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If true, it's not good. As a user, I would prefer a bigger battery over thinness. I wish Apple would put the user first.
 
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Do those Apple apologists at least realize what they are? "omg my iPhone 5 lasts 2 days!" If your iPhone 5 or 5s lasts 2 days or even a _full_ day, you probably could do fine with a 15$ flip phone. ;p

For some people, all-day battery means during work hours because they plug it in when they come back home but what happens when you go on vacation? Go out after work? Use GPS, play games with no access to a wall outlet until 10pm? You're screwed. Period, end of story.

If the battery is indeed 1810mAh, I'll be very disappointed. I currently own a Nexus 5 and I'm almost disappointed by the battery life, but that phone was dirt cheap. I plan on buying the iPhone 6 but geez... who cares about that 1mm? Bragging rights in exchange of crappy battery life? :\

Wow. All day means all day. I use it all day. 12 hr work days for me are the norm and I never plug in until I go to bed. I very rarely have seen the 20% warning much less been out of juice completely. I text, surf, take pictures, use the gps. If I go on vacation my usage drops so my battery life is even better. You must have some badly written app that is sucking all your juice.
 
Well, I have an iPhone 5 and it can easily last a whole day. If you aren't getting past 3pm something is wrong. There might be an app running that is killing your battery. Unless you are constantly talking on it, or working under ground all day, you should make it past 3pm. Do you work the midnight shift and get off work around noon?

In case you think that you are actually part of anything like the majority, feel free to take a look at this poll. And before you say that it must be a specially selected group of people who have answered it, go ahead and post a link to your own Facebook page and see how many responses you can add to it to tilt the results back to the way you think they should be. All of the responses have been gathered in that way so far, from these forums and from Facebook posts. I'm curious if we can somehow find a population of people wear more than 10% are pleased with the current battery life.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5L2MR7Q
 
If true, it's not good. As a user, I would prefer a bigger battery over thinness. I wish Apple would put the user first.
I'd say that Apple's marketing department would disagree. THINNEST EVER sells (so they think)... and can be beaten to death on stage, in the unavoidable introduction video with Jony Ive and the product presentation on their website.
But... personally, I'm totally with you here. I like a thin for factor but it does not need to be the thinnest.. I'd give a mm for an hour more ;)
 
In case you think that you are actually part of anything like the majority, feel free to take a look at this poll. And before you say that it must be a specially selected group of people who have answered it, go ahead and post a link to your own Facebook page and see how many responses you can add to it to tilt the results back to the way you think they should be. All of the responses have been gathered in that way so far, from these forums and from Facebook posts. I'm curious if we can somehow find a population of people wear more than 10% are pleased with the current battery life.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5L2MR7Q

That poll has nothing to do with what I was talking about. That's what people want, not what they already have. I would like a bigger battery too. Who wouldn't? I don't need it, but it would be nice. Although the phone is kinda big already and they are about to make it bigger. It's already starting to get uncomfortable to keep in my front pocket. And an additional 6 hrs of battery life is more like 20% not 50%. Seriously, what are you people doing with your phones to make them die in 12 hrs. Do you ever put it down? Are you constantly watching netflix on the subway?
 
- but what happens when you go on vacation? --> put the phone down and start enjoy quality time with your family and friends
- Go out after work? --> enjoy a good conversation with whoever you're going out with instead of burying your eyes in the phone, which many people do these days
- play games with no access to a wall outlet until 10pm --> put the phone down and start living life

I'm sick of seeing people burying their eyes in the screen of smartphones and then complain about battery life. I use my phone moderately on purpose so that I can do other things in life and that automatically rid me of battery problems.

heavy smartphone usage = life needs adjusting. period.


And I am sick of you telling me that I use my phone too much. *puke*
 
How on earth are you ending up needing to charge it during the day? If you start the day at 100% you need to use it insanely much, or with some really power hungry or really poor optimised apps with very high brightness on the screen for it not lasting through the day?

