Such as? I'm genuinely curious, but don't say Notification Center since both Apple and Android got that from the iOS Jailbreak community.
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Such as? I'm genuinely curious, but don't say Notification Center since both Apple and Android got that from the iOS Jailbreak community.
...or did the jb community get that idea from Android?
Considering it existed on Cydia before it showed up in Android, I think the answer is clear there
Well I guess it's unclear. I can't find any information on when David Ashman began working on LockInfo, and whether or not he was aware of this Google Patent in Jan 2009, but he did have the App released on the market before Google did. Perhaps someone should email him and ask when he started working on LockInfo and if it was as a result of knowing Google was working on something similar. He is best known for the LockInfo tweak, and in an interview in 2011 he said he started working on iOS 3 years prior (so 2008), but he didn't say if it was specifically for LockInfo.
In any case, since it was first to market, it isn't unreasonable to think Apple copied from the iOS hacks rather than Google's patents. But thanks for this info, I wasn't aware of it.
Suddenly, I'm liking these lawsuits a whole lot more
Keep 'em coming!
Yes, let's encourage the spending of tens of millions on lawyers so the costs can be transferred to us by whichever side loses, if one even wins.
Miss my first iphone
, well not really...I remember the case i had dented the entire aluminum backplate!! Still sold it for the same price i paid for it 1 year later. Bring on the iphone 5!!
Right then go make something great out of that shape and get back with the results.
It only looks simple when presented to you in the final product, but come the day you would be asked make something and all you would be doing is quacking around.
The notification system on Android has been around since the beginning (HTC Dream G1, Oct. 2008). They applied for the patent after it was available..who knows how long Google had been developing the notification system, but it predates 2008 at the least. He probably didn't know about the patent itself, but I wouldn't be surprised if the notification system in Android inspired him.
A lot of features Apple has released over the years in their updates have been taken from the jailbreak community. The jailbreak community, imo, are comprised of people who wanted the sleek looking, easy to use, and fast iPhone combined with the features of OS's like Blackberry, Symbian, WinMobile, and Android. Apps, MMS, copy and paste, wifi sync, cloud support, notifications, voice control..all of these features have existed in some form on most of those OS's, but it took a while for iOS to incorporate a lot of those features. You had to rely heavily on the jailbreak community if you wanted any of that until the last year or two. That's why I'm surprised people who support Apple think Google/Android (or any other company accused of this) is copying them. Apple is usually last to bring features that exist elsewhere to the market because of their need to perfect and simplify (good thing, imo).
I think both sides have taken an equal amount from each other. Google, their OEMs, and Microsoft needed Apple to realize that easy to use and beautiful, well designed interfaces are necessary for a good experience. This made the idea of a smartphone appealing to the mass market. I say "idea" because the iPhone was not a true smartphone (compared to the features of BB, Symbian, and WinMobile) when it was first released, but it certainly had potential to be the best. I applaud Apple for that realization 5-7 years ago.
Apple has taken and adopted a lot of features slowly from tons of mobile operating systems over the years too, though. Combine Apple needing influence from other companies for features and Google needing influence for better design and ease of use..and we are finally starting to reach a parity where no phone is really better than the other. It's a good thing and why I believe Apple needs to stop what they've been doing. Recognize that everyone has had a hand in today's mobile marketplace and be done with it.
On another note all of this is why we see a company like Microsoft completely breaking down their mobile OS, stripping the features, and releasing a more visually appeal Windows Phone 7, which put more value in user experience, speed, and beautiful design than actual features. Windows Phone 7 lacks sooooo many features that exist on WinMobile 6.X, but they realized a beautiful, well designed operating system was necessary before building features. Now slowly but surely Windows Phone is finally starting reach the level of features that was available years ago on WinMobile. Taking a page out of Apple's book.
All of these companies need each other, Apple included.
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SB Settings was announced on October 19, 2008 http://thebigboss.org/the-future-of-bossprefs
The first Android phone the G1 was released Oct 22, 2008.
Of course this probably means they both arrived at the same obvious solution independently.
