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wtf? Lol.. 45 degrees? THAT'S INSANE!
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Why are you people tying your Macs to a kite?
 
I've been working professionally (design, 3D modeling, graphics, presentations) every day with my final generation Powerbook since the month the original MacBook Pros came out (three years in January). That was after the same time on a TI Powerbook. If the "glossy only" rumor is true (constituting a major judgment error by Apple -- appealing more to movie watching over creative production), I might again have to buy a previous generation model (or dare I say a PC laptop) - that'd be pretty f*ckin stupid for Apple and pretty sad for me...

Same here, I won't be buying laptops for the studio if they are glossy only.

Apple won't get my money if they are that stupid.
 
You've not used an iPhone then? It's solid, very solid. Glass screen.

Exactly, tempered glass *is* very solid. I have a glass table at home, it's pretty much unbreakable, you can sit on it too... Properly formulated glass can be extremelly resistant. You have to remember that glass is not a real solid, it's rather an infinitely viscous fluid. This can make it as solid as the best plastics. After all, you can lean on a several square meter glass pannel that is a few millimeters thin without it breaking from your weight...

Common glass breaks, because it's thin and built to be cheap, not to be especially strong...
 
4 within 15 minutes? I didn't think they were putting them that close. I live in the mountains of Western North Carolina, they really should put one in Asheville, there are TONS of Mac users here! The closest two are in Knoxville which is 2 hours away or Charlotte which is a little over 2. I have never even been to an Apple Store. I really really wanna go. I may drive down to Charlotte to buy my MacBook since I can get the education discount there.
 
Why are you people tying your Macs to a kite?

That picture is a perfect example of a 45 degree angle, which the guy said he lets his notebook slant at. I'm tired of people calling other people dumb, when they don't understand what degrees are themselves. (not directing an insult at you, just complaining.)
 
Who goes from the verticle 90 degrees and then adds as if that 90 is at 0 again? Completely vertically, it is at 90 degrees, when meeting with the desk or base of laptop. If you slant it more, it is more than 90 degrees. In between 90 and 180 (which would be if it was laid flat)

45ish: _\
90: _|
100ish: _/
180: __

You guys are all arguing the same thing.

Assuming this layout:

___/ <back of screen
^keyboard

1. It is >90 degrees if the angle you are measuring is between the keyboard and the screen

2. It is <90 if you're measuring from the vertical

3. It is <90 if you're measuring the angle between the back of the screen and the non-keyboard side.
 
4 within 15 minutes? I didn't think they were putting them that close. I live in the mountains of Western North Carolina, they really should put one in Asheville, there are TONS of Mac users here! The closest two are in Knoxville which is 2 hours away or Charlotte which is a little over 2. I have never even been to an Apple Store. I really really wanna go. I may drive down to Charlotte to buy my MacBook since I can get the education discount there.

I live in Toronto, Ontario and this province alone has 4 Apple Stores and they're all in Toronto in the four major malls. Driving distance the furthest is about 15 - 20 minutes. The closest being 10 minutes. Assuming you start from my house.
 
Same here, I won't be buying laptops for the studio if they are glossy only.

Apple won't get my money if they are that stupid.

Right, you're going to replace a Macbook Pro with a Dell! ahahahahahaha. I love how critical people are until they consider the alternatives.
 
I think you're confused. The iMacs sit at (about) 90 degress with the desk as the base. With laptops, the screen and the base of the laptop would slant past 90 degrees. 45 degrees would mean they were more closed. So they would be more like at 95-100 degrees, thus reflecting the light on the ceiling.

\__ <like that (05-100 degrees). Not this (45 degrees-ish) > /__


Or did I not pay attention in drafting when we went over degrees? I could be wrong.
Eh... you're talking about the angle in relation to a horizontal line, i.e. the desk, floor, whatever. If that's how you define angles in whatever country you live in, that's fine, but where I live, angles are defined according to their deviation from a vertical axis that cuts through 0 and 180 degrees on an imaginary circle. Thus an iMac screen is at about 0-20 degrees and a laptop screen at 0-90, where 0 is an L shape, 90 is the screen flat against the table, and -90 is completely closed.
 
You guys are all arguing the same thing.

1. It is >90 degrees if the angle you are measuring is between the keyboard and the screen

2. It is <90 if you're measuring from the vertical

3. It is <90 if you're measuring the angle between the back of the screen and the non-keyboard side.

Let see them do this with their notebooks:


__ <keyboard facing up
| <monitor

There's your 270 degree angle. ;)
 
Eh... you're talking about the angle in relation to the horizon. If that's how you define angles in whatever country you live in, that's fine, but where I live, angles are defined according to their deviation from a vertical axis that cuts through 0 and 180 degrees on an imaginary circle. Thus an iMac screen is at about 0-20 degrees and a laptop screen at 0-90, where 0 is an L shape and 90 is the screen flat against the table.

After we figure this out can we argue in radians?
 
Eh... you're talking about the angle in relation to the horizon. If that's how you define angles in whatever country you live in, that's fine, but where I live, angles are defined according to their deviation from a vertical axis that cuts through 0 and 180 degrees on an imaginary circle. Thus an iMac screen is at about 0-20 degrees and a laptop screen at 0-90, where 0 is an L shape and 90 is the screen flat against the table.

Well in the US, we measure degrees from the horizontal line.


