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More Users Trust Amazon and Google to Handle Their Personal User Data Than Apple, Survey Suggests
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No way that you can trust Facebook more than you can trust Apple. Apple is surely better where privacy is concerned. Very sad to hear this
But that requires that people can read a little, understand a little, and have no more than $10 per month to spend on privacy. That is a tall order for the eduction system in the US these days. If you are a teacher or know a teacher you should be absolutely ashamed of the average student that graduates High School.
This comment seems to have had mixed reactions. FWIW I didn’t like our dislike at all because I’m not sure I understood it completely.
Can you explain further what few things they tried and got caught? The only thing I can think of is the recent icloud photo scanning thing. What else were you referring to as “dishonest when it suits them”?
Wow you are really focusing on that one tiny detail. Would you rather they scan your data on their computers instead of on your device? What do you see as more private? All your data scanned on their servers or some of your data going through a hash check on your device? I don’t like either, but I would rather my data stay where I want it instead of being uploaded to whoever.
Wow your really trying not answer the question. The answer is no one other than apple is scanning on device. Scan all you want once the info I want to put there is physical on their sever
Hi - yeah I noticed that.
All sorts, tax regimes, there was the iCloud tracking scandal and a couple of others that come to mind.
I remember them calling the hard drives in the Time capsule server class.
I remember the original 64bit Mac Pro that wasn't fully 64bit.
Scandals about what concessions they make for China that go against their ethos.
There are a lot of dishonest things they do, especially in the marketing sector that people choose to forget. (Remember being dishonest doesn't just mean lying, it also means stretching the truth and also not being truthful when you know it would be expected).
Not for a second saying they are the only ones, they are most certainly NOT.
The Apple privacy drive reminds me of Volvo;
Now, just from the off Volvo I believe make some pretty good cars, (I don't own one if it makes any difference, and never have). In the Uk and throughout Europe there seemed, (for a while at least not sure about now), to be this that Volvos were the safest cars you can buy. The crash test reports didn't bear this out.
The reason it became this way is because of their marketing team. They hammered the message home over and over and over and people believed it and if it was ever questioned then they had enough collateral in the minds of the public', to be able to ride out the doubt.
1000 users out of billions of daily internet users?
Anyone who has taken a statistical analysis class will tell you that this sample size is so ridiculously small that any data from it is completely invalid.
With a sample size of less than 0.00002% of actual daily internet users and limited to one country whose population makes up only 4.25% of the world’s population, that would be statistically the same as asking 30 registered voters in the Northeastern quadrant of Ohio who they are voting for and saying that the results will determine the election.
Even with it being limited to the US, 1000 people is only 0.0003% of the population. So, even limited to the US, this is not a valid sample size.
This is definitely some lame clickbait, MacRumors. If you submitted this in a high school statistics course, the teacher would want to see you after class.
Anyone who has taken a statistical analysis class will tell you that this sample size is so ridiculously small that any data from it is completely invalid.
With a sample size of less than 0.00002% of actual daily internet users and limited to one country whose population makes up only 4.25% of the world’s population, that would be statistically the same as asking 30 registered voters in the Northeastern quadrant of Ohio who they are voting for and saying that the results will determine the election.
Even with it being limited to the US, 1000 people is only 0.0003% of the population. So, even limited to the US, this is not a valid sample size.
This is definitely some lame clickbait, MacRumors. If you submitted this in a high school statistics course, the teacher would want to see you after class.
The answer is, that they are only checking hashes for very specific photos. And they don’t scan for content, just hash matches. Not that I like it but it’s much more secure than what google does. And they only scan what’s being uploaded to iCloud. So if it’s not being uploaded to iCloud, its not scanned. Google on the other hand scans your emails for content. Scan your photos for content. Keeps your passwords for all your Wi-Fi. They Scan your contacts, and track who you comunicate with and what you communicate about. If you are concerned at all about privacy, stay FAR away from google and their products. Apple’s not perfect but they far better when it comes to privacy.
I'm a career professional in hitech industry and my opinion is without doubt that Apple is better in handling consumer data. However I'm not surprised that Amazon and Google rank higher, simply because they have more audience and because of the consumers' natural instinct of trusting what they use.
- Google is the goto place for search engine
- Youtube is the goto for video related services
- AWS is the place to go to for cloud computing
- Amazon.com is the goto for online shopping
Both Google and Amazon have been accused of privacy violations but they still rank higher because of this.
If that's the case, why is FB the goto for social media, not trusted by their own users? Because when a whistle blower comes out with irrefutable information, the company's CEO publicly discredited the lady's information despite it was already vetted by Congress. The information revealed was that they not only disrespected privacy data, they also were wrecless in their own assessment of risks. They only made public information that benefited them and buried things that didn't. This was a cheap shot and Mark needs to be punished for playing dirty. What's more? They changed their company name just right after that. Now the name change may have been in planning a long time before that, but choosing to go through with it during a scandal was NOT a good idea. People's normal moral standard kicked in and they were disgusted by the way FB responded to everything, despite the fact that they regularly used FB for social interactions.
- Google is the goto place for search engine
- Youtube is the goto for video related services
- AWS is the place to go to for cloud computing
- Amazon.com is the goto for online shopping
Both Google and Amazon have been accused of privacy violations but they still rank higher because of this.
