More Second-Generation iPad Air Part Leaks Point to A8X Chip, 2GB RAM, 16GB Storage Option

[Wegee]

People HAVE to connect their devices to add music from iTunes.

I don't understand. People, stop complaining, plug it into iTunes and shut up!!

Lol, what are you, the last minute apple fan? Maybe you don't remember the whole "pc free, itunes free and cut the cord" claims of the Apple's """"post-pc"""" era.
16gb is simply just wrong today, worst for the next few years, if you buy this castrated device.
Be prepared for the next years about people start to seriously complain about how small is the 16gb size, they - and was about time! - start to understand this now.
You think that the million of people who don't care about this stuff because it's an apple device, so 'it just works' (cit.) HAVE to connect to itunes? Are you kidding or what

Selling the 32gb for the same price of the 16gb for apple is nothing, they just want more money, it's not about the experience anymore, just stop defending every bad choice blindly.

 

[SMIDG3T]

Lol, what are you, the last minute apple fan? Maybe you don't remember the whole "pc free, itunes free and cut the cord" claims of the Apple's """"post-pc"""" era.
16gb is simply just wrong today, worst for the next few years, if you buy this castrated device.
Be prepared for the next years about people start to seriously complain about how small is the 16gb size, they - and was about time! - start to understand this now.
You think that the million of people who don't care about this stuff because it's an apple device, so 'it just works' (cit.) HAVE to connect to itunes? Are you kidding or what

Selling the 32gb for the same price of the 16gb for apple is nothing, they just want more money, it's not about the experience anymore, just stop defending every bad choice blindly.

Add music from your iTunes library to your iPhone without using a cable and let me know how you get on.

 

[Wegee]

Add music from your iTunes library to your iPhone without using a cable and let me know how you get on.

Probably it will be a surprise, but sometimes people buy music from itunes store, so they don't need the cables. And you know what? They don't need another computer with itunes to sync their device also (icloud, anyone?). This is what many average users do, apple created consumers this way, people just don't care how stuff works (and for some little parts they are right).
The point is, even with this whole cloud services, it's impossible to rely on traffic data and networks for transfering huge amount of data everytime. It's unconvenient (today) and a waste of a limited resource (bandwidth).
So, having more storage is just a benefit for every aspect of the experience. Now, I'd like to know why a 32gb device at the price of 16gb can hurt the consumer, please.

It's the same with the 2gb of ram, since ios7 and the more demanding tasks it's clear to the average people also (apps continuous refreshing) why it's not just a complain for the sake of complaining.

Btw you can use the also wifi to sync music if you, like me, are one of the guy who use a pc to sync the device.

 

[Alith]

I predict the iPad Air 2 (or whatever it's called) is going to be a massive success if Apple puts 2GB of RAM in it. For sure, people around the world will camp and line up to get it!

And I predict that 99% of people that eventually purchase the new iPad will have no idea what amount of working memory it has or what that even means to them.

 

[Wegee]

And I predict that 99% of people that eventually purchase the new iPad will have no idea what amount of working memory it has or what that even means to them.

See, that's the point.
The average people don't know what ram is or does, and they don't need to, (same for the so much advertised A8x chip, btw).

But at the end they will notice the overall improvement of the device while doing some basic task, like switching back and forth from a game to safari with many tabs, or mail, or other apps.
And they eventually stop asking 'why safari reload every task? Why the game restarted?' etc. The overall slugginesh it's already a scenario since ios7.

So, basically, yes people just don't know why they need more ram, but for sure they will appreciate it. People don't know many things, but that doesn't mean they don't need it, this is the technology that works.

 

[dc89]

My iPhone 6+ already feels old with A8 and 1GB RAM!

I knew it would.
Glad I went with the Xperia Z3 over the 6 Plus, no more refreshing web pages is kinda...refreshing. If Apple addresses the RAM situation on future phones I'll be back.

