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well great game tonight i think the preasure goes back to Philly they did not show up tonight at all besides that Rbi they had early on I was really surprised that Philly did not hit at all tonight.
 
Plain and simple the Yankees are pedro's Daddy :D

That may be true but I hope his arm falls off before he pitches his next game. That guy gives me stomachaches. He is the greatest starting pitcher I've ever seen in my lifetime.

I also liked when smiled when leaving the mound as the fans booed him. No matter how much I hate Pedro, a small part of me likes me him. He and the Yanks have had a lot of battles.
 
I agree he is a great charchter i never really like him for what he did to zimmerman but i think he could be a great realiver though who knows maybe the yanks can get him next year :) make him that 6-7 possible 8th inning guy.
 
I agree he is a great charchter i never really like him for what he did to zimmerman but i think he could be a great realiver though who knows maybe the yanks can get him next year :) make him that 6-7 possible 8th inning guy.

Interesting idea about him being a reliever. As for Zimmer there has been some back and forth about that. Pedro recently said that Zimmer said something about his mother but Zimmer denies that. At the time I was heated but, looking back on it now, I look at it as part of the great memories I had of those fierce Yankees/Red Sox matchups during that period.


I wouldn't want him to become a Yankee though. It would be really weird and I'd like to remember him for what he is: The greatest Yankee enemy of all time.
 
haha 2 runs is all that dem yanks can muster? thats not good news..... see u back in philly losers!!!!
 
I wouldn't want him to become a Yankee though. It would be really weird and I'd like to remember him for what he is: The greatest Yankee enemy of all time.

Can't ever see Pedro in a Yankee uniform. That just seems against the universal law of baseball. Though I wouldn't be too shocked. Lets hope it never happens.
 
^Um if I'm not mistaken we won the game :rolleyes:

See you back in Philly Troll Bag

ohhhh durrrdurrkaadurrr da yankees won da game???? rearry???? no **** retard. we always lose game 2, i expected this ****. but now theres 3 in philly, have fun tryina stay alive
 
What? Random?

While there is no law of the universe that says you have to have a strong, winning team with league best hitting and/or pitching and/or coaching, I would never use the term random. Why aren't the Twins in the WS? Is that random? How about a team that has a record of 90 wins vs. a team with 95 or 99 wins? I would tend to go with the team with 99 wins over the one with 90 over a long period of time, season after season.

The Twins aren't in the World Series because they didn't play better than the Yankees two weeks ago and they didn't beat the Red Sox or Angels last week. That's the only reason. In 1987 the Twins won a mere 85 regular season games and won the World Series. This year, they won 87 and didn't. The main problem is that "over a long period of time" part. The baseball playoffs aren't played over a long period of time. They're played in three short series of games instead. It's too small a sample size for the strengths of the better regular-season team to show up in wins and losses. Even the best teams of all-time had stretches during the season when they lost three of five or four of seven. In the long regular season, those are blips in an otherwise very successful 162 games. In the playoffs, it's the end of the line.

Even if you consider the long run where, say, two teams go 16-16 against each other in playoff games, that doesn't mean they each won the same number of series.


But stretch that number out to infinity, and then you will have a value of 50 for heads and a value of 50 for tails. It won't even be 51-49, or 49-51, rounded out, over the course near infinity. At infinity, it will be literally 50-50.

So, you're agreeing with me that in any given season, the team with the best regular-season record still has about a 1-in-8 chance to win the World Series? You're right that "random" was the wrong word. The long term probability of any one playoff team would stay the same.


Certain things have happened in baseball, and will continue to happen season after season, but over the very long haul, let's say 200 years of the sport, and more so in 300 years in the sport, the WS winner will more likely be the one with the better record and/or pitching and/or hitting and/or coaching, or a combination of those attributes.

That could be. When the results match up with that assertion 200 years from now, I'll tip my hat to you! :) Until then, the evidence says that win-loss record doesn't determine playoff results.
 
ohhhh durrrdurrkaadurrr da yankees won da game???? rearry???? no **** retard. we always lose game 2, i expected this ****. but now theres 3 in philly, have fun tryina stay alive

I hope that the change to the Philly venue will be good for them. While I don't expect three in a row, I hope Philly gets at least two games there. If Philly gets three, then great, but Philly would really have to make sure the Yankees don't hit. A-Rod is bound to start hitting home runs, Godzilla may hit another one, and Jeter and Damon have yet to come to form.