If that's the case, why is FB the goto for social media, not trusted by their own users? Because when a whistle blower comes out with irrefutable information, the company's CEO publicly discredited the lady's information despite it was already vetted by Congress. The information revealed was that they not only disrespected privacy data, they also were wrecless in their own assessment of risks. They only made public information that benefited them and buried things that didn't. This was a cheap shot and Mark needs to be punished for playing dirty. What's more? They changed their company name just right after that. Now the name change may have been in planning a long time before that, but choosing to go through with it during a scandal was NOT a good idea. People's normal moral standard kicked in and they were disgusted by the way FB responded to everything, despite the fact that they regularly used FB for social interactions.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
“If I don’t trust Google and Amazon, then what the hell am I doing with their microphones all over my home.”
People want to live in this fantasy where corporations give them services and/or products for free (or at a deep loss) and there are no repercussions from that.
While I understand not trusting Apple with your data I cannot understand how you can think Google and Amazon are more trustworthy
They’re like, the example every privacy advocate uses to show you how tracking works.
They’re like, the example every privacy advocate uses to show you how tracking works.
Considering Apple doesn’t have a search engine, gigantic advertising platform, or website selling all kinds of merchandise that relies on selling you more stuff based on other purchases this just proves that users a stupid.
That’s so strange to me. Clearly, Apple’s done a bad job of telling the public how seriously they take privacy
Google tells you what they use your data for and has ways for you to see what they know about you.
The way I look at the board is Amazon #1. Apple, Google, Microsoft … #2 … the rest …
I think Apple implicit fear based marketing … ”trust us, the rest are after you … including third party devs” is backfiring.
Apple practices have shown in several places to play against users interests and people do understand that … right to repair … repairability …. so on and so forth. Yes, absolutely great profits in the mobile space along with market share …. Yet it seams that user trust Amazon and Google more with their home automations rather than Apple … that is interesting considering your home is your castle … Microsoft is clearly well trusted in the work PC space both by businesses and people … well where peoples “money” actually is … now casual computing / iPhone … its Apple territory. Heck considering Android market share … sure it seams user trust Google / Android to process contactless payments and all.
Now, here is a twist. Jeff Bezos own WP … and Amazon #1 … coincidence or not?
Here is a concern … will ever Apple expand in other areas out and around the iPhone / casual computing? I mean, as profits go right now … no need to be relevant in much else than the iPhone and pocket services… but how relevant will that space be in 10 years or less? How relevant will be TV+ / Apple TV? HomeKit is still a hit or miss … Siri well. Will Apple Car … would people trust repairability … hey your lightning port is malfunctioning … new car … here is a refurb?
I mean, the iPhone is a good lever … but I think Apple is asking too much of the iPhone to be the lever to jump start other areas of computing if not very close to the device … it certainly has not done much for either the PC or Entertainment Console space … very close to the the iPhone is where the trust stops really … or lets say the trust is there “affordable” … will it do for Automobiles what has one for the Mac? Of course not, much much less, another Apple TV again much less … the further away the action gets less relevant is the lever.
I think Apple implicit fear based marketing … ”trust us, the rest are after you … including third party devs” is backfiring.
Apple practices have shown in several places to play against users interests and people do understand that … right to repair … repairability …. so on and so forth. Yes, absolutely great profits in the mobile space along with market share …. Yet it seams that user trust Amazon and Google more with their home automations rather than Apple … that is interesting considering your home is your castle … Microsoft is clearly well trusted in the work PC space both by businesses and people … well where peoples “money” actually is … now casual computing / iPhone … its Apple territory. Heck considering Android market share … sure it seams user trust Google / Android to process contactless payments and all.
Now, here is a twist. Jeff Bezos own WP … and Amazon #1 … coincidence or not?
Here is a concern … will ever Apple expand in other areas out and around the iPhone / casual computing? I mean, as profits go right now … no need to be relevant in much else than the iPhone and pocket services… but how relevant will that space be in 10 years or less? How relevant will be TV+ / Apple TV? HomeKit is still a hit or miss … Siri well. Will Apple Car … would people trust repairability … hey your lightning port is malfunctioning … new car … here is a refurb?
I mean, the iPhone is a good lever … but I think Apple is asking too much of the iPhone to be the lever to jump start other areas of computing if not very close to the device … it certainly has not done much for either the PC or Entertainment Console space … very close to the the iPhone is where the trust stops really … or lets say the trust is there “affordable” … will it do for Automobiles what has one for the Mac? Of course not, much much less, another Apple TV again much less … the further away the action gets less relevant is the lever.
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Are you surprised, all that PR and marketing spin blown away by CSAMgate. We might be hardcore apple fans and understood it but your average Joe, who was subjected to negative top story news across all mainstream media, didn’t. Trust was eroded and I’m surprised heads didn’t roll in HQ.
So apple is the only one scanning on user device.
Does Google not tell the customer that. Google does lie. Everyone knows that Google scans everything. They offer a great set of tools and services for this data. Does it make me happy? Not really but
apple using the owners device to do isnt great either. Worse infact. To turn off iCloud cripples the ecosystem.
