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More Claims of Taller, Thinner Next-Generation iPhone with 4-Inch Screen and New Dock Connector
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Oh noes
****! New dock connector?! Would that mean I would have to replace all the sound systems and car audio head unit to make the new rumored iphone compatible?
****! New dock connector?! Would that mean I would have to replace all the sound systems and car audio head unit to make the new rumored iphone compatible?
Make it thinner, get the screen bigger, same length and width.
Wow, I sound like an ungrateful sod even asking that!
Wow, I sound like an ungrateful sod even asking that!
You're asking some good questions! To answer your last question, I would prefer a 1mm device. Once a device is 1mm, technology will have truly begun to get out of the way of life. I personally think the current thickness is almost perfect.
There is a point in thinness where you will hold a device differently IMHO. But it must be extremely thin to feel natural. In the middle of the current thickness and extreme thinness (sub 4mm) will just be awkward.
Screen size: possibly 4.5". 4" woul make me question why they bothered. Why? Screen real estate. But just taller wouldn't help my work flow.
Seriously. It's plenty thin as it is now, and thinner and I'd be afraid of it snapping in half or something (not actually of course). Thinner isn't always better.
Obviously this is just a rumor. I would highly doubt that this design really makes it into the market. I can see several issues. From a design point of view it seems to lack proportion. From a screen point of view, either they keep the same pixels and dilute resolution (retina minus as a marketing point, I doubt it), or increase pixels slightly and cause trouble to all the apps. Very unlikely for me that this is happening. LTE for me is a given on the next iPhone, everything else is a question mark.
I wouldn't mind if the keep the same design, but I don't want the design to be just taller. I would also like to see it wider to keep the same dimensions if you will.
I have no desire to own any Android, or WP7 at the moment but that would change if Apple ever released a design that looks like that. I've never had a gripe with Android hardware. Only the software.
good god apple STOP CHANGING YOUR CONNECTOR or switch to a connector that everyone else is using (micro USB perhaps?).
Every stupid time they do this I have to purchase all new crap for my house and change out the entire iConnectors in my car which requires me to pull the entire dash apart. This is just me too...what about all of the 3rd party manufacturers (including cars) that now have to change AGAIN. Thankfully some have gotten wise to apple's BS when it comes to connectors and have simply put USB ports in their cars to avoid spending millions changing their stuff up every time apple updates it's crap on a whim.
After this, they'll change it again to a thunderbolt port on the iPhone 6.
Maybe the problem isn't that they update their connector CONSTANTLY but the frequency at which they do this.
Every stupid time they do this I have to purchase all new crap for my house and change out the entire iConnectors in my car which requires me to pull the entire dash apart. This is just me too...what about all of the 3rd party manufacturers (including cars) that now have to change AGAIN. Thankfully some have gotten wise to apple's BS when it comes to connectors and have simply put USB ports in their cars to avoid spending millions changing their stuff up every time apple updates it's crap on a whim.
After this, they'll change it again to a thunderbolt port on the iPhone 6.
Maybe the problem isn't that they update their connector CONSTANTLY but the frequency at which they do this.
What's the point of having a larger screen if it just displays the app in the size of the 3.5" screen? Most apps are not from active developers and would probably never be redeveloped to fit the full screen.
Tony
The iDevice connector has been the same on every device ever since I got an iPod in 2003...
apple needs to do a big change on this one and i mean big to make up for the BS that was the 4S "upgrade"...
Here is what they need:
1. bigger screen at least 4"
2. LTE
3. 1gig ram
4. new design
5. Stereo speakers
6. new upgraded earbuds
7. Longer battery life
8. Massive IOS redesign
Here is what they need:
1. bigger screen at least 4"
2. LTE
3. 1gig ram
4. new design
5. Stereo speakers
6. new upgraded earbuds
7. Longer battery life
8. Massive IOS redesign
Well, what's the point of making the screen larger only to have the resolution remain the same? Just hold the existing phone a little closer instead. Plus, then why did they just spend all that money getting the pixel density down to 326ppi? All the effort only to blow it back up by making the screen larger at the same resolution?
Furthremore, in your posts above, you already stated that you agree both resolution and size will increase in the future. Ok, so if not a larger screen with current apps remaining the same size as they are on today's screen then what, exactly? Surely not a super-hero-retina display of 1920x1280, right? Even if we went to 5 inches, achieving the necessary pixel density is long way off (unless you beleved the Galaxy S3 will arrive at 1920x1080 later today - which I am extremely skeptical of).
Are you proposing the resolution increase while the pixel density decreases? If so, same question I already posed applies: why did they just spend all that money getting pixel density to 326ppi?
Any solution other than the above two will mean you either keep existing apps the same size as I suggest, or you are forced to scale apps and deal with the likely ugly artifacting that would result.
At least by adding more pixels you give current and future developers the opportunity to use more real estate. Moreover, by changing aspect ratio, you make the shape of the screen more closely match the shape of the phone for a more efficient package.
Furthremore, in your posts above, you already stated that you agree both resolution and size will increase in the future. Ok, so if not a larger screen with current apps remaining the same size as they are on today's screen then what, exactly? Surely not a super-hero-retina display of 1920x1280, right? Even if we went to 5 inches, achieving the necessary pixel density is long way off (unless you beleved the Galaxy S3 will arrive at 1920x1080 later today - which I am extremely skeptical of).
Are you proposing the resolution increase while the pixel density decreases? If so, same question I already posed applies: why did they just spend all that money getting pixel density to 326ppi?
