More Photos Point Toward 1,810 mAh Battery for 4.7-Inch iPhone 6

[tallscot]

Crappy Battery Life

I have an iPhone 5, the first one. It's about 1.5 years old.

It can't hold a phone call in my house, well. I keep hearing, "Can you hear me?" on the other end. The iPhone 3GS never had that problem in the same house.

I can't get Wifi in my master bedroom. I have to turn WiFi off so I can use LTE so I can surf the web in my bedroom. The 3GS didn't have that problem.

The Lock button broke on my after 1 year. Apple told me, in the store, it was out of warranty and they wanted over $200 to replace it. A short while after that, Apple admitted a lot of the original iPhones had this issue and offered to fix them over 5 days if your serial number was within a range of numbers. Mine was.

I never ever got a whole day of battery life out of the iPhone 5. It's worse now, after 1.5 years.

And when it says 11% battery life left, it's really, "It may shut down on you any second now." Because it jumps around from 11 to 0 or even 20 to 0 all the time.

In short, the iPhone 5 is total crap as a phone. If it's plugged into the wall and very close to a WiFi router and you aren't holding it with the "grip of death", it might be OK as a web browser...with Dolphin as our browser, because Safari stinks.

Apple's quality control is crap.

 

[Moto G]

Apple's quality control is crap.

Yeah, must be - they've got such a bad reputation for shoddy design and finish...

 

[tallscot]

Yeah, if signal is bad, there isn't much you can do, but the Facebook app is a huge hog. You could try deleting it and using the browser instead. I found that it works fine, still has messages, and won't drain your battery. Probably won't spy on you as much either. I have posted a few tips in this thread on battery saving which could help. You should look them up. Like disabling location services for iAds. Who wants marketers knowing their location? Or closing all apps and rebooting once in a while. And a few others.
PS: I would like a bigger battery too, I just can't believe anyone is having to charge twice a day. Totally out of the realm of my experience.

Here is a screen cap. I know I haven't used it much (a few texts, calls and some browsing), but it is Sunday...

This sounds very much like using a Windows PC several years ago. It was a big hassle and you had to jump through hoops to get it to work right.

The simple fact is it SHOULD JUST WORK. Right?

The iPhone 3GS was the last good iPhone. The iPhone 4 sucked and they all sucked after that in regards to being able to hold a phone call, not die of battery death after a few hours, connect to WiFi, etc.

Crap phones.

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Yeah, must be - they've got such a bad reputation for shoddy design and finish...

Design and finish relates to quality control, how?

 

[Treq]

This sounds very much like using a Windows PC several years ago. It was a big hassle and you had to jump through hoops to get it to work right.

The simple fact is it SHOULD JUST WORK. Right?

You're right, apple has gotten a little androidy in the last os. They shouldn't have a lot of this on by default. They should have a tighter leash on developers like Facebook to make their apps more efficient. Bugs like the one in the camera app should have never made it out of beta... ect ect. But to liken it windows is just an undeserved insult. There are no drivers to install that crash other programs. No norton to slow down everything. No blue screen of death that happens almost every time you install something. I mean, why not just call it Hitler and be done with it. All in all, It does a pretty good job. But you are right, it should just work.

Added a screen cap from my 4yo iPhone 4 that I now use as a media remote. Has a great battery life. Bluetooth on, wifi on, cellular off. Still gets email, iMessages, and some web surfing while on the couch. I'll charge it up in a few days... maybe next weekend.

 

[Moto G]

This sounds very much like using a Windows PC several years ago. It was a big hassle and you had to jump through hoops to get it to work right.

The simple fact is it SHOULD JUST WORK. Right?

The iPhone 3GS was the last good iPhone. The iPhone 4 sucked and they all sucked after that in regards to being able to hold a phone call, not die of battery death after a few hours, connect to WiFi, etc.

Crap phones.

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Design and finish relates to quality control, how?

DIRECTLY - that's what it's for.

