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I voted negative on this, for reasons stated in the origiinal post: HP and Apple should be attacking different segments of the market; HP rebranding an iPod does nothing for anybody except get Carly a vanity product.

Well they need to get music for that HP iPod. So I suppose the iTMS isn't benefiting anyone? :D

Next will be the HP iPaq running OS X embedded. Quite possible since the iPaq can and does run Linux Embedded. Darwin embedded has been in the works for some time. Just a thought. :cool:
 
if only this was a lead yp to apple branded hp printers to match the iMac/eMac etc. printers look ugly next to something as nicely designed as a mac
 
Re: Re: Re: thinking outloud....

Originally posted by Ransath
Don't you folks realize that ALL iPods are both Windows/Mac compatible? It just depends on how you format them!!!

Example - my gen2 iPod was a Windows iPod. I bought a new Powerbook in October, promptly reformatted my WINDOWS iPod and now I use it my Mac.

Well, yes. BUT, all current (gen 3) iPods are Mac/Win without a reformat.

Besides which, to your average consumer "Just reformat it" or "Buy a new one for $300" ... the latter seems easier, and so is what they believe the cost of switching would be.
 
Originally posted by Ransath
I have a feeling that the hPod will be "the HPod by Apple" or " the hPod, brought to you by Apple" or something along those lines.

Well apparently it will have the apple logo on startup. But, yeah, it would be nice if it had "iPod technology" in there somewhere.
 
Originally posted by diniscorreia
Hmm I have mixed feelings about this.

I mean, wasn't the iPod/iTMS on Windows supposed to bring folks to the Mac world?
Besides, there will be two similar devices, one HP-branded the other Apple branded?... :confused:

Will the consumer be confused or what?

How does different branding of the same product confuse people, I'm not following you?

The only cause for confusion I could see is that they aren't quite sure who manufactured the HP Pod. In that case, they'll buy the brand they like. Either way, Apple makes the money.

Apple is a business and they want to make money. At this point, they're much less concerned with converting people to Macs because of their cool technology (a strategy that has not served them well at all with only 3% of new computer sales). They're trying a different approach which is to corner the market, and they're making the right moves to do it.
 
Originally posted by diniscorreia
One word: brand
Right now, iPod equals Apple. What will happen then?

I'm sorry, I think your point is moot. The point of building up a brand is so that people buy your products, which will be the case if they buy from HP or Apple. Apple is the manufacturer, they wouldn't destroy theirs, or HP's brand by manufacturing a lousy product. Both will have a strong brand and both will earn money for Apple.
 
Great move. Why? This gets iPods into Radio Shack, Wal-Mart, Kmart, Staples, and all those other places that sell HP, but not Apple.
 
Originally posted by ITR 81
Look for stickers on the hPod box to say:

Apple Approved

iTunes and iTunes Music Store compatible

HP Blue:

logo_brand_hp.gif

or perhaps one of these
appleauthorizedreseller.gif
 
Originally posted by BenRoethig
Great move. Why? This gets iPods into Radio Shack, Wal-Mart, Kmart, Staples, and all those other places that sell HP, but not Apple.

No matter what logo's on the case, in everyone's mind an iPod is an Apple thing. It's semi-branded mindshare and volume. And it's proof that in this market the desktop OSes and the portable OSes are going to swap and shift... btw, the iPod's OS is licensed from others, so it's not yet a complete IP triumph - but who cares. Perception matters, and both Apple and HP win big with this one if it works. And it will. In terms of encouraging switcher action? A net positive... on mindshare.
 
A dark-blue iPod that, other than packaging could very well be identical to a regular iPod (and Mac-compatible too)?
Sign me up. :)
...all I'll need now is a sandblaster to give it a nice Apple logo :p
 
Originally posted by kjottbein
This is really weird. Who would want an iPod that has "HP" written all over it?



:rolleyes: *waves his dense-o-meter in kjottbein direction* Wow I've never seen anything register as a neutron star before. :p
 
Lets not forget that Apple will be selling this, with the Apple logo, to HP.
HP will re-sell to their customers.
If HP sell 2 million, then thats 2 million sales for Apple.
And who knows how many iTunes sales?
How about 100 tunes per annum for each HP iPod?
Thats 200 million iTMS downloads.

Apple may become a serious music biz co.

Eventually, this could lead to very big changes in the music biz - and Apple is #1 in that place right now.

Apple is setting the standard for online music downloads, software, and players.
They are also #1 in all three areas.

