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More Leopard Features Unveiled: Full-Screen QT, DVD Player, more

I don't think HDDVD/Blu-ray support is going to be as easy as installing a copy of Leopard.

You still have to implement AACS encryptions for both platform and BD+ for Blu-ray. Your graphics card has to accept these and support HDCP for output. If DVD player supports both I imagine that it'll take some other config changes to actually playback a pre-recorded movie.

ZFS support is nice. I once thought "Apple won't support ZFS" yet here we are with the support coming along nicely. Perfect timing too with Time Machine and 1TB drives becoming popular.
 
I have Final Cut Pro on my computer, which automatically gives you Quicktime Pro without paying extra for it... but I remember when I first got this computer... it was so annoying not to be able to use full screen or use Quicktime's export capabilities.
 
More iPhone Rumors! Just kidding...

vincebio said:
i almost collapsed on the floor and passed out when i saw a story about macs...
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I actually did... I was expecting something about the iPhone to pop up and when it didn't I passed out. When I came two I had a feeling of euphoria that could only be described as, "thank God it isn't about that dag on iPhone"

thejadedmonkey said:
Little things like this are going to make Leopard a really good and well rounded OS release I think.
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Which is what they should have been working on from the first place... now I have to wait 3 months more after this stupid phone to get the real stuff Apple should be investing in.

ITR 81 said:
Come on Apple and give us a R/W Hybrid HD DVD and Blu Ray drive.

I want a Mac Book Pro with this setup.
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This is what I wanted in the current SR MBP... all the whiners that wanted SR forget to mention that we wanted a real book with more than just a .04Ghz upgrade in processor speed and some cute little monitor upgrades. Some people actually wanted a real professional notebook that could give up Blue-Ray, HD-DVD, a 250GB HDD, built-in 3G, dual HDD on the 17", or a plethora of real innovative features. But if the kids are happy with their toys then all is good.
 
I'm getting more and more excited about 10.5. BluRay and HD-DVD support hopefully points to Apple products that have BluRay HD-DVD optical drives in the near future.
 
RoDe said:
I'm getting more and more excited about 10.5. BluRay and HD-DVD support hopefully points to Apple products that have BluRay HD-DVD optical drives in the near future.
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What we need is a slimline combo drive that is slot loaded. Apple would be all over that like a fly on horseshat.

Toshiba will be putting HD drives in all their laptops next year so the volume of product will be there. Sharp just announced a small Blue Laser diode that is tiny. The next generation product should be nice.

I don't really care about the recording capability of the formats. Time Machine will handle my backups for on or off site storage. Plus both formats are supposed to support encoding HD content to normal DVD-R discs. Meaning that you should be able to encode your own creations in HD to DVD-R for playback on a HD DVD or Blu-ray player. I'm hoping the next iLife supports this so that my HD DVD player can playback my own stuff (assuming I get a HD camcorder which is on my wishlist)
 
anyone else think OS 11 is going to be a multi-touch operating system? iphone is the first step to getting people used to the idea and set up then they release a brand new imac with OS 11 and you touch everything.

just a thought

I can't wait to see what 2008's "mind blowing" or "jaw dropping" device is, that one article talked about.
 
i know i'm not going to be waiting in line for ... wait... OH! A STORY THAT'S NOT ABOUT IPHONE! WOOOOOOOWWWW!!

(and it's about time for full screen quicktime)

:)
 
nuckinfutz said:
I don't think HDDVD/Blu-ray support is going to be as easy as installing a copy of Leopard.

You still have to implement AACS encryptions for both platform and BD+ for Blu-ray. Your graphics card has to accept these and support HDCP for output.
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Isn't AACS implemented in the drive? It goes without saying that you'll need a blue laser drive to be able to play the movies. It would also surprise me if the current Mac video cards can't support the required formats.

I'm not terribly familiar with how everything works, but isn't HDCP a system that prevents you from recording from the DVI port? If the hardware doesn't support HDCP then sure, don't output using the DVI port, but surely it should still all work on the internal display (this obviously only applies to laptops and iMacs).
 
The full screen option will definitely be a plus. I've been using an apple script to force standard QT to do this for years, but to have it built right in, wow!
 
Quicksilver867 said:
It's good that Blu-ray support is there, but now we wait for the hardware to back it up...:D
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nuckinfutz said:
What we need is a slimline combo drive that is slot loaded. Apple would be all over that like a fly on horseshat.

Toshiba will be putting HD drives in all their laptops next year so the volume of product will be there. Sharp just announced a small Blue Laser diode that is tiny. The next generation product should be nice.

