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MyLeftNut said:
The fact that Steve spent so much time on the software is significant in that the software suites have been reworked extensively (and remember they too are universal binary) so there is nothing stopping them from being released to the other side. Therefore, the pull factor of the software for PC owners to move to OS X is becoming more compelling. The hardware less IMHO.

Interesting times.:D

Absolutely. I didn't perceive the keynote as flat, though. I thought the demonstration of iLife was the heart of the keynote. I'm not currently a Mac user and I was blown away by the suite's capabilities. Enough so that I am now definitely commited to purchasing a Mac and a .mac subscription. I'm waiting for a desktop, probably a Mini, as long as a dual-core model becomes available. I'll pay up to $1000 for it.
 
samm-c said:
I think that people saying this current new MacBook Pro is just a stop-gap are dead wrong. The enclosure is completely new. Apple had to make all new designs and tooling for this MacBook, this is the final version. They could have easily drastically changed the design but obviously the Powerbook design language was considered far and away the best looking laptop out there. Apple does there products like Audi, simple, elegant, timeless; they refine the same themes over time (think iPod).
Not Audi..more like BMW. ;)
 
BRLawyer said:
No. Tablets are all but dead; maybe in Star Trek years, not now...I couldn't care less about them, and they are a proven failure in Winblows world.

I think they have failed because of the cost of the computers, as well as poor handwriting recognition.

I remember way back when the first data CD's came to market. Mostly a dead duck in the water. Cost was the issue back then.
 
macintel4me said:
Not Audi..more like BMW. ;)

LOL, you're kidding right? The new BMW's are anything but timeless. There is a reason why Ive (the iPod designer) drives an Audi; unrivaled quality, classic, simple design. Just like Apple.
 
samm-c said:
LOL, you're kidding right? The new BMW's are anything but timeless. There is a reason why Ive (the iPod designer) drives an Audi; unrivaled quality, classic, simple design. Just like Apple.

mmmh, i'd rather say PORSCHE as timeless design is concerned... :p
 
strange days said:
mmmh, i'd rather say PORSCHE as timeless design is concerned... :p
Yes, timeless. Sometimes you just can't get one of the Porsche designs out of your mind!

70_914_6.jpg


I especially like the 15" wheels on the front, and 13" on the rear....
 
AidenShaw said:
Yes, timeless. Sometimes you just can't get one of the Porsche designs out of your mind!

70_914_6.jpg


I especially like the 15" wheels on the front, and 13" on the rear....

coool !

...i happen to drive expensive cars for a living ( among other things ), and i like porsches for their simple teutonic elegance and robustness...

...just wanted to nod at your post Aiden, but i wouldn't like hijacking the thread now... :p
 
samm-c said:
Apple does there products like Audi, simple, elegant, timeless; they refine the same themes over time (think iPod).

My, how quickly we forget the candy-colored iMac and iBook. I cringe every time I see one. Once upon a time they were cool, now they're an eye sore.

Apple's tail-fin phase :)
 
AidenShaw said:
Yes, timeless. Sometimes you just can't get one of the Porsche designs out of your mind!

70_914_6.jpg

Hey, no 914 bashing, that's the lightest car Porsche ever made and they're fun! Imagine if Porsche made a Miata clone today.

BTW, the 914 was supposed to be an Audi. Ahem. It actually was, the 914-4 was an Audi, the 914-6 was a Porsche.

The Porsche 924 was also designed for Audi. I hear the Audi rings are stamped into the floorpan underneath the carpet on all 924s.

1977_924.jpg


The 924 was also hated, but it did spawn the 944 and 968. I have a 944 Turbo.

Lastly, the 356 and 911 were not timeless designs. They worked with the underpinnings of Hitler's Beetle. The 911 was a car that lived with limitations of its parts (air cooled rear engine). Porsche refined it to work around a bad design. At one point Porsche wanted to replace the 911 with the 928. The last 3 generations of 911 (993, 996, 997) still slavishly have the engine in the wrong place but they come up with nanny electronics to compensate. When they do something good with the engine in the right place (Cayman) it's held back so it doesn't tread on the 911's turf.

