MobileMe to iCloud Transition Gives You 25GB Storage Until June 30th, 2012

[jaw04005]

Transitioned from MobileMe to iCloud yesterday. I cancelled my MobileMe subscription this morning via Apple's chat page (warning they cancel your iDisk immediately so get what you need to get).

Should get a refund for $60 or so. It didn't affect my "free" 20GB of storage either.

 

[MacNewsFix]

Ireland probably worse. We still don even have an iBookStore let alone the chance of iTunes Cloud service anytime before 2015.

It does feel like were getting the rough end of the stick this side of the Atlantic.

If it is any consolation, we're only getting Spotify now.

Agreed that it would be nice if Apple could roll out new services simultaneously across the globe.

 

[afs_nj]

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I still can't beleive iWeb support is going. Apple sold me on a mac because of the ease of iWeb and now they're taking it away. I don't see why. What's next GarageBand?

iWeb can still be used, of course, for creating web sites, and will still function under Lion. Do you have a cable, Tv or internet service that provides space for web hosting? Probably. Just point iWeb to their servers.

 

[spazzcat]

The one thing I haven't found with Dropbox is the ability to do limited Sharing of files like in iDisk. In iDisk, you can share a file, for a certain period of time, and it creates an HTML address you can share with anybody you want. I haven't found anything close in dropbox except for manually moving the files to a public folder, but it's not really the same thing.

You can share files, but it seems only through the app on iPhone/iPad...

 

[djrod]

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A 3rd party App with iCloud + filesystem and there it is an iDisk replacement

iCloud doesn't really work like that.

Imagine GoodReader storing "Documents" in iCloud just like iWork does or is this Documents in the cloud only an iWork thing?

 

[afs_nj]

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Other than dropbox is there any decent solution that offers iDisk storage file storage and ability to host your websites (iWeb/freeway pro published), and share your photo collections cross platform via HTML interface with slideshows etc. (mobileme gallery)..

I have yet to find one solution for all, that will take care of this for me...

I don't mind spending the money, MobileMe's services are genuinely a real loss for some of us, and even though we have till June 2012 - I've started looking for a reliable / elegant service to replace it fully and haven't found anything as good yet.

As a UK mobileme user, i definitely feel that we are losing out in a big way here....

With no itunes in the cloud announced for the uk yet it could be a case of sitting with 25GB of space but not a lot to sync to it!!

Ireland probably worse. We still don even have an iBookStore let alone the chance of iTunes Cloud service anytime before 2015.



It does feel like were getting the rough end of the stick this side of the Atlantic.

SugarSync?

 

[tivoboy]

bout right

This is about what I figured when icloud was announced. I did figure the pricing would be a BIT lower than has been reported, more like 25$ for 25GB, not 25$ for 10GB. This too might change. but I expected MM users would get something for the remaining year - AS THEY SHOULD since a user got 20GB in what they have paid for already.

 

[TraceyS/FL]

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Imagine GoodReader storing "Documents" in iCloud just like iWork does or is this Documents in the cloud only an iWork thing?

They can store it there apparently.... But it is sandboxed and only they can access it, so you can't use it to move files between apps. Which sucks.

 

[TraceyS/FL]

well, that does not explain why a web based service should not run on a functioning computer that can run a standard web browser. the icloud service is not hardware dependent as far as I understand.

Exactly..... Why is there a hardware requirement on a browser service?

This is about what I figured when icloud was announced. I did figure the pricing would be a BIT lower than has been reported, more like 25$ for 25GB, not 25$ for 10GB. This too might change. but I expected MM users would get something for the remaining year - AS THEY SHOULD since a user got 20GB in what they have paid for already.

I wonder what family pack sub accounts get? I only have 5gb and it stinks when trying to do more than mail. Getting some extra would be nice....

 

[sennekuyl]

The loss of iDisk sucks big time.

Not too stoked with Apple, I've always wanted to upgrade to Apples new OS as they come out but Lion looks so drab and the features don't excite me what so ever.
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Guess I'll have to start using Drop Box.

I really don't get why people are panning Lion. $30 and you get a version-ed filesystem that is easy to use. Should have been out ages ago. Microsoft got 3/4 there and stopped. Seriously, $30 to have users manage their own version? Heaven.

