on it.
 
Why are you telling him that? I know plenty of sports fans who pick more than one team and follow them. If not the Giants, I would like to see the A's win. If neither, I go for the west coast team. During the earthquake world series, there was this hat on sale in the Bay Area which had the logos of both teams on it.
I thought the A's and Giants were rivals? Even though they are not in the same league I thought there was a hatred for each other.
 
I thought the A's and Giants were rivals? Even though they are not in the same league I thought there was a hatred for each other.

The real rival are the Dodgers, even back in the days when they were both back east. The A's certainly did not make Giants fans happy in the earthquake series. Some fans like me were glad that it wasn't the Giants losing against a Yankees or Red Sox.

Like a lot of fans, I go strictly by geography. County/local region, then state, then west coast vs. the rest of the country.

But in football, if the Niners don't do it, then there is the Raiders, Chargers, or the old LA Rams back in the day. If that didn't happen, then west coast, but even after that I would have to side with my main team (Niners) NFC conference and root for the NFC team over the AFC team when the Super Bowl does not include a west coast team.

Now if I ever move to the east coast, I will pick up a primary baseball, basketball, and football team to root for, and after that, stay regional with east coast teams. It's quite a simple equation though boring and predictable.

I always hold out for the time I will have a day off and happen to be around a west coast sports venue so I could catch a game. By liking a team, or being somewhat familiar with them, I can at least get into them. I have very little knowledge of the finer details of what is going on in the midwest or east coast with teams' records, injuries, trades, or playoff chances until a season is near its end. Yes, this year is two east coast teams, and one being the Yankees, it's a no-brainer not really caring so I could go with the underdog. Go Phillies.
 
The real rival are the Dodgers, even back in the days when they were both back east. The A's certainly did not make Giants fans happy in the earthquake series. Some fans like me were glad that it wasn't the Giants losing against a Yankees or Red Sox.

Like a lot of fans, I go strictly by geography. County/local region, then state, then west coast vs. the rest of the country.

But in football, if the Niners don't do it, then there is the Raiders, Chargers, or the old LA Rams back in the day. If that didn't happen, then west coast, but even after that I would have to side with my main team (Niners) NFC conference and root for the NFC team over the AFC team when the Super Bowl does not include a west coast team.

Now if I ever move to the east coast, I will pick up a primary baseball, basketball, and football team to root for, and after that, stay regional with east coast teams. It's quite a simple equation though boring and predictable.
I could move to Alaska and I would still be a Yankees fan, I would watch local teams but my main rooting interest would be the Yankees. Same with football, I will be a Giants fan and would always root again the Cowboys no matter who they play.
 
I could move to Alaska and I would still be a Yankees fan, I would watch local teams but my main rooting interest would be the Yankees. Same with football, I will be a Giants fan and would always root again the Cowboys no matter who they play.

Being a longtime 49ers fan, I certainly won't forget '92 and '93, so I probably would not be a Dallas fan unless I somehow ended up in or near Dallas.

I used to hate Dallas back when I was in the time wasting habit of hating teams. As much as I hated Dallas, and the Niners inability to contain Smith, I was totally in awe of his ability to run with the ball. Nobody, except for maybe Sanders, had the grace of Smith during his Cowboys days. It was all worth the heartache though since the Niners came back in '94, stopped the Cowboys from a possible three-peat, and gave poor old Steve Young a ring. That was the Niner's greatest moment outside of the '81 season with Joe Montana and the Niner's first SB championship.

As much as I didn't like the Cowboys being called "America's Team" and compared to the Yankees (baseball's America's Team), the Cowboys had a great 20 year run, great years in the '90s, and some good performances more recently. They had the best lineup of names with Landry, Dorsett, Smith, Staubach, Aikman, Jimmy Johnson, et. al. along with 8 Super Bowl appearances, 5 wins, and an obscene number of division titles. And when they won, it wasn't by just getting by, or by any luck since Dallas more often than not destroyed their competition. They built a legacy, or mythology, or a combination of both, which is totally unmatched in that sport. Their uniform colors are extremely popular among non-football fans. And their cheerleaders don't hurt their visibility either.

The Niners, with Montana and Young, got close to the Dallas legacy racking up 5 Super Bowls, 19 seasons in a row with pretty good chances and/or a deep lineup worthy of the big show, almost as many division titles as the Cowboys, and their own list of great names. But they still came up short and were not, historically through the sport, the same as Dallas.

To break all the team records Dallas holds, it would take someone like the Niners or Steelers winning a couple more SBs, hiring a Landry type of coach, and tie on another ten division titles and hall of famers.