I for one charge it overnight, and then I will mostly end up having 30-60% when I end up going to bed depending on my usage and whether I had to use it in bright light so the display had to run at 100% brightness for a long period of time. I have yet to be able to go from 100% to under 10% no matter how much I use the phone during the day.

My typical day includes about 30-40 minutes streaming music over LTE on my work commute. From there I answer any number of emails and texts (rarely some calls). I go home and stream another 1.5-2 hours of music, over wifi this time, in the gym.

After all that I am usually under 20% at the end of the day. When I get a chance I make sure to plug in during the day but sometimes that's not an option. I carry a battery backup just in case.

My brightness is set to auto and I really don't use anything but stock apps during my workday. My thinking is that the battery drain is by and large due to the screen.

Anyway, battery life is doable for me. If anything I would cut out the music streaming if I absolutely had to. But I certainly wouldn't mind additional battery life. I am not wishing or hoping for a phone that lasts three days, but something that would allow me to ditch the backup battery and still have confidence that my phone will last me without problems through the day would be nice.

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- but what happens when you go on vacation? --> put the phone down and start enjoy quality time with your family and friends
- Go out after work? --> enjoy a good conversation with whoever you're going out with instead of burying your eyes in the phone, which many people do these days
- play games with no access to a wall outlet until 10pm --> put the phone down and start living life

I'm sick of seeing people burying their eyes in the screen of smartphones and then complain about battery life. I use my phone moderately on purpose so that I can do other things in life and that automatically rid me of battery problems.

heavy smartphone usage = life needs adjusting. period.

I can see where you're going here, and you make some valid points, but a growing number of people rely on their smartphone to put good on the table. A portion of those people basically work on their phone. Much of what I do couldn't be done in the same capacity without my phone.

All that said it is certainly sad to see people out to dinner all tapping away at ther phones rather than enjoying conversation, as just one simple example of what phones have done to our societies.
 
Loses it's credibility.

It's kind of the excuse your mother always said, "Because I said so!"
Well this is, "Because the analyst said so!!"

:rolleyes:

On the other hand, my mother was right about 98% of the time.

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iPhone 5S: 1,550mAH battery; 4.0 inch screen.
iPhone 6: 1800mAH battery; 4.7 inch screen

1800mAH is about 16% more capacity than 1,550mAH
4.7 inch screen is about 14% bigger than 4.0 inch screen.

A8-Processor: Maybe 5% more efficient (real life effect).

End result: Same overall battery life performance (IMO), about 7% better than the 5S.

The 5.5" model on the other hand is going to have hours more battery per charge.

There isn't really any way to realistically estimate this before any of it is out. Testing is the only way to have any idea within the ballpark.
 
1800 for 4.7
2900 for 5.5 :eek:
Does it mean that only the 5.5" will get at least a FullHD resolution ?
 
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You forgot the higher resolution.

Pretty irrelevant, as smaller pixels use less energy per.. well, pixel. And it adds little strain on the GPU, save in games.

The 32 MB DDR original Radeon (166 MHz CPU/Memory) shoved into the 33 MHz PCI slot in my 1998 Beige G3 was capable of running OS X quite smoothly with a Quartz Extreme PCI hack enabled at 1600x1200. I'm not sure why people keep bringing up resolution as though it matters or requires enormous amounts of power. It doesn't.

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1800 for 4.7
2900 for 5.5 :eek:
Does it that only the 5.5" will get at least a FullHD resolution ?

In English, please?
 
I get the feeling this is for the 5c and that the 2000+ mAh battery is for the 4.7 version. The larger battery exists so it's gotta be for something.

Decent increase in watt hours anyway!
 
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I get the feeling this is for the 5c and that the 2000+ mAh battery is for the 4.7 version. The larger battery exists so it's gotta be for something.

Decent increase in watt hours anyway!

That's my guess too, we've seen three larger battery sizes quoted so they could be for the 4", 4.7" and 5.5" phones. We'll see in September.
 
