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Of course i can, and i explained that. It can't handle way more than i'm describing. It never could. My current iPhone is the the ONLY iPhone i've had in all these years. Anyway, I can show you a screenshot of 20 hours usage, doesn't mean anything. All i have to do is put it in airplane mode, start playing music and shutting off the screen. It still counts as usage, but who are we kidding? I'm talking about a FULL DAY HEAVY usage. I want the same autonomy iPad has. Now THAT would be amazing. iPad's battery is amazing. iPhone 4s - 1400 mah. iPad 3 and 4 had a.... wait for it.... 11560 mah!!!!!!! EIGHT times more. EIGHT.

Agreed. Phone with ipad like battery life would be a holy grail for smartphone.
 
Agreed. Phone with ipad like battery life would be a holy grail for smartphone.

Eminently doable. Just make it as thick as the 4S. That should be plenty of extra thickness to allow a battery roughly twice the size of the current one. I would pay an extra $100 for such a beast.
 
The most exciting thing is to get 2000 mah work all day heavy use. So quick charging time with very long battery life. That would be awesome. I would gladly pay $300 more for the iphone 6 that has the same thickness of the 5s with ipad like battery life. Wish apple will release iphone max. Thicker, same spec with more battery life.
 
Seriously WTF do you do with your phone if it's not lasting 4 hours a day? If you've got a 5S and that is SERIOUSLY the case (and you're not watching an HD movie or playing a demanding game during those 4 hours) then take it into the Apple store.

When I say 'ration' it's more like... I quit un-used apps, turn location services/WiFi/Bluetooth off when they are not needed and tend to keep it in my pocket when I'm at work (where I'll be focusing on work rather than fiddling with my phone funnily enough).

If you're old enough to be paying electricity bills...etc you'll understand that it's pretty common practice to turn off things that are wasting energy. As much of an inconvenience as it may be, the same thing applies to phones.

The 4 was a stretch. I've had it only last 4:xx hours a handful of times, and really have no idea what happened there. Probably full brightness or something.
5 + 6 is more common. I play games, check facebook (I'm learning that's using way more power than it should), newsreaders, safari for videos, emails.
I do pay the bills, and am actually that way with switching stuff off. But it's that rationing you mention that I don't like, but I accept it. When I get a new phone, I start out leaving everything as it is - Apple wouldn't leave stuff on by default if they think it'll have an adverse affect, right? Eventually I'll switch off bit by bit.

I do think, more than anything, that it's signal related. I know at home I get the usage closer to 6, possibly more. At work it's closer to 5. At my girlfriend's it's top end 5, closer to 6.

Today I'm at 11% after 4:35 usage. I'll probably get another 35 minutes out of this, reaching about 5:10 usage. I'm at the girlfriend's today (whilst she's at work), but have spent most of the day in dining room where the signal is the worst.

Still, this usage is far better than the S4 I used for a while. I got rid of that because of battery life, and came back to iPhone.
Once iOS 8 is out, I'll keep an eye on battery life, then see whether my iPhone needs taking in or not. This one is my second, and wasn't any better than the first (dropped my first one on carpet and the screen stopped working..).

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Ah background refresh. That's one that keeps catching me out. I leave it on for some apps that I know don't need to refresh often. Switch if off for the ones I'm not bothered about background refreshing (gmail, facebook, newsreader). Facebook is usually switched off, but it was switched on when I checked just now. That'll be because I keep uninstalling/reinstalling to get around the messenger kerfuffle
 
Eminently doable. Just make it as thick as the 4S. That should be plenty of extra thickness to allow a battery roughly twice the size of the current one. I would pay an extra $100 for such a beast.

Right? The thing is, 4 and 4S had that stupid glass on the back like on the front, which was useless to say the least. Now make the back cover like the one iPhone 5 has (thin aluminium, right?) and then add the battery till you reach the 4s thickness. I use my 4s with a cover, and i still prefer it to the thinner 5. I don't know, feel more solid and stuff.
 
Anyway, I can show you a screenshot of 20 hours usage, doesn't mean anything. All i have to do is put it in airplane mode, start playing music and shutting off the screen. It still counts as usage, but who are we kidding? I'm talking about a FULL DAY HEAVY usage.

Except that isn't what I did. I used it normally. Why would I try to prove that my battery life was good if it wasn't?

