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Then how does it support N-433 WiFi? I thought the maximum without MIMO was 150 Mbps.
For 802.11n, yes, 150Mbps is the max. That utilizes 2 bonded 20MHz channel (40 MHz total) and 64-QAM encoding. Not that that’s achievable under real world conditions.

But using 80MHz channels and 256-QAM, 802.11ac provides a maximum of 433Mbp for a 1x1 radio.
 
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Mark my words...... This will be announced on Tuesday of this week!

Unfortunately, ‘your word’ didn’t happen, being it didn’t happen. 😁 So my theory is, if it doesn’t launch by next week, then it won’t launch at all in April, which would put it into May, even near WWDC in June.
 
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Unfortunately, ‘your word’ didn’t happen, being it didn’t happen. 😁 So my theory is, if it doesn’t launch by next week, then it won’t launch at all in April, which would put it into May, even near WWDC in June.
They‘ve had a number of times they’ve done press-release-only announcements of new devices in the week before WWDC, to “clear the decks” for something bigger at the keynote, and the keynote itself would give them a good place to announce something for which they want to go over new features (particularly if they can make a case for it being relevant to development), with much less cause for people to claim “why are they putting out new things at a time like this?” which some might say if they hold a remote-only event before then. (Also, hopefully, the world might be on slightly firmer footing by the end of May.)

So, my guess is, if the iPhone 9/SE doesn’t land in the next couple days, it could be announced PR-only in the week before WWDC, with the new 13/14” MBP “on-stage‘ at WWDC, along with AirTags, which may have developer implications. A new Apple TV might fit there, if it has some new APIs to talk about. Otherwise, that one“s harder to guess.
 
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Calling it the SE is going to alienate a lot of SE fans that liked it for a small capable phone, not a cheap second class one.

The name is really just a name. The iPhone 8 has also been the most successful mobile device form factor for them if not on the entire industry hence I’m sure there will be plenty buyers.
 
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Apple is not selling it as a budget model and it's supposed to be come with A13 and OLED update but not the Pro lens.
I don't remember Apple ever touting anything as a "budget model," in those words, though I think clearly a $400 phone with a current flagship chip in this age of $1000+ phones is pretty good. It may very well be that this is Apple's intended "budget model" without them using that term.

Anyway I don't expect OLED, I expect LCD, A13, and I hold out hope for the lens on the 11 but I don't think it's happening. Is the one on the XR a good one? Would that make sense?
 
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I don't remember Apple ever touting anything as a "budget model," in those words, though I think clearly a $400 phone with a current flagship chip in this age of $1000+ phones is pretty good. It may very well be that this is Apple's intended "budget model" without them using that term.

Anyway I don't expect OLED, I expect LCD, A13, and I hold out hope for the lens on the 11 but I don't think it's happening. Is the one on the XR a good one? Would that make sense?

It depends on the market like every low-mid range smartphones from Samsung pack decent specs such as OLED, top-performing SoC and acceptable ultrasonic fingerprint sensor for a very reasonable price range.
 
Apple is not selling it as a budget model and it's supposed to be come with A13 and OLED update but not the Pro lens.
The SE (2020), as the lowest priced and lowest featured model in Apple’s lineup, will be the budget model. Ideally, it will get to $349 in a year or two. Like the SE (2016), it will have the current SoC so that it can be sold for a few years while still being sufficiently capable and fast.

Also, the new SE will not have an OLED display, that would make it more expensive, which is the opposite of what Apple wants. By Pro lens do you mean the triple camera from the 11 Pro? If so, yes the SE will not have the triple camera, it will only have one rear camera.
 
I say it’s a bad idea to call this next iPhone the ‘iPhone SE’. There was only one true iPhone SE in a 4” form factor, and this next ‘iPhone 9’ model won’t be anything like it. I personally think it Would be confusing to the consumer if Apple use iPhone SE again, when they are really nothing alike.
Really. The 4" SE needs to have its number retired and inducted into the hall of fame. What a phone - on my third (ram upgrade then one stolen now on 128GB)
 
Really. The 4" SE needs to have its number retired and inducted into the hall of fame. What a phone - on my third (ram upgrade then one stolen now on 128GB)
That's incredibly narcissistic of you. Just because you like the phone, doesnt mean others cant use or re-use the name.

"Retired" lol. Really?
 
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I think we'd all wanna know whats under that sheet ... it cant be an iphone on a chair.. must be a pritty big bloody phone for a sheet like that.

or could it.
 
Really. The 4" SE needs to have its number retired and inducted into the hall of fame. What a phone - on my third (ram upgrade then one stolen now on 128GB)

Not really, The SE is about smaller form factor and the people prefer to buy a 4.7” display in the original iPhone SE physical size. The iPhone 9 is capable of improving into that smaller form factor but Apple is unimaginative by rehashing old part from the iPhone 8.
 
Not really, The SE is about smaller form factor and the people prefer to buy a 4.7” display in the original iPhone SE physical size. The iPhone 9 is capable of improving into that smaller form factor but Apple is unimaginative by rehashing old part from the iPhone 8.
I’d disagree that the SE is about small size...though that certainly was a reasonable thought back on release. I think it’s more the other likely interpretation: that the SE is about putting mostly current components into an existing chassis, enabling Apple to sell it at a significantly lower price point.

But whichever you think is the case, Apple appears to be about to settle it: if they release the rumored new phone under the SE brand and it’s an 8-with-A13, then it’s clearly the “low-cost” line, and not the “small phone” line.

I don’t think it’s “unimaginative.” It’s offering a really good iPhone to a market that had been priced out. The imaginative stuff that you’re talking about is for the flagship releases.
 
I’d disagree that the SE is about small size...though that certainly was a reasonable thought back on release. I think it’s more the other likely interpretation: that the SE is about putting mostly current components into an existing chassis, enabling Apple to sell it at a significantly lower price point.

But whichever you think is the case, Apple appears to be about to settle it: if they release the rumored new phone under the SE brand and it’s an 8-with-A13, then it’s clearly the “low-cost” line, and not the “small phone” line.

I don’t think it’s “unimaginative.” It’s offering a really good iPhone to a market that had been priced out. The imaginative stuff that you’re talking about is for the flagship releases.

Simply put, the guy at Apple making a new iPhone 9 probably not much different than the peasant that it will turn into a less stellar product. That's how humanity failed to rectify the corporate world downfall.
 
With all the economic uncertainty, it would make sense to release a low cost iPhone for the masses. A lot of people also want Touch ID. 6:20 in Cupertino. Nothing yet though.
 
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