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Oh crap... And down goes the stock. It rallied yesterday because of the idea of a cheap notebook and if these #'s are right about a $200 price INCREASE the stock is going to dive, bad. Combine that with my hesitance to pony up $1300+ on a MB when that's only slightly less than I paid for my 12" PB 3.5 years ago (and that has dedicated graphics!). Looks like Christmas doesn't come early for me :(

Historically, Apple's stock price has dropped on media event days. The typical "Buy on Rumor, Sell on News" rule holds true for Apple. Yesterday's rally had nothing to do with lower priced laptops. Apple moved inline with the rest of the market (maybe 1-2% better because Apple is still pretty cheap when you look at its financials).

Hickman
 
which one? My NEC is as matte as an unpolished baby-butt.

Not sure, out of the office on a business trip. If your really interested PM me your email, I'll get someone back @ the office to look.

It's nice ^^;
 
What no matte display!!!!!!! are you mad Apple.

Hi all

I'm sorry but just had to chip in about no matte displays . From my experience when you are on location or even in a clients office a glossy display is a big hinderance it's like trying to view images in a mirror . If it's that good why isn't my 30'' cinema display glossy.


"the hint was on the box MacBookPro" yes Pro

Regards all


Jon
 
facts for matte
a high percentage of apple customers are designer or whatsoever and need... really need a matte display
2nd fact apple customers take their notebook way more often out to study or work whatever

if glossy only comes as option there will be less people buying because they cant go out with a glossy display and the others cant work with it.
if apple wanna kill the mbp line they just should have erased it instead of making it glossy only.
 
Is that a joke?

$800+ for a 24" display, it better give blowjobs at that price, because it's highway robbery.

Best. Reply. Ever.


Based on what I've seen, I think today might be a disappointing day. I am hoping that the 24" - $800 screen is my iMac-like dock. It would explain the price, but it's still steep for an extra harddrive, display and ports.

As for other hardware, I'm not really a huge fan of that pricing either. And not bumping processor speed or cores? You're kidding, right? Please say you are.

I feel the vaule of my 15" matted 2.5 ghz MBP going WAY up.

I want something to get excited about and it just seems like this really isn't it. Am I the only one who has a feeling that we will have one or two surprises. Like something that is either a low-probability or an unknown.
 
All that complaining... Didn't you realize that it is Apple Inc. now! Apple Computer Inc. is gone, they don't care about the Pro-users anymore.
 
I want something to get excited about and it just seems like this really isn't it. Am I the only one who has a feeling that we will have one or two surprises. Like something that is either a low-probability or an unknown.

I don't think we'll see any surprises. We haven't seen a surprise in quite a while when you really think about it.
 
SLI macbooks?

The geforce 9400M is a hybrid SLI configuration of a 9100 integrated and a 9300 dedicated. This would mean that the macbooks would have a true dedicated graphics subsystem... NOT justa faster integrated than intel (ie, even faster than the faster we were hoping for). This would also mean that a low end non-SLI version could be shipped with just ;) the 9100, similar to when imacs were available with GMA 950 (garbage graphics) instead of the Radeon 1600 on the low end... but the 9100 is really a very fine graphics system as it is much closer to a dedicated graphics card than any integrated system we've seen so far. :D

The rumors may have misunderstood the Nvidia product portfolio given that they keep saying "9400 integrated". We may see "only" 9100M graphics instead of hybrid SLI (which would basically make them 13" macbook pro's). Please note that the 9100M is a huge leap as it is, probably 33-66% faster depending on the application (with some seeing no benefit) so this should not be a huge setback. A $1299 midrange system with dedicated graphics would be much, much more reasonable, however, than the old macbooks, which were $300 overpriced for their hardware (but well worth it since they were macs).

So, stop saying "9400 integrated". It is SLI.
 
...Apple wants those who really want matte screens to get the new Cinema Display which would be in matte (or as an option).

That's stupid. What's the weight and autonomy of the Cinema Display so I can use it in the train or at the Starbuck? Does it fit in my Crumpler or Lowepro photo bag so I can take on holidays? Can it travel on plane in cabin or does it have to be checked in?

Besides, it's not because you have an Apple laptop that you have to buy an Apple external monitor. Lacie or the other competitors make monitor that compete easily with what Apple offers.
 
The real killer about the potential glossy-only displays is that they don't seem to be accompanied by a price drop. The only reason Apple would cut matte screens from the lineup is to reduce their supply and assembly costs, and if none of those savings are being passed on to the consumer than their pro line will be even more overpriced than it was yesterday...
 
How many glossy screened MBP's has anyone ever seen? I've never seen one. Ever. So that would suggest that barely anybody goes for the glossy screen option! So why in the hell would they make the new models glossy only?

Good point. I service Mac laptops for a living and I think I've come across maybe two (I think) glossy MacBook Pro's in the last two years.
 
Wait so when you say that the macbooks would have 9300 dedicated... does that mean its better than the 8600?

I CAN SAVE SOME MONEYS!!!


only if thats the case of course.

EDIT: woops had to change to 9300
 
i don't know much about displays... I was all set to get a glossy screen on my MBP, but went with what they had in the store in the end. I've never sat in front of a glossy laptop for a long time, but we've all spent a lot of time in front of CRT monitors, and those never bothered me. In fact I find them a nice change, I like the deep blacks. But anyway, it's amazing that so much fuss has already been kicked up before we even know for a fact whether or not there will be a matte option.


I'm betting other improvements will include lighter weight and/or longer battery. I think they're new manufacturing process allowed them to save weight on the casing. Maybe they took up that weight with a bigger battery. That would be great.
 
I don't think we'll see any surprises. We haven't seen a surprise in quite a while when you really think about it.

Blogs and spy sites have a good track record for getting some useful information, images, or sometimes bits of info about the guts. However there are often important details that are totally missed until they are officially unveiled to the public.

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The real killer about the potential glossy-only displays is that they don't seem to be accompanied by a price drop. The only reason Apple would cut matte screens from the lineup is to reduce their supply and assembly costs, and if none of those savings are being passed on to the consumer than their pro line will be even more overpriced than it was yesterday...
Well, Apple is hell bent on extreme profit margins, to the point where if they have to put out one aggressively priced model with lower margins, buyers of their other products will somehow have to subsidize it. I can totally see them cutting corners on the Pro line to finance the "loss" on the low-end model.

Everytime they announce something that's competitively priced, it either turns out that it's built from outdated junk, or they've removed a few ports and other components, or you'll be paying for it through bills from AT&T. Whichever the case, you can always be sure that they will never, ever, pass the savings on to you.
 
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