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Originally posted by sethypoo
I've never really liked HP, but it would be interesting to see if they end up undercutting Apple's iPod sales.
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I don't see how it can undercut Apple's sales because Apple is making it. They must be figuring in their little Markup, so HP is really just the reseller. Probably something like a yellow and blue Best Buy iPod, or a bright red Circuit City iPod.

I'm not much for HP computers, but their iPAQ line is great. I have an iPAQ 2215 with PocketMac and find it far more fun than the Palm. The palm is probably more practical though, mainly because it is less fun. Age of empires on the iPAQ is a great time waster!
 
Originally posted by blueBomber
I missed that, my mistake. Thankfully, your unecessary caps lock pointed it out.;)
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I did put 2-3 words in lowercase to downplay the uppercase :D

And CEO does'nt count as uppercase because it has to be written that way ;)
 
Originally posted by diniscorreia
One word: brand
Right now, iPod equals Apple. What will happen then?
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I have a feeling that the hPod will be "the HPod by Apple" or " the hPod, brought to you by Apple" or something along those lines.
 
Originally posted by Ransath
Okay - a short business lesson to you folks out there that think this will somehow impact iPod sales.

First off - do you fully understand what Apple is doing here? They WILL BE selling the iPod, just with a slightly different package. Now, who do you think is actually going to manufature this player? Apple!!! NOT HP!! Apple will just be "reselling" it to HP. Apple will get the lion's share of the profit of every hPod sold. HP will get a bit of the profit, but Apple is the one that will make out.

That's what makes this such a great deal for Apple. They still control the manufacturing and the quality. They still reap the majority of the profits.

So what does HP get out of this? As we all know, most PC users are clones (bear with me). They just buy whatever the big comany is touting as their best stuff. So, if HP says - 'hey, our MP3 player is the best (which it will be)" all those clones will buy it from HP. Also, HP doesn't have to bear the cost of setting up it's own online music store. So, HP spends NOTHING on manufacturing and software costs, they earn a nice little profit on each hPod sold, they offer their customers an HP branded sloution for the digital music wants, and all they have to do is a little promotion.

That is what is called a WIN/WIN situation!!!
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There are plenty of decaffeinated brands now that taste just as good as the caffeinated stuff...

While I think the volume knob could be cranked down a bit, this post is pretty much right on the money. I also think that saying the HP Player will be the same as the 3rd generation iPod might be a "tell"... perhaps by that time, there will be a 4th generation iPod from Apple. Either way, Apple and HP both win, which to me means that all of their users win, as well.
Someone asked who would buy an HP iPod, and another simple answer would be all those people who don't, or won't, understand that Apple iPods really do work with PC's. There are tons of people out there that simply go blind when they see an Apple logo, and deaf when they hear the name Apple. They aren't necessarily bad people, or stupid people, they are people who have been told that Apple stuff and PC stuff are not interchangable... and it was true long enough that it will be a long while before any attempts to correct that mistaken notion are effective in the mass market.
Another thing to consider, which I haven't seen mentioned, is that HP sells PC's through mass-marketers like Wal*Mart. If their version of the iPod sells through those channels as well, we REALLY have a winner.
 
Originally posted by srobert
I did put 2-3 words in lowercase to downplay the uppercase :D

And CEO does'nt count as uppercase because it hase to be written that way ;)
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Fair enough. I still hope that HP gets some say in the price though, it would allow for competitive pricing in the PC market (through sales and promotions and such) on their own terms. Unfortunatly, I guessing they will be forced to adhere to Apple's set pricing like the rest of their resellers.
 
Originally posted by diniscorreia
I mean, wasn't the iPod/iTMS on Windows supposed to bring folks to the Mac world?
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It still could. When people use apple hardware and software that work so well together, that's good for apple, whether HP has their name, in addition to apple's, on on the hardware or not.
A secretary at my work was fed up with her iPod until iTunes came out for Windows. Now it's her best friend. She's said several times how incredible IT and the iPod are. I don't think it would make that much of a difference if the iPod was branded with an HP logo with the Apple logo on the startup screen. She'd figure out that it was an apple product. I think most people would.
Originally posted by diniscorreia
Besides, there will be two similar devices, one HP-branded the other Apple branded?... :confused:
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They'll only be cosmetically different, right? So basically, the devices are the same.
 
I can hear the PC people now:

"Apple?!?!? Are they still in business?"

Don't laugh. I've had somebody say this to me in all seriousness just in the last 2 weeks when they saw my PB
 
Let's see - the second largest computer company in the US (and the world if I'm not mistaken) will be aggressively pushing Apple made products and technology! How can that be bad? I wish Dell would do the same.
 
Originally posted by blueBomber
I still hope that HP gets some say in the price though, it would allow for competitive pricing in the PC market
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You got a point there. I wonder how they'll market this combo. Adding an iPod raise quite a lot a bill when you add it on top of a inexpensive (cheap?) $449.99 —>_$749.99 computer.

Purchasing a high capacity hPod could double the price of your low end HP computer.
 
Everyone wave hi to the 5 Microsoft Media BU employees that happened to stop by ;)
*WAVES*
 

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Originally posted by srobert
HP CEO's SAID it would be HP BLUE himself.
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Question is, what exactly is "HP Blue"?