And HP is smart enough to align themselves with the winning combo.

I think my original iPod just went UP in value!
 
Re: Step 1: Read; Step 2: Post

Originally posted by wHo_tHe
3. Do people actually *read* anymore?

I'm starting to get the impression that no. No people don't read. Then again I had a brain fart earlier this week when I got pissed that CA is banning displays in the car. Didn't read far enough down to see that it DIDN'T apply to GPS. :eek:
I attrib it to going on a diet, no caffeine, zero sugar, and being generally irked that the gov is once again trying to "save" us.
 
give them a break. It was a minor slip up at best. I didn't remember that the CEO of HP is a woman, not because I don't read, but because I don't use HP products and do not follow their company. Unlike Apple. I can tell you the mac model by just the first nano-second of the startup sound:D
 
This is interesting

I haven't heard anyone comment on this yet:
HP said it will introduce an "entertainment hub" that will serve as a central point to store and manage digital music, photos and movies.

First, HP's music player is really just an iPod that connects to iTMS and uses AAC and Apple's DRM.

Second, HP indroduces an "entertainment hub" that, among other things, serves as a central point to store and manage digital music.

How could these two devices not be connected? How could HP get away with using something other than AAC and Apple's DRM on the "HP entertainment hub"? Answer (IMO) is that they couldn't. Prediction (IMO) is that the "HP entertainment hub" will really be a rebranded "Apple entertainment hub".

You heard it here first. Unless you didn't.
 
good catch, but I don't think this will be connected with Apple. Most PC manufacturers are trying to enter the "digital hub" market with these bridge devices. Besides, it will probably run on WinXp Media Center edition, and not OSX
 
This is a really good thing, because if Apple only gives one model to HP then if people like it they will be encouraged to buy the higher end Apple models. This is also a great opportunity to get ITMS on a lot of windows computers, and it becomes the default player instead of M$ player.
Sounds like smart marketing to me, this may also have an added benefit in lowering prices on iPods in general.
 
For any of you who are looking for the correct phrase, it is "bundle rebate".

This is how HP sells their monitor with the tower, by offering a rebate, since anyone with a brain knows they can buy a cheaper and better monitor instead.

HP will have a package deal you'll see in you Best Buy and CompUSA fliers. If you buy the tower, the monitor, and the hPod , (and the printer ;), you'll get, say, $300 off in rebates or something.

People will buy them in droves, because so many PC users still don't understand that they could use an iPod as well.

Apple made out like a bandit on this one.

The real question is whether or not this new arrangement with HP will get Apple to promote HP printers over Epson printers, as they've been promoting Epson for how long now?
 
Originally posted by jettredmont
I voted negative on this, for reasons stated in the origiinal post: HP and Apple should be attacking different segments of the market; HP rebranding an iPod does nothing for anybody except get Carly a vanity product.

Thus, this isn't so much a negative development as it is a non-positive development, being hyped to death.

But then, perhaps I've seen too many substance-free "partnerships" and "rebranding" efforts in my time.

Can anyone point to a single HP rebranding effort which paid off for the "other guy"? Their digital cameras? Their early scanners? Anyone?

You are more wrong than a very wrong thing ;)

HP is global in a way in which Apple is not.

Whilst the iPod is really big in many markets, those markets do at least need a viable Macintosh market to justify an Apple-led marketing effort as local non-Apple distributors are not going to do that job.

There are a whole of markets , many of which will be developing countries, where HP will be able to reach consumers using its marketing resources.

And, because its halfway between a reseller arrangement and an OEM arrangement, HP will have to commit to a volume purchasing agreement which effectively gives Apple a guaranteed six-figure in unit shipments every quarter.

So, HP pays for the marketing, reaches the customer once, Apple gets the long-term benefit once there is a local iTMS for that end-market.

And all of this doesn't even take into account all of the Windows bigots who would never buy anything with an Apple logo front-and-centre or those who have easier access to an HP reseller than an Apple reseller.

No, this is a good thing - the trick is making it stick and not letting it be a one-off.
 
Good idea: Apple makes the iPod, HP sells it under their own name.

Great idea: Apple makes computers, HP sells them under its own name. This could work, if HP wanted it to. In this way, Apple could still control the quality of its product, and increase its market share.

But this probably won't happen, since HP also sells computers. But why couldn't this happen for some other company? How about an Apple computer with a Walmart brand? Or any other brand name?
 
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