Anyway it goes, it will be exciting. I say hit the sleeping giant while there's still time, otherwise we will see 7-1, 8-1 type scores (blowouts) not in favor of the Phillies.

It's a good thing at this point it's going to Philly, and not to Yankees stadium.

The Philly fans will be off the hook and I think even the Yankees will get thrown off their rhythm. I can't wait.
 
Phillies pitching is not good the next few games so give the Yankees the edge, besides Lee who do they really have, Pedro was ok but Burnett was better. C.C. wasn't bad game 1 Lee was better. Roles could be reversed next time around. Hamels has been bad this post season, give the edge to Pettitte game 3.
 
So, anybody notice the erm, inconsistent strike zone last night?
Burnett was getting that outside curve called ALL night. And let's not forget that Rivera gets the outside strike called every time...
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That could be. When the results match up with that assertion 200 years from now, I'll tip my hat to you! :) Until then, the evidence says that win-loss record doesn't determine playoff results.

I wish both of us could be like vampires and live hundreds of years, so we could continue this numbers/odds vs. performance debate. :)

There are times when there are events that completely defy the odds.

For instance, the city I live in of less than 2000 residents is mostly a retirement and summer home area. The percentage of young families with kids is very, very small. In the small school district, there are 11 school buses. I rode on one of them with a guy named "Pat".

So many years later, when I was at university in London, I am in a basement will fellow American exchange students from several colleges, not anywhere near Cal Poly where I went to, or the small northern California town I grew up in. One USC student tells me that they know of my small, rather insignificant town and they know only one person there. They know Pat from the same school bus I rode every day in northern California. And here we are in London. What are the odds? But the story gets even weirder, as there is this other Cal Poly person, from southern California, who knows Pat, too, but who doesn't know me or the USC student. The two question each other to corroborate their facts to see if it's the same Pat from the same town of 2,000 people. Fact by fact, they describe Pat to a T, his height, hair color, personality, etc.

So I run into two people from two different American schools who don't know each other, who like me are exchange students in London, who both happen to know the same person, who was the kid I rode on the bus with a decade earlier.

While studying John Nash in grad school, I brought this up to the professor who was a Nash enthusiast, and we couldn't come up with just how remote that was. It suggested that statistics are not the main factor in how the universe operates and there could be some "soft" factors in statistics we don't understand, such as fate.

My wife and I got the opportunity to watch John Nash speak at a local college, and he talked a little about certain subjective odds in statistics. Some say it borders on voodoo but it's interesting nonetheless. Some people at the college, a military graduate school that has a strong emphasis on counter-intelligence/national security, started asking him questions about these "soft" concepts in statistics. Statistics itself is not considered a hard maths, per se, and when there are people out there thinking that events can be altered by thoughts, attitudes, or body language, then it starts to enter into some little known realms.

I could see how some baseball players, famous for being superstitious, partake in strange rituals which may have nothing to do with hitting, pitching, and fielding.
 
So, anybody notice the erm, inconsistent strike zone last night?
Burnett was getting that outside curve called ALL night. And let's not forget that Rivera gets the outside strike called every time...
Guess you didn't see the tight zone Wednesday.
 
Guess you didn't see the tight zone Wednesday.

What's your point? If the zone is consistently tight, that's fine. What's not fine is when one pitcher is getting outside calls that the other is not. it's no wonder that Burnett won...once he had it figured that he was going to get a strike call on a pitch that was way off the strike zone, and almost impossible for the lefties to drive, he hammered it...

Oh, and did I mention Rivera? The guy never has to throw the ball over the plate.
See the following:

Towards the end of the game:
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Or in the eighth inning, same pitch (#2 in this at-bat), same place, not even close to a strike:
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And in case you think I'm biased towards the Phillies, I don't have a horse in this race...Mariners fan here.
 
So, anybody notice the erm, inconsistent strike zone last night?
Burnett was getting that outside curve called ALL night. And let's not forget that Rivera gets the outside strike called every time...

This is why there should be a laser strike zone. Along with instant replay for any close calls.
 
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