 

[daftpunker909]

How on earth are you ending up needing to charge it during the day? If you start the day at 100% you need to use it insanely much, or with some really power hungry or really poor optimised apps with very high brightness on the screen for it not lasting through the day?

I for one charge it overnight, and then I will mostly end up having 30-60% when I end up going to bed depending on my usage and whether I had to use it in bright light so the display had to run at 100% brightness for a long period of time. I have yet to be able to go from 100% to under 10% no matter how much I use the phone during the day.

May be true in your case, but not everyone elses. My iphone has terrible battery capacity after 2 years, not to mention the battery management. My phone never lasts through the day without multiple recharges and often randomly switches off with (according to iOS) 30-40% left. Samsung is spot on with their wall huggers ads.

 

[Shakkan]

- but what happens when you go on vacation? --> put the phone down and start enjoy quality time with your family and friends
- Go out after work? --> enjoy a good conversation with whoever you're going out with instead of burying your eyes in the phone, which many people do these days
- play games with no access to a wall outlet until 10pm --> put the phone down and start living life

I'm sick of seeing people burying their eyes in the screen of smartphones and then complain about battery life. I use my phone moderately on purpose so that I can do other things in life and that automatically rid me of battery problems.

heavy smartphone usage = life needs adjusting. period.

Typical Apple apologist passing judgement to someone without knowing the facts.
Trust me, when I go on vacations with my wife, we do enjoy quality time but we also use our cell phones for some quick pictures, videos and also GPS to help us find our way. That's what the phone is for, right? At least that's what Apple shows in their ads.

Also, who said I'm a heavy user and use the phone while I'm going out? No, I use it during commute and during work but if I go out after home and come late, the phone might die before I come back home and thus become useless.

Here's a fact for everyone:
The iPhone battery life might be sufficient for you but it flat out SUCKS *compared to the competition*, and with the premium price we pay for Apple stuff, we expect the best. Therfore, I'd expect Apple to at least beat the competition with the iPhone 6.

 

[Treq]

Typical Apple apologist passing judgement to someone without knowing the facts.
Trust me, when I go on vacations with my wife, we do enjoy quality time but we also use our cell phones for some quick pictures, videos and also GPS to help us find our way. That's what the phone is for, right? At least that's what Apple shows in their ads.

Also, who said I'm a heavy user and use the phone while I'm going out? No, I use it during commute and during work but if I go out after home and come late, the phone might die before I come back home and thus become useless.

Here's a fact for everyone:
The iPhone battery life might be sufficient for you but it flat out SUCKS *compared to the competition*, and with the premium price we pay for Apple stuff, we expect the best. Therfore, I'd expect Apple to at least beat the competition with the iPhone 6.

The battery might be bigger but they need it to deal with the battery suck that is android. iOS needs some work to make it better, but day and a half life with average use is no problem for an iPhone 5. 2 days with a iPhone 4. If you charge every night and don't make multiple 3hr long phone calls per day. You should get at least a day out of it without charging. If not there is something wrong with your phone or one of your apps. Now a bigger battery would be nice, but the iPhone 5 is already a little uncomfortable to keep in my front pocket. a 4.7in one is going to be even worse. I'd rather not have it be any bigger just so I can get a second day's use out of it. I can just charge up at night as usual as long as the life doesn't get worse.

 

[86939]

How on earth are you ending up needing to charge it during the day? If you start the day at 100% you need to use it insanely much, or with some really power hungry or really poor optimised apps with very high brightness on the screen for it not lasting through the day?

I for one charge it overnight, and then I will mostly end up having 30-60% when I end up going to bed depending on my usage and whether I had to use it in bright light so the display had to run at 100% brightness for a long period of time. I have yet to be able to go from 100% to under 10% no matter how much I use the phone during the day.

