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The airlines will announce an iPhone 8 ban before the week is over.
Weeks over, no ban
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You make a good point, but out of that list, 3 of 4 devices make sense. To the far left, the Shuffle was just enough music to get through a commute or a workout, the Nano added video and some basic functions, the Touch was an iPhone without the Phone. The only thing that was redundant was the Classic. it just was there out of inertia I guess.

Thats still spartan compared to 8 different phones and 4 different iPads. I would think Apple needs to drop all but the 7s as the new entry phone, and the SE for the folks who desire the small form factor. Get rid of the regular iPad and cut the Pro 10,5 by $100. Get rid of the aTV4 and replace it with an Airplay dongle if they want something at the low end.

Two iMac sizes with a couple of processor options is fine. The iMac is from another planet, so I'm fine with that being out there. The Mac Pro shouldn't be left to die, nor should the Mini. Its pretty apparent to me - after buying a 2017 iMac to replace one from 5 years ago, and realizing that there isn't a significant performance difference - that Apple needs to concentrate on the desktop for a little bit.

I like my mini - and you’re right, Apple shouldn’t abandon it. That smaller Mac Pro is beautiful - but the mini does everything I need. I was really considering installing a server OS since it’s mostly what I use it as these days.. I do almost everything on my rMBP.
 
I like my mini - and you’re right, Apple shouldn’t abandon it. That smaller Mac Pro is beautiful - but the mini does everything I need. I was really considering installing a server OS since it’s mostly what I use it as these days.. I do almost everything on my rMBP.

Shortly after its introduction, I felt the Mac Pro was actually the Mac Mini Pro. This makes more sense now that there is going to be an iMac Pro. Originally the iMac was the consumer version of the desktop/deskside Mac Pro, but the iMac is widely accepted as a business computer now, so it makes sense to have a Pro version. The 2x2 grid Job demonstrated at one keynote over 15 years ago has now grown to 4x2, but it still makes sense.

Great s/n btw!

"....NEVER!!"

I'll have to watch that later.
 
Shortly after its introduction, I felt the Mac Pro was actually the Mac Mini Pro. This makes more sense now that there is going to be an iMac Pro. Originally the iMac was the consumer version of the desktop/deskside Mac Pro, but the iMac is widely accepted as a business computer now, so it makes sense to have a Pro version. The 2x2 grid Job demonstrated at one keynote over 15 years ago has now grown to 4x2, but it still makes sense.

Great s/n btw!

"....NEVER!!"

I'll have to watch that later.
Thanks... always great to see another fan of the genre. It is the Mac mini pro. I’ve been toying with the idea of getting one of the old Mac Pros and just setting it up as a stand-alone server... I miss the upgradability of the larger format. I hate external storage.. thundrbolt doesn’t make up for not having an SSD plus I bought a WD file server for my home network and just don’t trust it. I do find myself remoting into my mini a lot and desktop sharing. So, server seems like a good option. APFS may mess with that though.. I have to check into it.
 
Thanks... always great to see another fan of the genre. It is the Mac mini pro. I’ve been toying with the idea of getting one of the old Mac Pros and just setting it up as a stand-alone server... I miss the upgradability of the larger format.

Have you ever considered getting the older G5 tower and replacing the innards with modern stuff, and doing a Hackintosh? The ultimate in upgradeability.
 
Samsung do now though. They learnt from the mistake and take the matter extremely seriously.
https://www.samsung.com/us/explore/committed-to-quality/

Companies that don't learn from others and have similar issues in future have no-one to blame.
Samsung has to advertise this. I suspect for many people, they lost confidence after the Note 7. And all of that won't guarantee something else doesn't occur. How do you know what apples program is? They may have a more extensive program however, unfortunately there may have been an unforeseen issue. No one really knows except apple as I figure they are looking into this.
 