Sorry that your battery life sucks. I don't know why that is, but I do know that I and many other iPhone users regularly enjoy "all day" battery life, by which I mean regular use with no attention paid to the battery and no fear that the phone will die before the end of the day. I'm not saying that is true for everyone, but I am saying that all of this battery life angst does not apply to everyone.
 
Except that isn't what I did. I used it normally. Why would I try to prove that my battery life was good if it wasn't?

Sorry that your battery life sucks. I don't know why that is, but I do know that I and many other iPhone users regularly enjoy "all day" battery life, by which I mean regular use with no attention paid to the battery and no fear that the phone will die before the end of the day. I'm not saying that is true for everyone, but I am saying that all of this battery life angst does not apply to everyone.

Oh dear god how many times do i have to repeat myself? OF COURSE it doesn't apply to everyone. On the weekends when i chill at home and barely use it it lasts 3 full days. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about heavy usage. Heavy. I once watched something like 7+ hours of NBA in HD on my iPad Air. While on wifi (constantly streaming). I'm not saying i want iPad battery cause that would be kinda impossible. But it has to be at least x2 of what it is today.
 
Fantastic. If the battery life isn't any better, I'll have to buy a case with a battery or something, making the phone way fatter than it has to be. Apple is really messing up with the batteries it seems. It's the only thing I hear everyone complain about, but yet they do nothing but try to make the phone thinner, something hardly anyone cares about.

No one complains about thickness or thinness but it is a big part of Apple's design story. There are a few things that keep iPhone a premium device. Anyone can throw in a 40 megapixel cam or quad hd display but there are physical limits to how small you can make 50 million premium smartphones in one batch. It might only sound like bragging rights to someone that doesn't care but Apple is progressing the industry and they definitely care.
 
No one complains about thickness or thinness but it is a big part of Apple's design story. There are a few things that keep iPhone a premium device. Anyone can throw in a 40 megapixel cam or quad hd display but there are physical limits to how small you can make 50 million premium smartphones in one batch. It might only sound like bragging rights to someone that doesn't care but Apple is progressing the industry and they definitely care.

ipad 3 and 4 were bigger and heavier than iPad 1 and 2. they had almost twice the battery because of retina display. nobody complained (at least people i know) because it was worth it (same 10 hours). so yeah, the story is not always the same.
 
Oh dear god how many times do i have to repeat myself? OF COURSE it doesn't apply to everyone. On the weekends when i chill at home and barely use it it lasts 3 full days. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about heavy usage. Heavy. I once watched something like 7+ hours of NBA in HD on my iPad Air. While on wifi (constantly streaming). I'm not saying i want iPad battery cause that would be kinda impossible. But it has to be at least x2 of what it is today.

I'm not not sure why you're getting so emotional about battery life on a phone, but I find it off-putting, so this will be my last response: Sorry you're unhappy with the iphone battery life. It's obviously a big deal to you, and you apparently have very high usage requirements if you think 2x current battery life is absolutely necessary. My view is that both battery life and thinness are awfully good as of right now and an improvement to either would be welcome but not necessary.

You should be aware that you're highly unlikely to see 2x battery life in the foreseeable future from any iphone, so if your phone "has to have" at least 2x current iPhone battery life, maybe take a look at competitors' offerings or else you're just going to continue to be disappointed. Good luck finding what you're looking for.
 
How on earth are you ending up needing to charge it during the day? If you start the day at 100% you need to use it insanely much, or with some really power hungry or really poor optimised apps with very high brightness on the screen for it not lasting through the day?

I for one charge it overnight, and then I will mostly end up having 30-60% when I end up going to bed depending on my usage and whether I had to use it in bright light so the display had to run at 100% brightness for a long period of time. I have yet to be able to go from 100% to under 10% no matter how much I use the phone during the day.


Unlike you, some people use their iPhone as more then a paperweight
 
I'm not not sure why you're getting so emotional about battery life on a phone, but I find it off-putting, so this will be my last response: Sorry you're unhappy with the iphone battery life. It's obviously a big deal to you, and you apparently have very high usage requirements if you think 2x current battery life is absolutely necessary. My view is that both battery life and thinness are awfully good as of right now and an improvement to either would be welcome but not necessary.

You should be aware that you're highly unlikely to see 2x battery life in the foreseeable future from any iphone, so if your phone "has to have" at least 2x current iPhone battery life, maybe take a look at competitors' offerings or else you're just going to continue to be disappointed. Good luck finding what you're looking for.

