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Now when will we get to see Samsung's prototypes that led up to the ones that just happened to look like the iPhone?

I was wondering this. Surely the design process that Samsung went through to come up with their designs is a lot more relevant than Apple's and would enable them to prove they didn't just copy Apple. Unless their design portfolio is just made up of Apple devices.
 
There's a difference between companies getting inspiration from each other and blatant copying. You get inspired by something and you still make it your own thing in the end. I don't see that with the Samsung phone below. And based on all these prototypes being leaked it's obvious there isn't only one way to design a phone. Plus the Galaxy S III looks nothing like an iPhone, so Samsung is capable of doing their own thing when they want to.

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Don't forget lining there pockets and paying dividends. :cool:

Yup. Don't misunderstand, this isn't just Apple, this is a corporate issue based on cornering markets and monopolizing products. I'm looking at the bigger picture, and all these suits seem to result in stifling innovation. When Apple has such amazingly broad patents, which is the cornerstone of these suits, it makes it next to impossible for a company to produce a genuinely unique product without Apple stepping in and stating "Hey, we have a patent on that!".

This issue boils down to how many patents Apple has been granted, and in the greater context of IP WHY they were granted such patents as they are so extremely broad.

Not all of them, mind you, but a good amount. As for this particular suit, I don't know the specifics regarding Apple's and Samsung's claims, but it seems a lot of it is trifling. I want Apple to spend their money and time on moving on and innovating more. Some of these patents are so old and some not even utilized, just patented the second Apple could get them into court. If Apple is so innovative, then Apple should also develop something new (many claim Samsung and Google should just innovate more, well, why not Apple). Apple could move on, create the next big "thing", and put this behind them, if they are so great and genius :).
 
I was wondering this. Surely the design process that Samsung went through to come up with their designs is a lot more relevant than Apple's and would enable them to prove they didn't just copy Apple. Unless their design portfolio is just made up of Apple devices.
Yes should be pretty easy to produce the prototypes. The purple prototype shows that Apple came to the iPhone 4 design independent of the LG Prada. If Samsung has prototypes that predate the iPhone they should be able to prove they were thinking of these designs independent of Apple, no?
 
All these prototypes look familiar to phones we have seen, in there I have seen images of the Samsung Tocco, the Prada phone etc, and it's clear the iPhone is copied off Sony.

All of these companies use Foxconn to make their phones and prototypes, it's quite clear that Foxconn are selling each others designs to each other.
 
Not so fast with that statement, the one prototype looks like the current "fake iphone" floating around.

Hense why Apple didnt want any of these designs leaked... Now Samsungs, their mother, and their brothers are going to copy all of these designs..
 
There's a difference between companies getting inspiration from each other and blatant copying. You get inspired by something and you still make it your own thing in the end. I don't see that with the Samsung phone below. And based on all these prototypes being leaked it's obvious there isn't only one way to design a phone. Plus the Galaxy S III looks nothing like an iPhone, so Samsung is capable of doing their own thing when they want to.

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Samsung needed a redesign and the 4S wasn't a redesign so samsung had no choice lol.
 
All these prototypes look familiar to phones we have seen, in there I have seen images of the Samsung Tocco, the Prada phone etc, and it's clear the iPhone is copied off Sony.

All of these companies use Foxconn to make their phones and prototypes, it's quite clear that Foxconn are selling each others designs to each other.

The only thing obvious is that you ignore facts that disprove your assertion. There is no longer any evidence that Apple copied Sony.
 
This entire thing is beginning to become such a waste of time...

APPLE!!! INVEST YOUR MONEY IN RESEARCH AND DESIGN!!! NOT IN LAWSUITS!!!!

Somebody has got to stop this madness.

All of us, as consumers are going to paying the price for this in the near future through:

1. Lack of development.

2. Total lack of choice.

3. Huge increase in cost.

APPLE!!! PLEASE STOP SUING EVERYONE CONSTANTLY!!!!!!!!!
 
Hmm...I read that "Purple" was the code name of the iPod clickwheel phone, and the touchscreen phone project was "Purple 2", or "P2".
 
