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"I couldn't have put this any better. The use of the iPhone OS just feels like a cop-out. I honestly believe that the success of the app store took them by surprise, and in their excitement they just decided to crowbar the iPhone OS into a tablet rather than custom-designing an OS that would've given techies a bit more freedom whilst still keeping things relatively simple. Now we're completely reliant on the app store and thus on what apps apple allow us to have. If this really is the future of computing, as some on this thread have put it, then it's a bleak one."

That's and excellent 2nd grade analysis.

But here's some reality instead.

- The iPhone OS was designed for this device, not the other way around. It's not some silly, amateurish cop-out as you so maturely describe.

- App Store success was designed and created. It's also directly related to Apple's success platform, aka, the iPhone OS. To say it took them by surprise is hilariously juvenile.

- Technies do not need more "freedom". People need capable devices, and this is one. They sold nearly 1 million devices yesterday. How many do you think were "technies" that showed up? Nobody cares about "techies", and nobody should. They aren't an actual category of consumer, but definitely a category of whiny P's.I.T.A.

- You act like the App Store is for some reason bad, which is absolutely absurd. The fact that some shifty developer can't brick thousands of iDevices with his terrible App is one of a million reason to be thankful for the App Store and Apple's approach to software distribution. Absolutely everything useful and imaginable is and will be available for this way. The worthless, the buggy, and the abusive, will not.

This is called a "win-win" in adult terms. If you believe you are "losing" somehow, by using the App Store, or "missing out" on better software, you're in a fantasy land.

"Nobody cares about "techies", and nobody should. They aren't an actual category of consumer, but definitely a category of whiny P's.I.T.A."

What a tool.

Go back to Jersey. Go back to school while you're at it.
 
I Want It

Played with one in the Apple Store yesterday. Wow, what a beautiful device!!!

Looked at photos, played part of a movie, looked at a book, surfed the web, and played a road race game.

The graphics are truly superb. The so-called short-comings of this device are non-issues for me because all I want is a smaller and more convenient of my MBP to lounge around the house with, read books in bed, act as a digital photo frame, etc.

And this fits the bill. :cool:
 
BS.

Ipad way: you're working on a 20-page report, a word processing document. You need some information contained in a 200-page pdf. So to get the info out of the pdf, you close your Pages document. Then open the pdf, search what you are looking for. Cut and paste. Then reopen your word processing document, find the spot you were last working in, and paste in the info. Need something else from the pdf? Have fun doing that 20 times in a row.

Multitask way: open both word processor and pdf. Switch between both, instantly, while they remain open and running -- side by side on your screen.

You tell me which is faster. Want to try again?

Obviously, the iPad wasn't meant to do serious work. It is really a hand(s) held media consuming device. So multitasking is not too important. For people who think this is anything more, they will find it clunky. It is really just an extension of your more capable desktop, as evidenced by its reliance on iTunes.
 
Obviously, the iPad wasn't meant to do serious work. It is really a hand(s) held media consuming device. So multitasking is not too important. For people who think this is anything more, they will find it clunky. It is really just an extension of your more capable desktop, as evidenced by its reliance on iTunes.


Congratulations! You've just won the dumbest post of the year award.
 
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I was so in awe holding it in the store, that I decided to buy two for my partner too. It's beautiful, it's new, and I'm excited to see the future versions, software and hardware of this product.

I do however am really pissed about the lack of Flash. I just think it's BS to have a web browser that you can't install third party plugins for.

I'll probably take the second one back because I still really don't know what to use the first one for.

Also, is the base model really worth $500?
 
I'm also a bit upset I had to pay $50.00 for "Things", then $10 for it on the iPhone, then another $20.00 for it on my iPad. I contacted them, and they were nice, but that is another issue. How many versions of the same app do I have to pay for, and if they say it's a "rewrite" or added new features, they can get away with charging again.

Well, I understand that paying more is seldom preferable, but it isn't free for the developer so I see no reason why it should be free for the customer.
 
Also, is the base model really worth $500?

I think more so than the other models being worth their selling price. Additional flash for storage is pretty cheap, each step up is at least marked up 100%. There shouldn't be any increase or very minimal for 3G enabled. The GSM chip and supporting logic can't be more than $10-$20. Plus with the recurring revenue generated, it should have been practically free.
 
Another thing is the more I think about how much I do on my Macbook vs what I cannot do on the iPad made me realize that once the newness wears off, i'll never touch it. Sorry Apple, I own pretty much every product you have released and I am a huge Apple fanboy (not ashamed to admit it), But this one is going back, Maybe if/when it runs a regular OSX and I can install all my stuff on it, then I will re-purchase

Hey, I wish we could get Terminal.app too... but it ain't gonna happen. However, we already knew such was the case going into this... so I find your newfound pessimism disingenuous. Quite the opposite, I'm looking forward to continued (if not endless) enjoyment from this device... and only going near my "non-toy" Macs when absolutely necessary.

It doesn't take a genius to see that the iPad will utterly dominate the n00b arena. But, even open-minded geeks can really get off on this thing (despite the tireless efforts of trolldom).

Star Walk for the iPad is as breathtaking as expected!!!

[posted from my iPad, natch]
 
iTunes vending machine!!!!!!!

Hope you all have deep wallets!!!!!!
 

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"I couldn't have put this any better. The use of the iPhone OS just feels like a cop-out. I honestly believe that the success of the app store took them by surprise, and in their excitement they just decided to crowbar the iPhone OS into a tablet rather than custom-designing an OS that would've given techies a bit more freedom whilst still keeping things relatively simple. Now we're completely reliant on the app store and thus on what apps apple allow us to have. If this really is the future of computing, as some on this thread have put it, then it's a bleak one."



"Nobody cares about "techies", and nobody should. They aren't an actual category of consumer, but definitely a category of whiny P's.I.T.A."

What a tool.


Go back to Jersey. Go back to school while you're at it.


Thanks man, but you might as well save your breath. The fanboys get very angry at any sort of discussion. Most of the posters on this board would consider themselves a techie so it shows his utter ignorance. He's probably a closet techie too but just hasn't the courage to come out yet!
 
Congratulations! You've just won the dumbest post of the year award.

Actually I agree with the post you are mocking. It's an extension of the desktop, not meant to replace the desktop. I'm love my iPad, I really enjoy it. I think it's a perfect execution of a media consumption device. Don't be upset apple didn't design the product you wanted. Why not go out, find a team of engineers and develop the tablet you want. You are a capable person, don't waste time on a discussion forum, whining about the fact you won't be buying this product. Either give a positive contribution or shut-it, because I'm tired of having to sort through posts from individuals like yourself to find useful posts.
 
There is a crowd out there that wants a tablet with Full OS X on it. But Apple is onto something.... because OS X in its full form now would suck on a Tablet device.... just as much as windows 7 does. The iPhone OS is build from the ground up to work on small platforms. Initially I said oh no a big iPhone but after you play with it and use it you see why Apple is on top now.

Couldn't agree with you more man!
 
question: If I bought software that is universal for my iPhone. do I have to buy it again when I buy an iPad?
 
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