Since the early to mid '60s, the Cowboys, love or hate them, have been on average the most reliable team in football. As much as I hate to say it, I think Romo and company can make it to at least an NFC crown a couple of times before they get too old. And God forbid, a 6th ring with 9 overall SB appearances.

But America's baseball team, the Yankees, are probably not going to face a hard World Series if things go according to how we have seen them perform. Unlike the Cowboys, who seem to have fans everywhere who will root for them no matter what, I think many people on the fence who could turn into Yankees fans, won't find an easy time rooting for a team that just picked up their 40th American League pennant. This may be a chance for new fans or people with no really strong preference, to fall in love with the Phillies.

Any curse that the Phillies had of being an original, old school team that has not performed up to expectations over the decades compared to other old teams (Phillies were the last old school team to win 1 WS and last to win 2 WS), can put every criticism to rest by adding a back to back to their list of achievements while also taking out a talented Yankees roster. This is what I think Philly needs to do to get respect with the likes of the Cardinals, Red Sox, Reds, and Dodgers as a solid team people could point to as a postseason team.
 
the WS isnt even worth arguing about. the Phillies are sooo much better than the Yankees. It's gonna be like the Harlem Globetrotters (Phils) vs. that green team (Yanks). Ryan Howard's gonna get an RBI for every pitch thrown to him. A-Rod's gonna strike out repeatedly and start crying in the dugout next to CC who couldn't make it through 2/3 of the first inning.

Ok first of lay off the Crack than come back and retype that statement seriously

you must be a Mets or a Redsox fan im guessing Redsoxs.
 
Big mistake, Pedro will get rocked that game. Did he forget game 7 of the 03 ALCS.

He also pitched nine perfect innings for the Expos against the Padres. Which game should we base our predictions on?

Well considering he was 15 years younger with the Expos I would say his Red Sox appearance in 03 is more accurate.
You seem to have selective amnesia. Have you forgotten the 2004 postseason? I certainly wouldn't blame you...
Here are his lines from the 2004 ALCS (a.k.a. Yankee Choke Job) and the 2004 WS:
ALCS Game 2: L (3-1), 6IP, 3ER, 4H, 7K, 4BB
ALCS Game 5: ND (Sox won 5-4), 6IP, 4ER, 7H, 6SO, 5BB
I'm not including his one inning of relief in game 7
WS Game 3: W (4-1) 7IP, 0ER, 3H, 6SO, 2BB. He also had a walk as a batter.
This is why we need so many sports. When the Eagles are falling short and the Sixers are irrelevant (as they almost always have been for the last 25 years), the Phillies come through. Someday the Eagles will come through when the Phillies are down.

The Dodgers haven't won a title in 21 years, but four Laker championships since then helps.
I guess Cleveland needs a hockey team then eh?
As much as I hate to say it, I think Romo and company can make it to at least an NFC crown a couple of times before they get too old. And God forbid, a 6th ring with 9 overall SB appearances.
I can only hope.
you must be a Mets or a Redsox fan im guessing Redsoxs.

Are you kidding me? We at least stay grounded in reality. CC got through more than 2/3IP when he sucked in the 07 ALCS


Celtics win!
The Lakers need a new announcer at the Staples Center, he announced Magic like he was some space-filling bench warmer. Your team is getting championship rings, and this guy is a living legend, show some damn excitement!
 
You can't root for both, you have to pick one. Angels or Dodgers. That is like being a Yankee and Met fan or a Yankee and Red Sox fan, you can't be a fan of both. Pick one team and root hard for it.

Why are you telling him that? I know plenty of sports fans who pick more than one team and follow them. If not the Giants, I would like to see the A's win. If neither, I go for the west coast team. During the earthquake world series, there was this hat on sale in the Bay Area which had the logos of both teams on it.

Too bad Macnut, lol, i choose both........ People can do that........:p

but i'm not sure about being a red sox fan and a yankees fan together!?

I mean i like the angels and dodgers, but they're from the same area....

New York is like 100 miles away from Boston.....
 
Too bad Macnut, lol, i choose both........ People can do that........:p

but i'm not sure about being a red sox fan and a yankees fan together!?

I mean i like the angels and dodgers, but they're from the same area....

New York is like 100 miles away from Boston.....

Actually it's about 200. I'm in CT smack in the middle of the rivalry where you have to pick a side. Those that are fans that cheer for both are highly ridiculed.
 
Actually it's about 200. I'm in CT smack in the middle of the rivalry where you have to pick a side. Those that are fans that cheer for both are highly ridiculed.

With that history with the curse and all, I can see why. Nothing on the left coast has that type of rivalry in baseball.
 
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