Hense why Apple didnt want any of these designs leaked... Now Samsungs, their mother, and their brothers are going to copy all of these designs..

And before Apple can sell the first unit, the Samsung/HTC/[insert Android manufacturer here] will have it on the market, and moved on to the next one. So, a good design gets stuck with a version of Ice Cream Sandwich and will never be updated until eternity. Still having a 3-moths-use HTC Merge at home. That thing is so outdated (Android Froyo or 2.2, and updatable to 2.3 Gingerbread), still gets sold and was newer than my iPhone 4 (iOS 5.1.1, R.I.P.).
 
This entire thing is beginning to become such a waste of time...

APPLE!!! INVEST YOUR MONEY IN RESEARCH AND DESIGN!!! NOT IN LAWSUITS!!!!

Somebody has got to stop this madness.

All of us, as consumers are going to paying the price for this in the near future through:

1. Lack of development.

2. Total lack of choice.

3. Huge increase in cost.

APPLE!!! PLEASE STOP SUING EVERYONE CONSTANTLY!!!!!!!!!

They did. Samsung didn't.

Patents and copyrights encourage, rather than limit, development and choice.
 
They did. Samsung didn't.

Patents and copyrights encourage, rather than limit, development and choice.

Except that Apple didn't invent everything you see in the modern iPhone either! They've taken from others successes just as much. The entire mobile industry is guilty. From top to bottom!

It's just like saying, "You know, Xerox invented the mouse, so logitechs advances and creations should be totally disregarded!"

...or, "You know, Commodore pioneered true multi-tasking, so nobody else should be allowed to provide an OS capable of such things."

...or even more simple: "WOW!!! Ford put a windshield on the Model A!!! Take that Toyota! NO MORE WINDOWS!!!"

Apple is the new Microsoft and it makes me sick to my stomach. :(
 
Except that Apple didn't invent everything you see in the modern iPhone either! They've taken from others successes just as much. The entire mobile industry is guilty. From top to bottom!

They don't even claim to have invented the parts, which they didn't even make. I think the retina display is actually made by Samsung. They created the design and the OS, and that was innovative. If the reason you liked Apple before was because it was small and didn't sue, you were liking it for the wrong reason. Apple continues to produce quality products even if their tech support is bogged down by idiots who don't know how to use an iPhone.

If there were patents on windshields or phones, they would have expired long ago and become public domain.
 
So much for all the Android fan's BS claims that the LG Prada and F700 were designed before iPhone.

Well this doesn't disprove that, do you think the Prada was designed over a weekend? And anyway, the Prada is just used as a BS response to the BS claim that "only Apple innovates, the rest copies".
 
They don't even claim to have invented the parts, which they didn't even make. I think the retina display is actually made by Samsung. They created the design and the OS, and that was innovative.

Oh, and if there were patents on windshields or phones, they would have expired long ago and become public domain.

What design? A rectangle with a touch screen? ...fancy that, shapes and contexts that have been available to a consumer for years now.

As for the OS. They simplified the touch screen environment, but they didn't invent it. Placing icons in an organized row, and interfacing with those said icons via human digits has been around for decades. Sorry man, but that is not an Apple innovation.

Have they simplified and or refined such things, indeed, have they invented them, not a chance.

As for phones, windshields, etc. their lack of modern copyrights has nothing to do with my point. At issue is the idea that someone should be allowed to own exclusive rights to specific interface types, styles, shapes, etc.

...and in my opinion, that answer is a firm no. Apple should not be allowed to argue their use of the rectangle and finger accessible icons is exclusive to their own design team.
 
There's a difference between companies getting inspiration from each other and blatant copying. You get inspired by something and you still make it your own thing in the end. I don't see that with the Samsung phone below. And based on all these prototypes being leaked it's obvious there isn't only one way to design a phone. Plus the Galaxy S III looks nothing like an iPhone, so Samsung is capable of doing their own thing when they want to.

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This is crazy talk! That Samsung phone clearly has a rectangular home button, nothing like the iPhone!! ;)

But in all seriously everyone "copies", or rather draws inspiration from each other in the phone industry - Apple have taken many features from Android and vice versa, let alone all the others.
 
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