Samsung has to advertise this. I suspect for many people, they lost confidence after the Note 7. And all of that won't guarantee something else doesn't occur. How do you know what apples program is? They may have a more extensive program however, unfortunately there may have been an unforeseen issue. No one really knows except apple as I figure they are looking into this.

Well I haven't seen any issues with the S8, S8+ and Note 8 as yet, however quite a few reports for the newly released Apple phone have surfaced, with more to come I believe.

Samsung would know that another huge battery issue would be the end of their mobiles. What's the saying "Fool me one, shame one you, Fool me twice....."
 
You misunderstand the problem. The short-term focus on share price is what is destroying American companies. Decisions that will lead to better products often require slower profit growth. The easy path is to cheapen a product and drive up sort term profits for the win without regard to a company's well-being a decade into the future.

when I studied business in school, we were always tought that if you make a good product and can get word out, you may lose some money up front while you market and get word out, but if your product is truly great, those early losses make up for it.

now they're teaching that day 1 needs to be profitable or its a failure.

long for business planning with sustainability in mind has gone out the wayside for "PROFITS NOW!".

it will bite companies like Apple, (AND MANY OTHERS) if the quality drops to a point where people wake up and take notice. Ask Michael Dell how going public went for Dell.... until he had to buy back control in his own company to stop the rampant disease of wallstreet
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Chill people... we're only at iCON 3 :)
(iCON = APPLE DEFCON)

Here's the typical cycle for problems reported on Apple products:
1. A few members post reports of the problem, report it to Apple
2. No response from Apple
3. Increased number of people report the issue
4. No response from Apple
5. Apple apologists dismiss the reports as very rare, the result of trolling, or exaggeration by drama queens
6. Even more reports of the problem
7. No response from Apple
8. News of the problem hits blogs
9. Apple apologists dismiss the blogs as simply engaging in clickbait
10. No response from Apple
11. Those affected by the issue threaten a class-action lawsuit
12. Apple apologists decry the "sue happy" nature of American consumers
13. Apple acknowledges the legitimacy of the problem
14. Apple apologists are silent
15. Apple release an update to correct the problem
or
15a. They set up a "program" to address the problem.
16. Apple gains some positive publicity
17. Apple apologists applaud Apple for doing the "right thing". (for an issue that they said from day-1 was not actually an issue)
18. First hand experience with the “program” reveals very strict guidelines and restrictions that greatly reduce the number of affected customers that can participate in the program.

you forgot the 2 - 5 year delay before the program is created, so that most people will have either replaced their device by buying something new (or repeat buying the same product hoping for better results).
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When a company is as large as Apple, of course there’s going to be (probably Samsung) shills staging things like this to make the company look bad.

shills? really going to fall back to that one? there's even a macrumors forum poster in this very thread who bought an iPhone and posted pictures of the phone being split.

Don't call people shills just because they disagree with you. it actually helps them and hurts you
 
Apple isnt the company i used to know to many problems with products now days

Really? Have you forgotten iphone 3 battery explosions or iphone 4 reception problems that apple "solved" telling people they were holding the phone incorrectly? have you forgotten iphone was the last "smart" phone to have multitask? Apple is exactly the company you used to know... unless you are talking when Jobs got fired and Mac architecture and os was unique and the best available... Yeah, those days are over.
 
Many are anxiously awaiting the investigation conclusion.

http://www.businessinsider.com/fran...ne-ipad-may-cause-egyptair-plane-crash-2017-5

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Take off your apologist shades so you can see "assembled in China" "Huapu Technology (Changshu) Inc".


You dare call someone else an apologist in the same post where you try to blame Apple for taking down a passenger plane?
 
I can't get over how many Android people there are here. The only reason that the Note's were banned from flights was because they were catching on FIRE. Youtube videos of SUV's going up in flames didn't help. :)

Big difference between a swollen battery and it exploding in flames.

Heh...and don't call me an apologist...if there was a viable alternative to Apple or Android, I'd be giving it a hard look. :)
 
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