Because, unlike you, i care about my 700 euro phone. And yes, i do have high requirements. Listen, you act like i'm the only one on earth who's complaining meanwhile you're like the vast majority who's happy and who's getting 10 hours out of it (yeah, 10 hours of music and reading a book, ok) A LOT of people complain, so there MUST be a reason, haven't you though about that? My iPhone is my computer during the day. It's not just a phone. When i can see the % of the battery go down practically LIVE when using iMessage or a map navigation software, it pains me, because i still have a long day in front of me. Now you understand?
And don't act like fanboys do here (take a look at competitors and stuff) because i perfectly know what to expect from apple. I've been a fan since, i don't know, iPod mini? I will buy iPhone 6 regardless, because i need a new phone and i'm too deep into their ecosystem to buy anything else. But it can't stop me from expressing my wishes.
 
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How on earth are you ending up needing to charge it during the day? If you start the day at 100% you need to use it insanely much, or with some really power hungry or really poor optimised apps with very high brightness on the screen for it not lasting through the day?

I for one charge it overnight, and then I will mostly end up having 30-60% when I end up going to bed depending on my usage and whether I had to use it in bright light so the display had to run at 100% brightness for a long period of time. I have yet to be able to go from 100% to under 10% no matter how much I use the phone during the day.

Not gonna answer for him, but I have the two year old iPhone 5 and the battery life is a joke.

Every single day, if I don't recharge it will turn off at some point after work.

And nope, I don't use full brightness. In fact, I've turned most power hungry settings off. I use it for surfing/apps maybe 3 hours a day, plus 1 hour talk time and 1 hour music.

I guess you could call me a heavy user, but there's plenty like me.

All I want is to be able to use my iphone a lot for 1 full day before recharging. That's gonna take a huge improvement, at least 50 % battery life increase.
 
Not gonna answer for him, but I have the two year old iPhone 5 and the battery life is a joke.

Every single day, if I don't recharge it will turn off at some point after work.

And nope, I don't use full brightness. In fact, I've turned most power hungry settings off. I use it for surfing/apps maybe 3 hours a day, plus 1 hour talk time and 1 hour music.

I guess you could call me a heavy user, but there's plenty like me.

All I want is to be able to use my iphone a lot for 1 full day before recharging. That's gonna take a huge improvement, at least 50 % battery life increase.

People refuse to understand that not everybody lives by their standard. If it's good enough for them - it must be good enough for everybody.
 
There are too many variables that determine battery life. Tower reception, app type and usage, display brightness, etc., can vary widely between users.

The iPhone 5 battery is fine for my purposes, but I don't use my phone constantly. Someone who is emailing a lot, looking stuff up on the web, and taking photos/videos may very well need a large battery.

This is one of the downsides of Apple's "one size fits all" strategy. If the 5.5" rumored iPhone turns out to be a real product with a 3,000 mAh battery, maybe the argument here will become moot.
 
the third number is 2. 0, 1, 2
thats basic binary 5...
See what i did there?

lol

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And I am sick of you telling me that I use my phone too much. *puke*

Well, I am sick of you using your phone too much, so there!:cool:

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... If the 5.5" rumored iPhone turns out to be a real product with a 3,000 mAh battery, maybe the argument here will become moot.

I went from a 5 inch + Android to iPhone and haven't looked back, though I could benefit from a bigger screen. So now 5.5" sounds nice and I look forward to seeing them in the Apple Store. If it's delayed more than the 4.7", I'll probably wait for the 5.5 before I decide.

Gotta hold it and tickle the screen to see if it tickles me back. :D
 
With these batteries potentially getting bigger and bigger. unless i'm mistaken here, would that also mean its more heaver ? thus most of the phone's weight is the battery, since Apple make the rest of it lighter ?
 
Senseless search for a new spec to use in the feature checklist war between handsets.

Most consumers do not even understand what those units mean, let alone the subtleties and nuances of power efficiency in systems architecture.

Let us all wait until the new phone ships, let us see it perform in the real world, and choose afterwards.

This is just like discussing about the fuel tank capacity of a car without taking engine efficiency, aerodynamics or weight. What matters is miles per gallon.
 
Imagine if we'd get both, apple's expertise on battery life and a really high battery capacity

Apple's expertise on battery life? My iPhone, and my previous iPhone battery life has sucked. Especially this latest one with iOS7.
 
iPhone 6 NEEDS to have all day battery. I am tired of charging the iPhone 5s during the day.