Yes, because your anecdotal usage pattern should be the standard for everyone. It sounds to me like you barely use your phone at all. Here's an anecdote from my morning:

I charged my iPhone 5 overnight. I got up and got ready to run a decent distance run this morning. I used Runkeeper app for my gps and also listened to a podcast via my bluetooth headset. On my run, which lasted a little over an hour, I stopped to take a video which I then proceeded to text my wife. I also made a couple of quick phone calls. I then went out with my wife to eat breakfast after my run. I surfed some at the restaurant while waiting for our food. We then went back to the house.

After we got back, what had been a fully charged phone at 8 am was now down to 31% by lunch. Apple really needs to increase the battery life in their phones or active people like me will have to find an alternative. I can't be constantly plugging my phone in all day.

 

[hummus]

Yes, because your anecdotal usage pattern should be the standard for everyone. It sounds to me like you barely use your phone at all. Here's an anecdote from my morning:

I charged my iPhone 5 overnight. I got up and got ready to run a decent distance run this morning. I used Runkeeper app for my gps and also listened to a podcast via my bluetooth headset. On my run, which lasted a little over an hour, I stopped to take a video which I then proceeded to text my wife. I also made a couple of quick phone calls. I then went out with my wife to eat breakfast after my run. I surfed some at the restaurant while waiting for our food. We then went back to the house.

After we got back, what had been a fully charged phone at 8 am was now down to 31% by lunch. Apple really needs to increase the battery life in their phones or active people like me will have to find an alternative. I can't be constantly plugging my phone in all day.

GPS really does kill the battery rapidly. I was a passenger with a friend today and used Waze on my phone (5c) to navigate to and from a location about 15 minutes away and within the ~30 minutes of travel and a brief stop I had lost just under 20% of my battery life.

Personally I almost never have an issue with the battery myself, but I typically am in and out of my car a couple of times a day and since I use Waze religiously I have a dash mount with a lightning connector so every time I'm in my car my phone is mounted and charging. If my lifestyle were different I could definitely see the battery life being a problem.

 

[fertilized-egg]

Here's a fact for everyone:
The iPhone battery life might be sufficient for you but it flat out SUCKS *compared to the competition*, and with the premium price we pay for Apple stuff, we expect the best. Therfore, I'd expect Apple to at least beat the competition with the iPhone 6.

No, the premium price for Apple doesn't guarantee the best battery life, far from it. Apple typically makes products that look aesthetically pleasing, well built with premium materials, and mostly cutting edge technology. None of that has to do with having the best battery life. In fact many of those are directly against having good battery life.

Case in point. The Android phone with probably the best battery life isn't some top-of-the-line flagship. It's a mid range device from Huawei. The cheapskate Moto G beats out many of the more expensive phones in battery life as well.

Typical Apple apologist passing judgement to someone without knowing the facts.

The fact is that Apple has been making similar decisions for a long time now. That does not make Apple's decision the correct one for every customer, and many will complain about the battery life, rightly so, but Apple will not likely compromise on this so easily given their history on prioritizing the design. Furthermore if the rumor is correct you'll have a choice to buy the larger iPhone with a larger battery.

 

[Treq]

Yes, because your anecdotal usage pattern should be the standard for everyone. It sounds to me like you barely use your phone at all. Here's an anecdote from my morning:

I charged my iPhone 5 overnight. I got up and got ready to run a decent distance run this morning. I used Runkeeper app for my gps and also listened to a podcast via my bluetooth headset. On my run, which lasted a little over an hour, I stopped to take a video which I then proceeded to text my wife. I also made a couple of quick phone calls. I then went out with my wife to eat breakfast after my run. I surfed some at the restaurant while waiting for our food. We then went back to the house.

After we got back, what had been a fully charged phone at 8 am was now down to 31% by lunch. Apple really needs to increase the battery life in their phones or active people like me will have to find an alternative. I can't be constantly plugging my phone in all day.