 

[*LTD*]

I really don't get why people are panning Lion.

The market isn't. The reviews of Lion are pretty glowing.

Around here, though, it's just your typical geek contingent on MacRumors that bellyaches about everything.

They did the same thing with SL.

Once upon a time they said Apple was doomed in the recession if they didn't slash prices. Once upon a time they said Apple was missing out because they didn't offer a headless Mac you could open up and futz around with. Once upon a time they said clone-makers like Psystar would destroy the Mac market if Apple didn't license OS X., etc.

Don't buy into their whining.

 

[robm001]

You'll be happier with dropbox anyway.

Seriously, Dropbox is nicer! I use both but if I had to give up one it would be iDisk in a heart beat!

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So there is no iDisk equivalent in iCloud? That really sucks. I use mine for random file transfers and was essentially the one convenience I felt justified paying for. Guess I have to jump on the dropbox bandwagon

 

[ct2k7]

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Imagine GoodReader storing "Documents" in iCloud just like iWork does or is this Documents in the cloud only an iWork thing?

Yes and no - you need to read the documentation to fully understand what the storage is. Unfortunately, I can't but once I can..... then I will. (NDA)

 

[naveah]

Expired MobileMe account

My subscription to MobileMe expired about one year ago. With the launch of iCloud, I know that Apple has stated that expired MobileMe accounts will be, in essence, resurrected. With the beta release, I have been able to gain access to iCloud.com through my expired account. However, I cannot access the Mail or Calendar apps. (The Find My iPhone and Contacts apps both work fine.) My question was does anyone know if Apple will only reestablish the Find My iPhone and Contacts features for expired accounts, or will Mail and Calendar also be reestablished in the future -- possible when iCloud is officially launched?

 

[Anaemik]

I don't understand that. In Dropbox I can control-click on a file, make a public link and share it with anyone, Dropbox user or not.

Do you have some form of upgraded account? I have a basic 2GB account and this option is not available to me.

 

[bretm]

I'm curious to see how the loss of iDisk will affect me because I use it a lot. I know dropbox is out there, but I've been using iDisk as long as it's been available, and I didn't want to bother changing over to DB since iDisk has always worked just fine for me.

I don't sync all my photos and music, etc. I just sync files I need for work like Word files, .pdfs and .html files.

My understanding is that iCloud will move/sync files between my machines without the online storage, but I'm not sure how I am supposed to tell it which files to sync.

Dropbox does the same thing for multiple users that iDisk did for one user. In iDisk, you could have a virtual iDisk (folder really) on your desktop that always stayed the same as the server iDisk. With DropBox, it's the same concept, except deeper. You have the folder on your system, but you can invite other dropbox users to be part of a single folder/project. We use it at work all the time. I start a folder for a project within my dropbox. I invite team members to be part of that folder. Now, we're all on board and if I need to upload a file, I just place it in that folder on my system, and it appears in the folder on their system.

 

[donlphi]

The only way you can test it is if you are a developer for Mac and iOS. Sadly, I'm only iOS, so no love for me - yet.

 

[krischik]

the recipient is required to have a Dropbox account.

That would be the deal breaker for me. I need a service which does not force the recipient to have an account.

So it is official: dropbox is NOT a replacement for iDisk.

of everyone viewing everyone else's photos,

Which is precisely what I DONT want. I only want a select choice of Family and Friends so see my photos.

Picasa and Google+ gives me that and that is probably what I migrate to. Only the Picasa-Uploader is a pain in the arse when compared to the iPhoto -> iGallery upload.

For Apple this is worse case scenario: I downgrade my Mobile Me account and move everything (but iDisk) over to Google. For iDisk I still have to see which service I will use (I need proper privacy, backup and download for non members — any suggestions?)

 

[MotleyPete]

I have moved all my stuff (websites photos etc.) off MobileMe & only want cloud to keep my email.

Is it possible to do that and remain on Snow Leopard?

There are software and hardware reasons why I cannot move to Lion yet

 

[mrklaw]

how different are the 'document storage' and 'photostream' compared to idisk?

eg is document storage now limited only to apps that support icloud sync, or can I use it to back up my own documents like I would with idisk?