Not quite sure why this has so many up-votes.

So do you charge your iPhone overnight? If so, what time do you end up charging it during the DAY?

I'm a heavy user and my iPhone is around 10%-15% by 2300.

I agree that the iPhone 6 needs better battery life but the 5s will last you most of the day. What on earth are you doing? Watching videos 24/7?
 
Senseless search for a new spec to use in the feature checklist war between handsets.

Most consumers do not even understand what those units mean, let alone the subtleties and nuances of power efficiency in systems architecture.

Let us all wait until the new phone ships, let us see it perform in the real world, and choose afterwards.

This is just like discussing about the fuel tank capacity of a car without taking engine efficiency, aerodynamics or weight. What matters is miles per gallon.

Expect they all perform pretty much the same, because physics. Of course, may be they'll make a leap like they did with the new intel in 2013 MBA, that would be very welcome too.
 
Not quite sure why this has so many up-votes.

So do you charge your iPhone overnight? If so, what time do you end up charging it during the DAY?

I'm a heavy user and my iPhone is around 10%-15% by 2300.

I agree that the iPhone 6 needs better battery life but the 5s will last you most of the day. What on earth are you doing? Watching videos 24/7?

You weren't asking me, but I'll reply anyway ;-)
I charge my iPhone 5 fully twice a day.
I use it for 10-12 hours per day and most of that is connected to WiFi. If it was mostly cellular then I would have to charge it three or four times.
 
Not quite sure why this has so many up-votes.

So do you charge your iPhone overnight? If so, what time do you end up charging it during the DAY?

I'm a heavy user and my iPhone is around 10%-15% by 2300.

I agree that the iPhone 6 needs better battery life but the 5s will last you most of the day. What on earth are you doing? Watching videos 24/7?

There's many posts from many on here saying that they don't get anywhere near the life you get.
Nobody knows the reasons. Nobody can say for sure that it's because person A just listens to music but person B browses safari all day.

I'm of the "battery life doesn't last a day" faction. You're the "battery life lasts all day" faction..
I charge mine overnight, plug it when I get out of bed, and am plugging in again around 4pm (really, anywhere from 2pm onwards) so that it doesn't go flat on my drive home. I also have a car charger to keep it topped up if I forget to plug in at work at all, because I don't want to breakdown on the motorway with an empty battery (I know, chances of that actually happening may be slim, but still..).

I put my issues down to signal (and the facebook app).
 
There's many posts from many on here saying that they don't get anywhere near the life you get.
Nobody knows the reasons. Nobody can say for sure that it's because person A just listens to music but person B browses safari all day.

I'm of the "battery life doesn't last a day" faction. You're the "battery life lasts all day" faction..
I charge mine overnight, plug it when I get out of bed, and am plugging in again around 4pm (really, anywhere from 2pm onwards) so that it doesn't go flat on my drive home. I also have a car charger to keep it topped up if I forget to plug in at work at all, because I don't want to breakdown on the motorway with an empty battery (I know, chances of that actually happening may be slim, but still..).

I put my issues down to signal (and the facebook app).

"Anywhere near the life you get."

What are you even saying?
 
There's many posts from many on here saying that they don't get anywhere near the life you get.
Nobody knows the reasons. Nobody can say for sure that it's because person A just listens to music but person B browses safari all day.

I'm of the "battery life doesn't last a day" faction. You're the "battery life lasts all day" faction..
I charge mine overnight, plug it when I get out of bed, and am plugging in again around 4pm (really, anywhere from 2pm onwards) so that it doesn't go flat on my drive home. I also have a car charger to keep it topped up if I forget to plug in at work at all, because I don't want to breakdown on the motorway with an empty battery (I know, chances of that actually happening may be slim, but still..).

I put my issues down to signal (and the facebook app).

Yeah, if signal is bad, there isn't much you can do, but the Facebook app is a huge hog. You could try deleting it and using the browser instead. I found that it works fine, still has messages, and won't drain your battery. Probably won't spy on you as much either. I have posted a few tips in this thread on battery saving which could help. You should look them up. Like disabling location services for iAds. Who wants marketers knowing their location? Or closing all apps and rebooting once in a while. And a few others.
PS: I would like a bigger battery too, I just can't believe anyone is having to charge twice a day. Totally out of the realm of my experience.

Here is a screen cap. I know I haven't used it much (a few texts, calls and some browsing), but it is Sunday...
 

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