That is pretty heavy use. That looks like a good 4 hrs of pretty heavy use. At lest the first hour you were streaming audio from the internet, then streaming it back to your headset. Calculating your exact position on earth from satellite signals, all while pinging for wifi networks and cell towers. Then, later, you recorded a 1080p video, processed it, and uploaded it to a server and listened for a reply to say it was sent. Then you digitized your voice and sent that stream over a radio frequency while receiving another signal and decoded it, multiple times to and from transceivers probably a mile away. Then you sent multiple requests for info to the internet and listened for the replies and processed their digital code into a usable format to read. Thats a lot of stuff for a tiny computer to do in 4 hrs. I think 31% is a little lower than you should have been on an iphone 5 after all that but you might have been a bad service zone or maybe you didn't close the camera app when you were done which can drain the battery quickly (an ios7 bug) I'd say you should have been around 50% at that point.

edit: Also, you probably wouldn't have faired better with an Android phone under those circumstances, probably worse in fact, unless you bought one of those giant phablets they sell. Not the best to take on a 1hr jog. And you would have to deal with android...

 

[cdmoore74]

iPhone 6 NEEDS to have all day battery. I am tired of charging the iPhone 5s during the day.

I gotta say that while I'm a Android lover (3 removable batteries for my Note 3 keeps me rocking) I like the fact that you guys have some pretty nice battery case options. Negative is that it will cost you.

 

[Treq]

iPhone 6 NEEDS to have all day battery. I am tired of charging the iPhone 5s during the day.

The iPhone 5 does, no reason the 6 shouldn't.

 

[Millah]

I imagine if most of you complaining about batt life just did a fresh restore of your phone and only reinstalled apps you WANT, you'd see a big difference. While iOS is good, it can't help having tons of apps installed/deleted and accumulating crust over the years. I don't know what apps or things cause it, but I know when my current backup is running for over a year, my batt life decreases. I generally tend to start each generation on a fresh restore.

I use my phone heavy, a lot of battery sucking usage like games and LTE browsing, I have every service turned on including frequent locations which uses a bit of batt, and I also have my brightness above 50%. I rarely ever had my phone drain before nighttime when I'm at home. Typical heavy usage day (like today) I find my battery low around 10% when I'm at home for the night, before I go to bed. So I just have to plug it in a little earlier before bed.

Other than that, I can't imagine what you would be doing more than what I do playing games that would cause your phone to be completely drained in the afternoon. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I just find it hard to believe there is such a wide discrepancy, and it not being an issue with your iOS draining batt quicker due to inefficiency or bloating.

 

[MyDataMyProbs]

How old are you? did you ever have a pager? go back to a time when we didn't have these amazing little computers in our pocket and stop complaining so much. You know you could always pretend like we didn't have this technology and live your life just fine like older people have done(i honestly think it would be a better life not having this new technology, less living more staring at a screen/media consumption). But ya, the 5s battery life is fine if you look at it for what it is. Just be happy you have what you have...

I love this. "up" x10 not for being an "apple-apologist" but for recognizing the many, many functions an iPhone does throughout the day. The infant above him is making the phone sound like if the phone can't achieve 10+ (multi-battery) draining activities then the phone sucks. I would grade myself as a "normal" user. by that I use my phone as a business phone, emails, calls, texts, and the occasional social media. My phone lasts me all day with enough charge to make it home to either recharge or call it quits and go to bed. either way my phone doesn't fail me. and I'm on the i5 a 2 year old phone.

Point of my story: QUIT BIT***** about battery you little kids when all you do is watch videos and look at irreverent stuff on the internet. THAT IS THE POINT OF A FULL BLOWN COMPUTER. the smart phone (at this stage) is to help relieve you from a desktop and help you while in between. nothing more. it's first and foremost priority is to make calls, which it does very well (minus i4) depending carrier and where you are located.

QUIT COMPLAINING. 99/100 people on this forum will buy the next iPhone because they know how awesome it will be.