Any solution other than the above two will mean you either keep existing apps the same size as I suggest, or you are forced to scale apps and deal with the likely ugly artifacting that would result.
At least by adding more pixels you give current and future developers the opportunity to use more real estate. Moreover, by changing aspect ratio, you make the shape of the screen more closely match the shape of the phone for a more efficient package.
I think his point is that changing the aspect ratio is problematic. Increasing the screen size by only increasing the height and adding pixels in that dimension isn't the most elegant addition, if most apps will only display in cropped portion of the taller screen.
I think it makes much more sense to go to 4" screen with same aspect ratio as before. You still wouldn't discern pixels on such a screen as pixel density would still be very high, so you're not really 'blowing it back' that much.
I think it makes much more sense to go to 4" screen with same aspect ratio as before. You still wouldn't discern pixels on such a screen as pixel density would still be very high, so you're not really 'blowing it back' that much.
Pretty interesting. If Apple goes to 4" but doesn't bump up the resolution, the iPhone will lose its retina display pixel density. But if Apple increases the resolution, they'll have iOS fragmentation on their hands. Seems like they've painted themselves into a corner.
Ok, but I've already described how it can be handled. You simply don't use the newly available space if you don't want to. Keep on making those 3:2 apps forever if you wish.
Increasing the screen size by only increase the height and adding pixels in that dimension isn't just inelegant - it is utterly arbitrary. You are changing resolution, aspect ratio, and size in that case. Now, why go to that trouble and end up with a screen that still is not the same aspect ratio of HD video? It makes absolutely no sense.
But if you are making the screen 4" and not changing resolution (which is what I think you meant above), then what are you gaining? Nothing tangible. Like I've said already - just hold the phone a little closer if you want a bigger picture of the image you are already seeing at the same exact resolution.
Geezus people, why do you think so many of us are telling you that a 4" screen stretched vertically is the only solution?
Because it solves these problems absolutely:
1. Ability to run existing apps pixel for pixel (so apps remain pretty!)
2. Ability to run existing apps centimetre perfect! (physical size of screen elements will not change which is very very important to Apple)
3. Offer more screen real estate for apps or new iOS developments (which could be quickly adapted by official apps, whilst all other apps yet to update might just run a fat status bar or have the multi-tasking bar present at all times (something anyways to fill in the vertical space))
4. Keeps a phone's physical form from being too wide in your hand (which is more uncomfortable than a taller phone (think of standard home phones!))
All other solutions are just total crap peoples - If Apple is moving to a 4" screen (which they damn well better!), then this is the ONLY way they'll do it, guaranteed! End of story
Because it solves these problems absolutely:
1. Ability to run existing apps pixel for pixel (so apps remain pretty!)
2. Ability to run existing apps centimetre perfect! (physical size of screen elements will not change which is very very important to Apple)
3. Offer more screen real estate for apps or new iOS developments (which could be quickly adapted by official apps, whilst all other apps yet to update might just run a fat status bar or have the multi-tasking bar present at all times (something anyways to fill in the vertical space))
4. Keeps a phone's physical form from being too wide in your hand (which is more uncomfortable than a taller phone (think of standard home phones!))
All other solutions are just total crap peoples - If Apple is moving to a 4" screen (which they damn well better!), then this is the ONLY way they'll do it, guaranteed! End of story
You gain a LOT of things with a bigger screen with the same resolution but lower pixel density. For one, this is a touch screen. You gain finger room for keyboards and gestures and the like. Secondly, there is a minimum size for text, controls, objects in games, etc. that things need to be in order to be seen comfortably. When you enlarge the screen, those things can remain the same size and then you can fit more on the screen. For instance, more text for reading a book or more shown on a similarly zoomed web page. Lastly, movies / video have a larger screen to play on. You may get a similar effect on the latter by holding in closer, but who really want to hold a screen unfortably closer for a 2 hour movie.
Tony
Unnecessarily hostile much?
Adding pixels on the other dimension has zero effect on this.
Again, adding more resolution in all directions will still allow this.
Same as above.
There is enough space to fit more pixels in the smaller dimension on the current form factor while keeping the same DPI. Specifically, 720 pixels could fit. Furthremore, even if we increase the width by a 10th of an inch its inconsequential. The effect would be no more dramatic than the switch from the curved 3gs case to the squared off 4.
All other solutions are just total crap peoples - If Apple is moving to a 4" screen (which they damn well better!), then this is the ONLY way they'll do it, guaranteed! End of story
WARNING, WARNING: Catostrophic deductive reasoning failure.
1. You're assuming we all make a lot of errors while typing. I for one, have short, chubby digits, and i'm fine with the keyboard, as is.
2. I'm pretty sure what we need is more mobile pages over more scrollable.
3. Photos work fine as is. I can see mine just fine, maybe you need glasses?
4. Aside from the fact that draw something is losing people on a regular basis... I would agree that a bigger screen would help with gaming. However, if I really want to play video games, I use a game system or my iPad. My 4s is really only good for quick games on the go.
5. Multitouch works fine on the 3.5" screen, but I understand your point.
6. Like the games, I agree that it would be nicer for a larger screen. However, like games, I move to a better system if I want to watch any real video. The screen size is fine for Youtube.
There is really no good reason to increase the display size, 3.5" is the mobile sweet spot. Increasing the size for a minority of users who want it, would cause too many problems across the board and would be un-Apple like.
to save space. If you've ever seen the inside of an iPhone you will notice that every little micro-inch counts. By reducing the size of the connector and the sim tray which they are pushing for, they can save valuable space in there to either make it smaller or accomodate new technology that may be a little bigger.
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