Get over yourself! You are one of those dummies who push technology past its limits. If you want a huge ass battery, go buy one. Buy a mophie! You spend too much time on your damn phone... or if you don't want to put it down, guess what? You have to charge it.

I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry. Cold Fusion hasn't made its way to your precious iphone. If you don't like it, buy a cheaper, heavier, plastic phone! Those DO exist.:mad:

Haha well sorry I use my iPhone (A smartphone, a mini computer, not just a phone. A device that has way more capabilities and performs everything better than a cheaper, heavier, plastic phone that can't do anywhere near as much as I want my iPhone to do) way more than you do. Or like to use devices to their full capabilities.
I do have one of those mobile battery chargers (charge it up, keep it on a coat pocket), and plug in at work.
My battery doesn't last as long as others, and certainly not as long as the times apple advertise. Clear difference between my 6 hours of usage and empty, and the person who posted on here with 9 hours usage and 6% spare.
That's my issue.
Technology is supposed to be pushed, not just sit there looking pretty.
I'm one of those who buys an iPhone for what it can do better than other phones, not because it's an apple or because looks good.
I buy it to use it.

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My typical day includes about 30-40 minutes streaming music over LTE on my work commute. From there I answer any number of emails and texts (rarely some calls). I go home and stream another 1.5-2 hours of music, over wifi this time, in the gym.

After all that I am usually under 20% at the end of the day. When I get a chance I make sure to plug in during the day but sometimes that's not an option. I carry a battery backup just in case.

My brightness is set to auto and I really don't use anything but stock apps during my workday. My thinking is that the battery drain is by and large due to the screen.

Anyway, battery life is doable for me. If anything I would cut out the music streaming if I absolutely had to. But I certainly wouldn't mind additional battery life. I am not wishing or hoping for a phone that lasts three days, but something that would allow me to ditch the backup battery and still have confidence that my phone will last me without problems through the day would be nice.

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I can see where you're going here, and you make some valid points, but a growing number of people rely on their smartphone to put good on the table. A portion of those people basically work on their phone. Much of what I do couldn't be done in the same capacity without my phone.

All that said it is certainly sad to see people out to dinner all tapping away at ther phones rather than enjoying conversation, as just one simple example of what phones have done to our societies.

Yep. I put it down when eating. It's down when watching a movie at home (maybe the occasional reply to a message), and off completely in the cinema.
If I'm out for the day, it'll be in my pocket and just used to reply to messages, or take a picture (not selfie!).
I do use it at work on breaks, and the occasional check whilst waiting for something to happen at work. I use it to play games on the loo (never been a paper reader, plus cheese intolerance and low signal in there, maybe that's my biggest drain), and mostly use it in the evening when somebody else is watching something crap on tv.
I put it down when it needs to be.

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That's my guess too, we've seen three larger battery sizes quoted so they could be for the 4", 4.7" and 5.5" phones. We'll see in September.

Would be good if somebody takes one of these batteries and compares it to currently 5S or 5C battery, or see if the 1800 would fit in the 5S or 5C (sure, internals could change for the lower end option, but won't be far off).
And see how it compares against the logic board and cases we've seem for the 6. Anyone good at scaling photos to match?
 
It's the whole "my battery lasts all day already and has % spare because I ration my usage" argument that annoys me.
It's actual usage time that counts.
I could ration my usage and it last all day, but I'd only have 2 hours of usage at the end of the day.
Us battery complainers want more than that. We want it to last all day after actually using it, for 4, 5, 6 or more hours.
A person's phone lasting "all day" isn't a good measurement without more info, like usage and standby times out of the settings app.

Oh look and I'm with you... I don't think that smartphones have great battery life. IMO improving battery life is far more important than increasing screen

"We want it to last all day after actually using it, for 4, 5, 6 or more hours."

Seriously WTF do you do with your phone if it's not lasting 4 hours a day? If you've got a 5S and that is SERIOUSLY the case (and you're not watching an HD movie or playing a demanding game during those 4 hours) then take it into the Apple store.