And lastly on the subject of Porsche, that LaCie hard drive, what is up with that? I could design that.
 
macintel4me said:
Not Audi..more like BMW. ;)
Best summed up by Jeremy Clarkson recently, (on several new BMWs), "12 feet of car." Nothing special, every businessman and travelling sales rep seems to be getting one. Does Apple want to be compared to something that is becoming normal?

Answers on a postcard.
 
janstett said:
My, how quickly we forget the candy-colored iMac and iBook. I cringe every time I see one. Once upon a time they were cool, now they're an eye sore.

Apple's tail-fin phase :)
I think they still look good, but they had their time and place. If Apple were to return to those designs, people would not onlt laugh at them, but they would be accused of not innovating. Switch to black Carbon Fibre and they will be held up as design gurus, (even if other laptops already have similar designs based on carbon fibre shells).
 
Vt

I think this is the result of the VT chips not being ready in high enough quanities for apple. The Intel Dual Core does not support VT technology. I Steve wanted to talk about this a bit.
 
crispoe said:
I think this is the result of the VT chips not being ready in high enough quanities for apple. The Intel Dual Core does not support VT technology. I Steve wanted to talk about this a bit.

Why does Steve care about VT? VT is for virtualization, that's it. Unless this is another VT I'm not aware of.

VT is already shipping in the Intel Xeon 7000 Family, just no one can use it yet.
 
IchatAV on Windows

Let me put a few things together for you guys:

1)Mac Mini + Intel processor (already extremely likely Q2 this year)
2)DVB decoder and media connections
3)Updated Isight
3)Frontrow 2.0
- with IChatAV as a 10ft experience
- or Mac Skype (under dev) within front row eventually
- able to deal with DVB
- PVR capability

all of the hardware above is heavily rumored or available, the software either already exists or wouldn't be far away...
so could we be looking at a Mac videophone through your HD living room flat panel? with the starts of a MCE rival?

If they make a windows version of iChat AV (which isn't unlikley given the move to x86 chips etc etc),
....and if Stevie J and the crew get there first,
....with an already amazing form factor that microsoft can't do anything about

IT could easily BLOW MS OUT OF THE WATER as far as Messenger and their overfeatured MCE offering. The best thing is...Apple wouldn't actually have to code much to pull it off!

the ultimate convergence device...before MS even thought of it...hmmmm
 
janstett said:
The Porsche 924 was also designed for Audi.
Yup, it had the Audi 100 engine in it.
I hear the Audi rings are stamped into the floorpan underneath the carpet on all 924s.
Never felt the need to rip out the floor, but the Audi logo was right there on the valve cover.
The 924 was also hated, but it did spawn the 944 and 968. I have a 944 Turbo.
Never understood why that car was disliked, it was a blast, especially in the snow :)
 
BlueRevolution said:
Originally Posted by BlueRevolution
ok, "get your orders in early"? there are always backlogs when something new comes out. hence the advice.

and tablets are soo... 2002. neat idea, but handwriting recognition and the rest just aren't there. and imagine playing games on a computer with neither keyboard nor mouse.


mdavey said:
Hello - wireless keyboard, wireless mouse?


:eek: :D :D :D :D :D :D
 
iMeowbot said:
Never understood why that car was disliked, it was a blast, especially in the snow :)
The 924 was hated mostly by people who never drove one. It was a great car for what it was, not a performance car by any means, but then again it was never meant to be one (if you don't count the Carrera GT variations).
 
Virtualization -

Trekkie said:
Why does Steve care about VT? VT is for virtualization, that's it. Unless this is another VT I'm not aware of.

VT is already shipping in the Intel Xeon 7000 Family, just no one can use it yet.
Running other OS's applications natively on OS X would be a major selling point for switchers and businesses. Many of microsofts new applications for Vista look very much like OS X with brushed metal.

For example Office 12.

I think there is a good chance that in Leopard you may see the ability to natively launch Windows Applications transparently, just like Classic, Rosetta or X11. I know its a long shot- but VT technology would make this all possible.

I am still seriously considering buying the macbook anyways. :) sweet little machine.
 
crispoe said:
I think there is a good chance that in Leopard you may see the ability to natively launch Windows Applications transparently, just like Classic, Rosetta or X11. I know its a long shot- but VT technology would make this all possible.

I doubt so, too much of the Windows API are the intellectual property of Microsoft. Think Bill will ever let Steve do it? Think again.
 
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