In Samsung's case, the Galaxy S I and II and the Tab 10.1 all came out after the iPhone and iPad and "coincidentally" looked the same. I don't believe that 3 times, both phones just happened to look like Apple's. Let's not even get into the interface, the box, and the charger, their goal to "beat Apple", and the other phones that look like iPhones namely the Galaxy Ace.
Samsung has a history of making ****** phones (I owned the U600, just awful hardware and over sensitive capacitive buttons and UI) and for them to come out with a product that competes with a competitor, always looking the same, always coming out after the competing product is just too much.
Oh, I didn't realize. For some reason I was under the impression it only came with Android 2.0. Thanks.
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That list is a joke. I was asking for something a little more serious.
Well, the Galaxy Tab looks exactly like a certain digital photo frame that Samsung made in 2006, so how can it be a copy of the 2010 iPad if Samsung had already made that design before? If anything, Apple copied Samsung in this regard
There's just not too many ways to design a touch-based phone. It's going to have zero or more buttons below a screen as large as you can afford to put in it, and either a curved or flat back.
What's interesting is how many people, especially here, at first exclaimed that the iPhone 4 it looked like a Zune or like a Sony design... while almost no one said it looked like an Apple design.
Yep, that's what Wired said in their history based on insider interviews:
Would love for an ex-employee to write an anonymous tell-all book one day, so we could know the truth.
What's interesting is how many people, especially here, at first exclaimed that the iPhone 4 it looked like a Zune or like a Sony design... while almost no one said it looked like an Apple design.
Yep, that's what Wired said in their history based on insider interviews:
Would love for an ex-employee to write an anonymous tell-all book one day, so we could know the truth.
Miss my first iphone
I remember the case i had dented the entire aluminum backplate!! Still sold it for the same price i paid for it 1 year later. Bring on the iphone 5!!
I still have an iPhone, but I'm really hating the stupid indented audio jack. I have to jam my headphone cable into it to get it to work.
Looks like an iPod 3G, which is from 2003. What is clear is Apple's design language has been evolving from the same DNA since 2001. The same can't be true for the competition when has shown a dramatic shift in design since 2001 when the iPod was released.
I'm fairly certain Apple never intended that as a serious design. When Apple was prototyping the (original) iPhone, they had prototypes of the real hardware running fake software (the leaked SkankPhone prototype), and other prototypes of fake hardware running the real software. Considering that one's running a final-looking version of the original iOS, I'd imagine it's one of the fake hardware + real software units.
Let's hope Apple applied the same prototyping technique to the next iPhone; those leaks/renders/parts don't match the quality of the 4/4S.
I didn't mean that two-tone design, I meant the one that we're seeing now, with three bands of color.
Can't happen. Whoever loses will have to create an inferior product since they can't use the technology in question, so to compensate they will either have to compete elsewhere or lower prices. Who in their right mind would pay more for an inferior product?
*sigh* No one suggests that on the F700. It is being argued as the model that spawned many others in their case. It had a physical keyboard, but it's possible that their touch screen drivers were not fully there at the time.
Yet the S III was still added to the lawsuit. Apple initially even had the F700 listed as an infringing device. Anything even remotely similar is going to be added. They're just blanketing claims and seeing what sticks.
They wouldn't need them. If they were trying to disprove claims of copying, it would be whether they had something prior to the iphone debut, not who had the first prototype (doesn't matter in this context).
I love seeing these old designs... it's fascinating... Interesting how some of them resemble completely different types of phones, and even the newer iPhones...
Do you people even realize what you're saying?
Apple poured TONS OF CASH in R&D when developing the iPhone and iPad, at a time where the company was barely recovering from the brink of bankruptcy thanks to the iPod.
If the iPhone had flopped (could have suffered technical problems or other), Apple probably wouldn't be here!
Look at the other parts of their business, laptops sell OK but server were a flop, PRO desktop range isn't bringing a lot of cash (partly due to slow evolving CPU in that range that render model redesign useless), consumer desktop sales are slow too EVEN with the halo effect from iDevices.
So after BETTING the entire company on their success in a market they had no experience in, they are supposed to let others capitalize on their risk?
THIS is what patents were made for... To allow those who take risks to reap the benefits without being robbed by stronger (older) players.
Take the market capitalization of all those companies the years before the introduction of the iPhone to see it took courage, courage should be rewarded.