When I say 'ration' it's more like... I quit un-used apps, turn location services/WiFi/Bluetooth off when they are not needed and tend to keep it in my pocket when I'm at work (where I'll be focusing on work rather than fiddling with my phone funnily enough).

If you're old enough to be paying electricity bills...etc you'll understand that it's pretty common practice to turn off things that are wasting energy. As much of an inconvenience as it may be, the same thing applies to phones.

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I'm with you. Phone batteries really need to improve!!! Remember when 'stupid' phones lasted for a week on 1 charge? What's so stupid about that?!?!?

However, I think Apple's pretty good when it comes to battery life on a comparative basis. We're not gonna make phones last longer by making bigger screens and squishing bigger batteries in. We already have huge batteries in smartphones!!! Phones need to use less power, be smarter about using power and well... stop getting bigger, faster and more feature packed/thirsty!!!

IMO if Apple could make a phone the size of the 5S that isn't as fast as 'high-end' androids but is still zippy. Say iPhone 5 speed/screen size/feature set... and can last for a week then it would be 1 hot product. Make it Apple!! Don't be fooled by Samsung's bigger screens and usage of more, higher clocked CPUs. Battery's where it's all at!! If you do it well enough, they won't be able to copy!
 
Dont forget the increased resolution too. Will make the gpu works harder thus decreased battery life. :(

Why not make the same thickness as iphone 5s and put a bigger battery like 2800mah.
 
Pretty irrelevant, as smaller pixels use less energy per.. well, pixel. And it adds little strain on the GPU, save in games.

It is not pretty irrelevant if you want to perform your phone on higher resolution but same performance, especially not on games and videos.
 
Don't really care about the battery capacity, I care more about the battery life. As long as that is increased, it's fine. I don't think that's impossible, remember the iPad Air in which Apple increased the speed and battery life while reducing the capacity.

Compared to the iPhone 5S, the 6 will have:

- A slightly larger screen (38% larger)
- A slightly larger battery (16% larger)
- A less power hungry SoC (rumoured)
- A less power hungry screen (rumoured)

I think battery life could actually be increased over the 5S substantially.

Precisely. It's not just the mAh, but more importantly the devices needs. The 6 is no 5S. People get too hung up on mAh numbers of the battery. :apple:
 
you're doing the same thing in reverse. it CAN handle way more than you're describing in my experience and many people's experience, and you just refuse to believe that because it's different from your experience.

I understand and believe that you have battery life problems. Can you understand and believe that I (and many others) don't?

Of course i can, and i explained that. It can't handle way more than i'm describing. It never could. My current iPhone is the the ONLY iPhone i've had in all these years. Anyway, I can show you a screenshot of 20 hours usage, doesn't mean anything. All i have to do is put it in airplane mode, start playing music and shut off the screen. It still counts as usage, but who are we kidding? I'm talking about a FULL DAY HEAVY usage. I want the same autonomy iPad has. Now THAT would be amazing. iPad's battery is amazing. iPhone 4s - 1400 mah. iPad 3 and 4 had a.... wait for it.... 11560 mah!!!!!!! EIGHT times more. EIGHT.
 
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And then when you consider that my friend working with me in that building, in the same spot, has a GS5 on AT&T and somehow manages to eke 2 days from it

While I agree that having a larger capacity battery would be better than a smaller one. I have never been able to go 2 days with my Note 3. Maybe in the beginning I could go a day and a half(very impressive I agree). Almost a year later, I can barely make it towards the end of the day, and I make sure a charger is ALWAYS present. With that being said, Apple is very good at making sure their latest SOC is energy efficient. I couldn't imagine Apple would invest all of their money into R&D to release a redesign of their greatest money maker only to have poor battery life. I'll wait to reserve judgement until Apple announces something. With that being said, I'm hoping to go back to the iPhone if they release a 5.5" iPhone 6. Pretty stoked really. :D
 
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