I don't really care about the recording capability of the formats. Time Machine will handle my backups for on or off site storage. Plus both formats are supposed to support encoding HD content to normal DVD-R discs. Meaning that you should be able to encode your own creations in HD to DVD-R for playback on a HD DVD or Blu-ray player. I'm hoping the next iLife supports this so that my HD DVD player can playback my own stuff (assuming I get a HD camcorder which is on my wishlist)
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If you got the cash fastmac has your solution.

Nermal said:
Isn't AACS implemented in the drive? It goes without saying that you'll need a blue laser drive to be able to play the movies. It would also surprise me if the current Mac video cards can't support the required formats.

I'm not terribly familiar with how everything works, but isn't HDCP a system that prevents you from recording from the DVI port? If the hardware doesn't support HDCP then sure, don't output using the DVI port, but surely it should still all work on the internal display (this obviously only applies to laptops and iMacs).
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ICT and HDCP keep you from recording bit perfect digital streams (although ICT isn't turned on yet). On laptops HDCP isn't needed if the output is contrained to the local display. On desktops (read workstation in Apples case) you need a card that supports HDCP as all the current players downconvert to 540p otherwise.
AACS is in both the drive, disk (HD and BR) and software.
 
Am I the only one to have assumed as much about the full screen Quicktime thing? Maybe I was too fast to presume, but Quick Look was paraded as a means to watch video full screen without even opening Quicktime. The software behind it seemed likely to follow...
 
Nermal said:
Isn't AACS implemented in the drive? It goes without saying that you'll need a blue laser drive to be able to play the movies. It would also surprise me if the current Mac video cards can't support the required formats.

I'm not terribly familiar with how everything works, but isn't HDCP a system that prevents you from recording from the DVI port? If the hardware doesn't support HDCP then sure, don't output using the DVI port, but surely it should still all work on the internal display (this obviously only applies to laptops and iMacs).
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Yes I actually explained that incorrectly. AACS is the discs encryption for both HD DVD and Blu-ray. BD+ is an additional DRM scheme on Blu-ray. Only the HDCP need be supported by the graphics card and outputs.

I don't know how Laptop screens will work, perhaps Apple just shuts off DVI output on movies. We'll see.
 
Digital Skunk said:
This is what I wanted in the current SR MBP... all the whiners that wanted SR forget to mention that we wanted a real book with more than just a .04Ghz upgrade in processor speed and some cute little monitor upgrades. Some people actually wanted a real professional notebook that could give up Blue-Ray, HD-DVD, a 250GB HDD, built-in 3G, dual HDD on the 17", or a plethora of real innovative features. But if the kids are happy with their toys then all is good.
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Yeah, the problem is, it's expensive....the BluRay/HD DVD drive that is.....BluRay and HDDVD just started late last year....this product is still young...maybe 2 years later, we'll see a cheap player coming along.
 
Would they *PLEASE* just get it over with

.. and make Quicktime Pro standard, not some low-class nickel-dime purchase?
 
damacus said:
.. and make Quicktime Pro standard, not some low-class nickel-dime purchase?
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Yeah, I remember those years... ;)
In the OS9 era, QT was the (only) app that we could use to see (short) movies and it was free. You could even do cut and paste (!) and even save a movie in QT format! Those were great years... ;)

Now that we have (multiple) options, they charge for it... go figure... :rolleyes:
(I know, I know, the CODECS but still...)
 
Macrumors said:
Quicktime player has reportedly been updated to include support for full-screen movie playback without the need for a QuickTime Pro key.
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I don't know about anyone else, but that seems quite stingy. So you have to upgrade to the next OS to get this feature? Wouldn't a Quicktime update suffice?
 
A Pittarelli said:
blu ray in the new imacs perhaps?
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But as the new iMacs are reported to be out before Leopard, there would have to be an interim solution. Either that or Apple would have to say, "Here's your new Bluray player, but you won't be able to use it until you upgrade to Leopard in a couple months."

Though of course they could do like they did with wireless-N, and not tell us they're putting it in there, and then when we upgrade to the new software, "Surprise", you've got a DVD player upgrade too!
 
Peel said:
But as the new iMacs are reported to be out before Leopard, there would have to be an interim solution. Either that or Apple would have to say, "Here's your new Bluray player, but you won't be able to use it until you upgrade to Leopard in a couple months."

Though of course they could do like they did with wireless-N, and not tell us they're putting it in there, and then when we upgrade to the new software, "Surprise", you've got a DVD player upgrade too!
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That would be interesting. The real question: is Apple willing to eat the price of the drive? I mean they aren't cheap (cheapest I have seen for an internal is 400 bucks).
 
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