0 > ____ <180

So a verticle line is 90. :eek:

My first example wasn't in relation to the circle, but the next one was. I don't know if you missed that or not. But it's still rude to insult people, Mr. "I dont know what country you're from" and call them stupid for no reason.

At least my laptop doesn't sit at a 45 degree angle. lol
 
It's funny that everyone is hoping that for once in Apple's existance that they'll pull through and actually release something with a big upgrade in specs and a competative price. Seriously guys we can expect for apple to offer us very little for a high price as they have always done. Fan boys will pay it and people who want the OS will pay it, and Apple knows that so they are not going to try and be competative. I mean seriously look at these new macbook specs, if these aren't false rumours then I hope to see Apple go down in a ball of flames.

13-inch MacBook

The new 13-inch MacBooks are said to feature the same trackpad as its larger 15-inch cousins and include NVIDIA's new 9400M graphics chipset. Rumors of a $800 or $900 MacBook are false, however.

Instead, the existing 2.1 GHz white MacBook will remain in Apple's new lineup at a new price of $999. Two new aluminum models will be added:

# $1299: 2.0 GHz, 2 GB memory, 160 GB disk

# $1499: 2.4 GHz, 2 GB memory, 250 GB disk



Ya ok, so lets take the 6 month old and dated bottom end macbook that isn't worth nearly what it costs right now, and lower the price by $50-100 dollars with no changes. Ok Jobs, this wouldn't fly in the best possible economy because it is straight up ripping people, but now?

And then you take the top end macbook, make it more expensive, make it aluminum with a glass track pad and a better GPU, but keep the same speed.... Ok well that is a ****** upgrade but it is not a total rip-off. I mean the fact that it currently isn't worth nearly what they charge for the top macbook since it is very dated (as you all know apple doesn't change their specs or prices very often, so that at the end of a products lifetime just before a refresh it is NOT competative with the current market) means that you should at the very least be able to boost up specs quite a bit with no increase in price. In this case we get NO spec increases aside from a better GPU, but also an LED screen and an aluminum chassis... OK, that is pasable although not very 'good'.

But the mid end macbook - # $1299: 2.0 GHz, 2 GB memory, 160 GB disk - Like the bottom end macbook this is a huge farce and if this rumour is true, shows that Apple is braindead and deserves to go out of business. "Ok lets take a product that is over-priced and very out-dated (the current mid-end macbook) and we'll keep the price the same, lower the processor speed, and give it a better screen/case/GPU. Ok that is BARELY passable, not as bad as the low end one, but a joke.
 
Well in the US, we measure degrees from the horizontal line.


0 > ____ <180

So a verticle line is 90. :eek:
You do?! Come on... if you're looking at a map, north is 90 degrees and south is 270? Seriously? I knew you play football with your hands, but I didn't know about this one... ;)
 
Glossy only. Are you kidding? I could deal with no FW400, no DVI, but now removing the matte screen option? I seriously hope that by the time I'm in the market for one of these they've come out with a matte option. Why do they keep trying to make the MacBook Pro less and less appealing to the professional user?
 
That picture is a perfect example of a 45 degree angle, which the guy said he lets his notebook slant at. I'm tired of people calling other people dumb, when they don't understand what degrees are themselves. (not directing an insult at you, just complaining.)

If you need to illustrate what a 45° angle looks like, then your argument will be an uphill battle indeed. Care to guess the angle of the hill? :D

BTW: I've pitched the screen on my MBP to 135° to type this, and am GLAD it's not a glossy. ;)
 
If you need to illustrate what a 45° angle looks like, then your argument will be an uphill battle indeed. Care to guess the angle of the hill? :D

BTW: I've pitched the screen on my MBP to 135° to type this, and am GLAD it's not a glossy. ;)

I'm pretty sure any argument is pretty impossible with this guy who apparently thinks everyone else is dumber than he is. But hey, at least it's passing the time quickly.
 
Just taken delivery of new 24" iMac. Can't work out if the gloss is annoying or not yet. Either way I'm not really caring about gloss on a notebook right now. I just need something that works! (Apologies is old 14" iBook - did not mean to offend you old faithful!)
 
Goddamn bunch of retards, the 17" MBP was first introduced more than a month after the 15" version, what's the problem with them not refreshing it today exactly?

The problem is the waiting game. I'm ready to replace my 17" powerbook and now they announce something about laptops but keep us waiting for the 17"? There are rumors about just a hard drive bump for the 17" which also is a waste of time if the whole line gets updated. If it does come out a month later revised and updated fine. I'll wait. LONGER.
 
Oh my god enough with the screen angles. TO EACH THEIR OWN, NO ONES INSULTING YOUR MOTHER.

Anyone up for some last minute predictions for bragging rights?

I for one am willing to bet that there will still be matte MBPs. Apple knows what they're doing. Right now as it stands, it goes like this:

-Consumer-
iMac, Glossy
Macbook, Glossy

-Pro-
Mac Pro, your choice obviously
Macbook Pro, your choice.

Apple has made it clear that the higher price ranges and "pro" statuses earn the choice between a matte and glossy. Since Apple has always earned a large portion of it's revenue from Pro machines, I can't see this ever changing, unless some kind of compromise is made to satisfy both the consumers and the pros.

EDIT: TURNS OUT I WAS VERY WRONG!
 
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