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Before he opted out the Yankees were going to offer him an extension. The contract would go through 2010 when the original deal ran out. It would include Texas' share of 21 million. Then the Yankees were going to kick in another 7 years on top of that.

Sounds like a lot of "perhaps"es and intends and maybes.

What I see is that in a best case scenario that we don't even know would have happened, Arod got $275 when he could have possibly raked in $289.

And this is after refusing to sit down with them and exploring the market.

Still sounds pretty good to me.
 
Sounds like a lot of "perhaps"es and intends and maybes.

What I see is that in a best case scenario that we don't even know would have happened, Arod got $275 when he could have possibly raked in $289.

And this is after refusing to sit down with them and exploring the market.

Still sounds pretty good to me.
His image took a hit tho, that is what he screwed up on. If he agreed to meet with the Yankees up front this would be a non issue.
 
I'm not sure how I'm feeling about A-Rod being back....

He is going to be friggin destroyed by the fans and media all next season. Even more so if he doesn't manage to break out of his postseason slump.
 
I'm not sure how I'm feeling about A-Rod being back....

He is going to be friggin destroyed by the fans and media all next season. Even more so if he doesn't manage to break out of his postseason slump.
If A-Rod throws Boras under the bus he will be fine. He needs to apologize for being a douche about the World Series. The fact that A-Rod went to the Yankees will mean a lot.
 
Arod got $275 when he could have possibly raked in $289.

Here's a quote from this ESPN article:
"There are a few cynics who say, 'Well, he really couldn't get this there,' " Steinbrenner said. "Trust me, he would have gotten probably more. He is making a sacrifice to be a Yankee, there's no question. ... He showed what was really in his heart and what he really wanted."
 
Here's a quote from this ESPN article:

There's a certain level of disconnect, not unlike buying a car when you negotiate down from a price rather than negotiating up from what the dealer pays for it.

$300 million, $350 million, $275 million -- who knows.

What we do know is that he signed the most lucrative contract in baseball history, breaking his own previous record.

What he might have received is perhaps interesting to discuss but without a report of an actual offer he turned down, it's just so much speculation.

Bottom line is that before this deal is done, it's likely that it'll be worth very close to $300 million.

I didn't see anyone offer that.

If you did, please let me know where I can read about it.
 
Oh well. I still think the Yankees are better off without him in the long run. I forget who said it (zioxide?) but I agree that with Rodriguez signed the Yankees aren't going to win the WS for as long as he's there. Hopefully it's the last "hit" of the crack that has been the free agent market for the Yankees for so long.
 
I thought he was getting $252 over 10 for the old deal.

Now he seems to be getting $275 over 10.

So he extends the life of the contract and makes $2.3 million more per year plus huge incentives.

I wish I could make that kind of mistake.

I keep hearing people say that opting out was a mistake by Rodriguez. How so? He increased his leverage by becoming a free agent right after arguably the best season of his career and maybe the best a player has had in many years. If he plays the last three years of his old contract, he risks losing future contracts due to injury. He'll maintain his status as baseball's highest-paid player for at least several more years and be making huge money until he's in his early 40s, well after most players stop being productive. The Yankees will recoup even more of it if he challenges the all-time home run record, something that has never happened in a media market as huge as New York. I suppose it's possible that a Yankees contract extension could have yielded more money, but that's a big hypothetical.

If you think about it, since baseball contracts are guaranteed, what Rodriguez has basically done is increase his future earnings by about $200 million. It's a no-brainer.


Oh well. I still think the Yankees are better off without him in the long run. I forget who said it (zioxide?) but I agree that with Rodriguez signed the Yankees aren't going to win the WS for as long as he's there. Hopefully it's the last "hit" of the crack that has been the free agent market for the Yankees for so long.

Know who also didn't hit well in the postseason? Ted Williams and Willie Mays. Alex Rodriguez is basically the closest modern equivalent of a can't-miss HOFer. To claim that having him on your team will prevent a World Series title is bizarre to say the least.
 
A-Rod will have great post seasons in the future, he is too good not too. The Yankees post season problems are not just A-Rod but the whole team in general. Without pitching it's not going to matter what A-Rod does. In the long run both needed each other. The Yankees needed a big right handed bat, and A-Rod needed the Yankees resources.
 
Which means to me that you don't know if he got any other offers.

Sure and the moon might be made of cheese and you might have offed JFK.

If you want to deal in naked speculation, have at it.

I prefer the facts, or at least confirmed innuendo.

Like this NYT story which might indicate that A-Rod's strategy was a little more planned than one might think.

NYT said:
Two days of talks at a local hotel, at which Boras was not present but was occasionally consulted by the Rodriguez camp by telephone, culminated in Rodriguez’s signing a contract mere hours before the deadline. The deal was worth about $1.3 million — not far from what the Mariners had been offering all along. Boras had advised not to accept such a deal.
 