 

[Hakone]

If they're going to keep storage at 16GB, i'd suggest they price is like:

16GB - $499
32GB - $549
64GB - $599
128GB - $699

... or I guess that's wishful thinking.

 

[rowspaxe]

You should pay up for anything over 4gigs you cheap asses. Forget that Apple doesn't allow you to use memory cards!

Its the free stuff crowd out in force. Why does apple owe you 32 gig minimum storage? The ipad is an amazing device and imo very fairly priced.
Yes--there are cheaper tablets--but most are clearly inferior.

Later occupiers!

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16gb is simply just wrong today, worst for the next few years, if you buy this castrated device.
Be prepared for the next years about people start to seriously complain about how small is the 16gb size, they - and was about time! - start to understand this now.
...

Selling the 32gb for the same price of the 16gb for apple is nothing, they just want more money, it's not about the experience anymore, just stop defending every bad choice blindly.

apple owes you nothing. if you want more storage--pay for it. I have always bought minimum storage with ipads. If you want to do heavy apps and games--ante up

 

[Tech198]

How did you upgrade to iOS 8? If you haven't you're in for a nice little surprise.

No i'm not.... I'm not missing out on anything expect half my space must be set aside and/or apps rejiggered to allow this big update. SOmething i have no intention of doing.

None of the iOS8 features do anything for me. not to mention apps which have (never will) be updated if they are no longer developed..

Yes, i do have those apps..

 

[Wegee]

apple owes you nothing. if you want more storage--pay for it. I have always bought minimum storage with ipads. If you want to do heavy apps and games--ante up

Who said apple owes me something?
If, for some reason the minumum becomes 32gb -and it'll be the next year, of course- you'll stop buyng the ipad because is not minimum enough?
They do the same replacement with the new devices every year, I don't see the problem. In fact, between the 5s 16gb and the 32gb there are now just 50$. (I'll give you a clue: usually is 100$, probably is 5$).

Apple could sell 8gb useless ipads like the 5c for what it worth, I've always had the 64gb and the 32gb for the iphones, so this change nothing to me.
But I'm also aware enough to understand that's just marketing and money driven than hardware cost driven. So, I'm basically free to think this is plain stupid because it hurts the consumer experience and no one takes advantage but apple's pockets.
You know, sometimes there can be good deals for the consumers also, nothing to be ashamed. Anyway, good luck again with the next OTA big release in the next years.

edit: bad typos

 

[Wegee]

No i'm not.... I'm not missing out on anything expect half my space must be set aside and/or apps rejiggered to allow this big update. SOmething i have no intention of doing.

None of the iOS8 features do anything for me. not to mention apps which have (never will) be updated if they are no longer developed..

Tech198, sorry if I quote you, but this is the perfect example of what's happening with many people around me and on the internet. And that explains in part why ios8 statistic say is less adoption than ios 7 last year.
And you and this people are perfectly right, but I'm also pretty sure this is a side effects that apple doesn't want. Apple wants you and the other people to update the lastest os, and the lastest apps. Of course it's all about marketing and statistics: '98% of our devices runs iosX, we are not fragmented, this is the best advanced ios in the world' etc. I think -and I could be wrong- that ios 7 really started a precedent about fragmentation, with its redesign and the poor developement, people are less encouraged now to update to ios8, and the 16gb storage space is clearly making the problem more obvious.

 

[Tech198]

And you and this people are perfectly right, but I'm also pretty sure this is a side effects that apple doesn't want.

Your right. Apple may not want, but it's there regardless. The only way i can see if every major iOS release, Apple makes every single developer that has an app in the Store, to add support for iOS8 as a must...

Their is no plee for mercy..

However, most developers would be unhappy with updating for the sole purpose of updating without adding any new features.

 

[Wegee]

The only way i can see if every major iOS release, Apple makes every single developer that has an app in the Store, to add support for iOS8 as a must...

It's probably already like that, I don't know if it's apple, features related or what, but I have more than one app that explicitly requires ios 8. On my ipad 2 i'll keep ios 7, i tried the 8 and it was the worst experience I had with an ipad so far, so I downgraded immediately.