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Signal strength can be a huge factor. In my case, my iPhone 5 can go from 100% to 0% overnight without me touching the phone. The reason being our cellular coverage is terrible and the phone struggles to receive notifications or check for new email. (of course, turning off cellular data fixes the issue)

I'm sorry for this but...


HOW IN ANY WORLD IS THAT APPLEs FAULT.

I mean seriously. either your job sucks or your house does. either way, change it

EDIT: terrible signal accounts for A LOT of drained battery. talk to the people who wasted your battery, not the people who make it

 

[MyDataMyProbs]

and for my last post. a lot of my Firenze have android. but honestly, not matter which phone, ther phones battery DEGRADES soooo much faster than mine. period.

 

[lars666]

it's first and foremost priority is to make calls

No. Simply no. It was the first and foremost priority of the Nokia 3210. Not the iPhone or any other smartphone as we know them today.

 

[ionjohn]

Apple's expertise on battery life? My iPhone, and my previous iPhone battery life has sucked. Especially this latest one with iOS7.

that's because the battery is so small

 

[CFreymarc]

Who in Apple has their heads up their collective butts making the iPhone thinner and thinner? Just make it 5.0-mm thicker, have a thicker battery and we all will have a good day long charge.

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I have an iPhone 5, the first one. It's about 1.5 years old.

It can't hold a phone call in my house, well. I keep hearing, "Can you hear me?" on the other end. The iPhone 3GS never had that problem in the same house.

I can't get Wifi in my master bedroom. I have to turn WiFi off so I can use LTE so I can surf the web in my bedroom. The 3GS didn't have that problem.

The Lock button broke on my after 1 year. Apple told me, in the store, it was out of warranty and they wanted over $200 to replace it. A short while after that, Apple admitted a lot of the original iPhones had this issue and offered to fix them over 5 days if your serial number was within a range of numbers. Mine was.

I never ever got a whole day of battery life out of the iPhone 5. It's worse now, after 1.5 years.

And when it says 11% battery life left, it's really, "It may shut down on you any second now." Because it jumps around from 11 to 0 or even 20 to 0 all the time.

In short, the iPhone 5 is total crap as a phone. If it's plugged into the wall and very close to a WiFi router and you aren't holding it with the "grip of death", it might be OK as a web browser...with Dolphin as our browser, because Safari stinks.

Apple's quality control is crap.

That or your carrier is cheap.

 

[wigby]

ipad 3 and 4 were bigger and heavier than iPad 1 and 2. they had almost twice the battery because of retina display. nobody complained (at least people i know) because it was worth it (same 10 hours). so yeah, the story is not always the same.

3 and 4 were actually lighter than 1 and the same weight as 2. They were also thinner than 1 but not 2. But battery was never an issue with iPads for anyone I know. I would even go so far as to say Apple can take away a few hours of use if it means a thinner and lighter iPad. I would not go so far to suggest the same for the iPhone however.

 

[deviant]

3 and 4 were actually lighter than 1 and the same weight as 2. They were also thinner than 1 but not 2. But battery was never an issue with iPads for anyone I know. I would even go so far as to say Apple can take away a few hours of use if it means a thinner and lighter iPad. I would not go so far to suggest the same for the iPhone however.

Just checked it, 3 and 4 a little lighter than 1 and actually heavier than the 2. The point is, it's ok to not always go thinner and thinner. They are obsessed with it. Look at the iMac, as pointless and useless shrinking as it can be. But hey, whatever. Sooner or later you just won't be able to make it thinner cause it will probably become impossible to hold it comfortably in your hand, so it will go reverse, just like the flat UI is making a comeback.

 

[jonnysods]

Please give me decent battery life. Always having to stick my 5S on the charger....

 

[xro78]

There is a way of getting better battery life
Performance...get a life!!!!

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I'm referring to 5s only

 

[Shakkan]

There is a way of getting better battery life
Performance...get a life!!!!

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I'm referring to 5s only

Please remember that not everyone flips burgers at McD's.
Those people have a life, they just use their phone for more than Facebook and SMS.