Like this (a blueish-tinted deep gray): http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/e...236268-15077-236268-239135-239137-239138.html

Or like this (if you click "enlarge", a totally different product shows up apparently ... I mean the deep blue/purplish color that is the main color of this package and of the bottom-right corner and HP logo of the enlarged package): http://www.shopping.hp.com/cgi-bin/...duct_code=C6817A&cat_level=3&browse_link=true

Or will it be one of the four different shades of blue adorning logos and navigation elements of the HP site itself (just plain sloppy, IMHO) ....

I submit that there IS no such thing as "HP Blue". Or rather, that "HP Blue" means, "whatever random shade of blueishness that happens to pop out of our plastic dying process ..."

OTOH, most shades HP uses tend to be more "deep and dark" instead of "bright and vibrant" ...
 
Originally posted by Jerry Spoon
It still could. When people use apple hardware and software that work so well together, that's good for apple, whether HP has their name, in addition to apple's, on on the hardware or not.
A secretary at my work was fed up with her iPod until iTunes came out for Windows. Now it's her best friend. She's said several times how incredible IT and the iPod are. I don't think it would make that much of a difference if the iPod was branded with an HP logo with the Apple logo on the startup screen. She'd figure out that it was an apple product. I think most people would.

They'll only be cosmetically different, right? So basically, the devices are the same.
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Hmmm ok... now that I really though of it..... great move, Apple! :D
 
Originally posted by ebow
I'm guessing that the HPod will come with the USB 2.0 cable by default, instead of the FireWire cable.
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Possible. But since HP will be selling both computers and hPod, they could chose to put a Firewire card in those new multimedia PCs they're gonna come up with. Of course, this would mean that buyers of older HP computers won't be able to plug an hPod on their PC without an hardware upgrade.
 
this is cool news

I think that the most important thing here is that it boosts the possible success of ITMS. I thkn that this is a great move for Apple, and either way they win. Since they are going to manufacture the iPod for HP, they will still be able to have an idea of how many people are buying them. Getting the software to be bundled at HP is a huge deal as from a user standpoint iTunes really is a phenom JukeBox. Since it's introduction I have not had a day go by that I have not used it in some fashion. Even though this does not sell macs for apple, it still sells iPods, as Apple will still do the manufacturing. Leave it to Jobs to turn yet another industry on it's toes. Computer Industry, Animated Film Industry(Pixar), and now the music industry. Makes you wonder what is around the corner with this company. And as far as promoting the new iPod Mini, I still think that something with Mini Cooper is just around the corner. It makes too much sense not to be. First Pods unite, now get a mini with a mini!!!

Anyway, this is a BIG deal, and maybe it will cause others to want to atleast license apples DRM for their devices so that they cvan gain more compatibility and spread the popularity of ITMS. I like this new era of tech that we are now entering!!!!.

Stan
 
Originally posted by Ransath
I have a feeling that the hPod will be "the HPod by Apple" or " the hPod, brought to you by Apple" or something along those lines.
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Who cares?!?! Anything that makes AAC more mainstream is "A good thing"tm There are a ton of WMA players out there. Its about time AAC starts fighting back.
 
Originally posted by jettredmont
...Or will it be one of the four different shades of blue adorning logos and navigation elements of the HP site itself (just plain sloppy, IMHO) ....

I submit that there IS no such thing as "HP Blue". Or rather, that "HP Blue" means, "whatever random shade of blueishness that happens to pop out of our plastic dying process ..."
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LOL, you got a funny point there. It's strange considering that HP is also selling Hi-end Pantone calibrated (supposidly color accurate) printers.

Originally posted by pcp_ip
I believe it's herself. The HP CEO is Carly Fiorina.
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Oops... my bad... but then again, one can never be sure these days ^_^
 
Originally posted by SiliconAddict
Everyone wave hi to the 5 Microsoft Media BU employees that happened to stop by ;)
*WAVES*
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I voted negative on this, for reasons stated in the origiinal post: HP and Apple should be attacking different segments of the market; HP rebranding an iPod does nothing for anybody except get Carly a vanity product.

Thus, this isn't so much a negative development as it is a non-positive development, being hyped to death.

But then, perhaps I've seen too many substance-free "partnerships" and "rebranding" efforts in my time.

Can anyone point to a single HP rebranding effort which paid off for the "other guy"? Their digital cameras? Their early scanners? Anyone?
 
Originally posted by IndyGopher
I also think that saying the HP Player will be the same as the 3rd generation iPod might be a "tell"... perhaps by that time, there will be a 4th generation iPod from Apple.
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This scenario seems reasonable...

HiPod:
10gb, 20gb

iPod:
15gb, 30gb, 60gb + a couple of 4th gen features and new styling to help differentiate it from the HP.
 
Look for stickers on the hPod box to say:

Apple Approved

iTunes and iTunes Music Store compatible

HP Blue:

logo_brand_hp.gif
 
HP vs. iPod

I bet Apple will introduce an updated/changed iPod at the same time the HP model comes out. That way Apple can justify charging more, and it will give mac-heads like me an incentive to have the latest new thing--only available from Apple :)
 
Originally posted by Flowbee
This scenario seems reasonable...

HiPod:
10gb, 20gb

iPod:
15gb, 30gb, 60gb + a couple of 4th gen features and new styling to help differentiate it from the HP.
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hmm..

hPod
10GB - $249
20GB - $349
 
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