 

[ieguizab]

No

 

[cibonak]

Ram

If I use the new ipad with 2GB of Ram what would be the main differences between the oldest one with 1GB of RAM?

 

[Wegee]

If I use the new ipad with 2GB of Ram what would be the main differences between the oldest one with 1GB of RAM?

Ram on this device works exactly like computers:
the main purpose of the ram it's to have more space to execute and run software simultaneously. Super basic everyday examples? If you have many apps opened simultaneously you can actually work switching between apps without refreshing every time the status of the app (with ios7 doesn't have to be many apps, actually just few). So if you have some tabs opened in safari or chrome, they don't need to be reloaded if you switch to another app. if you need to do some work, like research on the web, pdfs and documents, and cut, copy paste stuff, having more ram improve a lot switching between apps without losing anything. Another example? If you are playing a heavy game, and I need to reply a mail, or another im app like fb or whatsapp, you don't have to worries that the game doesn't need to be reloaded (even if in pause) when you switch back. If you are watching netflix or youtube, you don't have to worry to lose the status of video during playback or after the search, this happens a lot to me: I'm whatching youtube, I switch to safari to search some infos about what I'm whatching and when I switch back to youtube I need to reload everything. There are many other example, but you get the point. It will also be uber usefuill with the new continuity funcion of course.

It's a common mistake to confuse the ram with the raw speed. Many people post benchmarks and to point out that apple hw is optimized and don't need more ram. As you can see It's not like that.

edit: added another example

 

[cibonak]

Thanks a lot Wegee
Really appreciated

Ram on this device works exactly like computers:
the main purpose of the ram it's to have more space to execute and run software simultaneously. Super basic everyday examples? If you have many apps opened simultaneously you can actually work switching between apps without refreshing every time the status of the app (with ios7 doesn't have to be many apps, actually just few). So if you have some tabs opened in safari or chrome, they don't need to be reloaded if you switch to another app. if you need to do some work, like research on the web, pdfs and documents, and cut, copy paste stuff, having more ram improve a lot switching between apps without losing anything. Another example? If you are playing a heavy game, and I need to reply a mail, or another im app like fb or whatsapp, you don't have to worries that the game doesn't need to be reloaded (even if in pause) when you switch back. If you are watching netflix or youtube, you don't have to worry to lose the status of video during playback or after the search, this happens a lot to me: I'm whatching youtube, I switch to safari to search some infos about what I'm whatching and when I switch back to youtube I need to reload everything. There are many other example, but you get the point. It will also be uber usefuill with the new continuity funcion of course.

It's a common mistake to confuse the ram with the raw speed. Many people post benchmarks and to point out that apple hw is optimized and don't need more ram. As you can see It's not like that.

edit: added another example

 

[westrock2000]

That is all I would need... I use match in itunes so I need zero storage for music, and I use icloud for my camera roll so I need zero storage for pictures. Essentially it is just an internet / reading / consumption device with no need for much storage (for me anyway).

On the iPhone at least, both of those services still use local storage for cache whether you like it or not. I use the same services for the same reasons and I still periodically have go and free up several gigabytes of space used by music and photo stream.

16GB is not acceptable anymore. Whether it's Apple, Android of Microsoft. We do live in that world.

 

[Sharkey311]

Most non-triumphant.

Glad someone got the reference *airguitarriff*

 

[rowspaxe]

But I'm also aware enough to understand that's just marketing and money driven than hardware cost driven. So, I'm basically free to think this is plain stupid because it hurts the consumer experience and no one takes advantage but apple's pockets.

They obviously have made an assessment of the price elasticities of various segments and are trying to maximize profits. The raw component price--be it $5 or .50 is largely irrelevant. Having $499 as entry price attracts a lot of buyers--even if they end up paying $599 or $699. In my opinion a 16 gb ipad air is worth far more that $499. Capitalism giveth, and capitalism taketh away.