If I want to store my photos online (I do and I'm still looking for the right place), can I use that 20GB for that? I understand that photostream is a temporary storage while all my devices sync my photos but what about storing other photos I want on my ios devices that I haven't just taken?

Surely Apple must have some plan, otherwise why would they offer additional storage plans

 

[mrklaw]

Actually, I don't like the idea of my apps writing documents/saving directly to icloud. Too much fragmentation and chance of things slipping through the net. I'd much prefer a dropbox model where apps save to a local folder which the OS then backs up to the cloud for me. That then supports older applications that haven't been updated to use icloud, and lets me put other files in there that I want to be backed up.

 

[mrklaw]

How iCloud's Documents & Data feature works

Apple outlined publically in general terms what Documents & Data does: it propagates changes made to a file on one device across every other. Similar to Photo Stream, creating a new Keynote presentation on your Mac will result in a magical multiplying of the document and an immediate background delivery of the new document on your iPad, on your iPhone or iPod touch, and within the iWorks web app so you can access it remotely from any browser.

So like dropbox. My wife saves a word document upstairs and within a few seconds I get a growl notification that my version has updated too.

There's no need to manually save the document to something like iDisk, or to look for where it might be stored in the file system, and no need to perform any manual sync between devices. It just happens. When you edit that presentation on your iPhone, all the changes you make similarly appear in every other instance of that file across your devices, again without needing any sort of thinking or involvement on your behalf.

what 'manually' saving? What thinking? Saving document to, I don't know, the documents folder is pretty straightforward, and you know where everything is stored, no matter what creates it. Sync that.

The concept is deceptively simple, but it involves quite a bit of thoughtful engineering on Apple's behalf. There needs to be support built into both the desktop and mobile operating system, as well as a web interface for the cloud-based storage. Third parties also have to incorporate support for iCloud's Documents & Data in their apps. Apple has demonstrated how to do with with its iWork apps, the first to incorporate support for the new feature.

Rather than just throwing up a way to copy around files automatically, Apple took an carefully considered approach that borrows from its experience in curating the iOS and Mac App Stores. This isn't just a network-synced iDisk. Instead, each app that opts in to the iCloud Documents & Data feature is accorded a secure storage space of its own, just as iOS apps each live in their own secure sandbox, inaccessible from other apps.

oh good, so I can't easily open files among different apps, everything lives in its own little world. And woe betide me if I have any non icloud-enabled app (who won't)? So while I can 'not think' about my lovely icloud documents being carefully synced across my devices, but not accessible to other apps that I might like to be, I have to think extra hard about which important documents I created in non-icloud apps, and somehow arrange for them to be synced/backed up separately. Oh and I'd better upgrade all of my devices to ios5 or I won't see any of this.


(not shooting the messenger, just slightly frustrated at Apple's odd approach to this)

 

[daveathall]

I think I fell lucky, my MobileMe subscription was due to expire on June 18th, Apple contacted me to see if I wanted to extend it, I didn't because of the uncertainty about its future, a couple of days later my subscription was extended for a year free of charge. I wonder how many customers that don't frequent boards like this, extended their subscription unaware that MobileMe was in its death throes at the time.

 

[jennyp]

Do you have some form of upgraded account? I have a basic 2GB account and this option is not available to me.

No, I have the free 2GB account. You just control-click on any file in the 'Public' folder inside your Dropbox folder and select Dropbox > Copy Public Link. This copies to the clipboard a link to your file, which you can use to share the file with anyone.

One thing: at the time of writing, the control-click isn't working on Lion until they get some bugs ironed out with a new Dropbox release, but it works in Snow Leopard, and it looks like the new Lion version won't be long coming.

 

[hagar]

What I don't get with iCloud: docs are now linked with the apps they are created with. So, my pages documents are "in" the Pages app. Great, but a rather simplistic view of the world.

I have projects, and organize my files according to those projects. A project has Pages files, excels, images, …

If I understand correctly, I cannot keep those together anymore with the new iCloud? Unless there is some tagging system, this is quite bad for everybody but novice users.