A-Rod will have great post seasons in the future, he is too good not too. The Yankees post season problems are not just A-Rod but the whole team in general. Without pitching it's not going to matter what A-Rod does. In the long run both needed each other. The Yankees needed a big right handed bat, and A-Rod needed the Yankees resources.

Right now the Yankees need a starting rotation,with a number one ace,more than anything...

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Yankees Pull Back Lowell Offer?

According to Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald, the Yankees have pulled their offer to Mike Lowell off the table since they're close to signing Alex Rodriguez. The last indication was that Lowell had a four-year offer from the Yanks in the neighborhood of $50-55MM. Reportedly that offer was made with the idea of Lowell moving to first base. If that was true, why would an A-Rod signing change things? The offer was made with an A-Rod signing in mind.

None of the other suitors for Lowell are admitting anything right now. The Phillies seem a logical fit but Pat Gillick is denying it. The Brewers may also enter the market for a third baseman.



http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1045308#articleFull
 
Hughes and Joba/Kennedy for Santana.

That's absurd. Totally not worth it.
Thats not gonna happen either. Maybe 1 but not all 3.

Plus I don't think the Twins will trade him until summer. They will need someone to attract people to their new park. I heard on the radio that they are not happy in Minnesota about trading Santana. They are going to drop Hunter to try to sign Santana. What good will it do them to loose their star players and a new park opening soon.
 
NEW YORK -- Warren Buffett advised Alex Rodriguez to approach the New York Yankees and go around agent Scott Boras, The Wall Street Journal reported Saturday.

The newspaper cited a person familiar with the matter, whom it did not identify.

"A-Rod really loves being a Yankee," Buffett was quoted as saying. He wouldn't comment on the substance of any discussions with the player.

The two became friends several years ago.

Rodriguez, on Boras' advise, opted out of the final three seasons of his record $252 million, 10-year contract on Oct. 28. The Yankees had said many times that if he opted out, they wouldn't negotiate because they would lose $21.3 million from Texas for the final three seasons that was agreed to at the time of the 2004 trade, money to offset the $72 million New York owed from 2008-10.

Upset with developments after he opted out, Rodriguez contacted Buffett, and the investor told him to approach the Yankees without his agent, the Journal said.

After speaking with the investor, Rodriguez contacted a managing director at Goldman Sachs that he knew, John Mallory, who then got in touch with Gerald Cardinale, a Goldman Sachs managing director who has worked with the Yankees and their YES Network.

With the assistance of the two Goldman executives, Rodriguez and the Yankees negotiated a $275 million, 10-year contract that is in the process of being finalized.
Is Boras loosing his hold on his clients.
Kenny Rogers is representing himself as a free agent, the Detroit Tigers confirmed Saturday.

The move seems to be a sign that the left-handed pitcher is closer to returning to Detroit and not letting agent Scott Boras shop his services to the highest bidder.

"I still hope to be in a Tiger uniform in 2008," Rogers wrote in an e-mail to The Associated Press earlier this week before reports surfaced that he fired agent Boras.

The Tigers have been busy since the season ended, exercising the option on Ivan Rodriguez's contract to keep him behind the plate, trading for shortstop Edgar Renteria and outfielder Jacque Jones and re-signing closer Todd Jones.

Detroit wanted to include bringing back Rogers in the flurry of deals, but Boras informed the ballclub that he and Rogers were going to explore other options.

That conflicted statements Rogers made throughout the season about wanting to pitch for the Tigers, if the 43-year-old starter chose not to retire.
 
That's absurd. Totally not worth it.

you're kidding, right?

2 pitching prospects who may/may not develop in to great pitchers for a 28-year old 2 time Cy Young winner with a career 3.22 ERA and 1.09 WHIP? That's a no brainer.
 
you're kidding, right?

2 pitching prospects who may/may not develop in to great pitchers for a 28-year old 2 time Cy Young winner with a career 3.22 ERA and 1.09 WHIP? That's a no brainer.
The Yankees may give Hughes and Cabrera but they are not giving up Chamberlin.
 
Sure and the moon might be made of cheese and you might have offed JFK.

If you want to deal in naked speculation, have at it.

I prefer the facts, or at least confirmed innuendo

Likewise, hence my response to your suggestion that he hadn't received any other offers.
 
So Pay-Rod won the MVP.. big surprise.:rolleyes:

1. Rodriguez, NYY: 382
2. Ordonez, DET: 258
3. Guerrero, LAA: 203
4. Ortiz, BOS: 177
5. Lowell, BOS: 126
 
Lowell Signs With Red Sox

UPDATE: ESPN reports that the deal is for $37.5MM, so $12.5MM per year. Lowell took more than $10MM less to stay with Boston.

UPDATE: Rob Bradford says the Red Sox and Lowell have agreed to the parameters of a three-year deal worth between $12-13MM annually. The Sox had set a deadline today for Lowell to decide on their offer, and he took them up on it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3118926
 
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