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Your photos are already scanned. Think about it, go to the photos app and type a name of some your contacts. The photos apps should show you photos with those people. Type tree, dog, cat, pet, food etc. etc. etc.. The photos apps shows pictures of whatever you are searching for. This is not new to iOS 15. This feature has been enabled for a few versions of iOS. I get your point about CSAM but that's not what you've stated in your posts. And now with iOS 15, type in a word that's on a document in the search field, and if it's in a photo it will show in your results. Photos are already scanned.
Yes, they are scanned, but for your benefit, not to turn you into the cops like the CSAM scanner. Huge difference, so much so, that it really doesn't apply.
 
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Most people are like my mom!
But if I do nothing, I don’t see where is the problem!

She literally kill me when she said that!
 
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The backlash and legal liability it would open Apple to if one of the worlds richest consumer focused companies lied at this scale would be biblical. I treat companies from a legal point of view - i.e. liability. I think the probability is far more likely to trust the giant company that says 'hey we are selling privacy and don't make money from selling your data' which is obvious from their quarterly earnings vs company that says, hey we are selling your data and here's how much we made by doing that.

I don't treat companies at face value, I treat companies by what's in their best financial interest. Selling privacy allows Apple to club Google/Facebook/Amazon over the head so to speak.
Wealthy companies don’t take risks?
 
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I’m baffled to see a report saying a poll of meagre 1000 people voting means anything. If the number is 100k then I at least can Hope the demographic gets covered decently well. Heck, medical research of COVID variant needs to have 57k cases analysed according to NYTimes!

Guys, do a better job and interview more than just 1000 people. This “report” provides little to no value.
 
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Hard evidence users have no clue about their privacy.

'Where's the cow?' I got these amazing beans for it!

'People' also click on spam, and answer spam calls too. Oh, and give out their passwords, SSN's, pin codes: 'They said it was 'tech support'. Why would they lie?' :rolleyes:

EDIT: That last one happened to my mom. She was distraught. Older and suffering from pre-dementia, I had to explain to her why people would want to get her information. She broke down sobbing, and swore that she would never do it again, and actually was strafed and turned over her computer to me to deal with it. Yes, in her mond, why would someone do that to another human being. It makes me sick that so many prey on the aged because they are like children, innocent, trusting, gullible. People doing that should spend a lot of time in prison, IMO...
 
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Yeah, if only they knew google has already been doing that for years. As well as scanning all gmail and logging all the Wi-Fi passwords… among other things.


they scanned on your device?
They scan everything. And not just for hashes. They scan content to use it for marketing. Remember, to google, you are more the product than the customer to them.
 
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They scan everything. And not just for hashes. They scan content to use it for marketing. Remember, to google, you are more the product than the customer to them.
And they supply a service for the data. Its anonymous. Don’t use Google if you don’t want to. They offer a great service. Works well. Rarely issues.

Notice how you ignored the question. Who else scans on device?
 
An ideal sample size would be 10% of the population. I’m not swayed by this analysis until they have more data. 1,000 records is only ideal for a population of 10,000 which is about a size of a small village/town.
 
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I’m baffled to see a report saying a poll of meagre 1000 people voting means anything. If the number is 100k then I at least can Hope the demographic gets covered decently well. Heck, medical research of COVID variant needs to have 57k cases analysed according to NYTimes!

Guys, do a better job and interview more than just 1000 people. This “report” provides little to no value.

That happens all the time. There generally is a correlation from small sample sizes to a larger population. But you bring up the possibility that they could have chosen people coming out of a paranoiacs support group, or a Google store. I don't have a problem sharing some data with Apple but wouldn't share more than my address with Amazon, and as little as possible to Google. But people LOVE their Alexa listening devices. I'm somewhat nervous about the Home pod, but...
 
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its funny too.. WhatsApp and Instagram are owned by facebook, but clearly that's lost on the morons participating in this survey.
 
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Translation: More Users Use Amazon and Google to Handle Their Personal User Data Than Apple. It’s called the personal validation effect.
 
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A poll of just over a thousand US internet users. OH, I guess that’s fair, there’s only, what, 4 thousand internet users in the US anyway? Plus, it must be REALLY hard to get more than a thousand internet users to provide their opinion on something. So, this is more than likely the BEST possible outcome.

I don’t think it gets much more clickbaity than this :)
You don’t need more than a thousand to be adequately statistically significant (and there is close to zero difference between eg 1000 and 10000) - no matter how large of a group they represent ?
 
And they supply a service for the data. Its anonymous. Don’t use Google if you don’t want to. They offer a great service. Works well. Rarely issues.

Notice how you ignored the question. Who else scans on device?
Anonymous my a**. If you are concerned with privacy and you use google, you are doing exactly the wrong thing. I’m sure google does. And if not, what does it matter, they have all your data anyway.
 
this is exactly 100% the case.
a lot of people don't seem to realise this, either due to being mis-informed or just plain blinkered with bias.
I guess we’re ignoring the fact that the above statement (about Apple’s privacy stance being bs) is complete speculation without evidence. Meanwhile you judge other people’s opinions.

But my wife and I have run a variety of tests and have confirmed that both iPhones and Android phones listen in on our conversations when they are turned on but not using them.
Well, you may think you’ve confirmed it, at least. But these things need to be held to scientific standards.

I've been convinced that Apple is a multilayered NSA project, an arm of a shadow (privatized) government, for a very long time.
Right... they are maybe out to get you. But I assume, then, that you don’t own a single Apple device, right?
 
I'm surprised, and yet not surprised, by how badly Apple fared. Apple is a company that has grown a reputation for greedy and sneaky profit mongering, and is mired with an attitude of secrecy over openness, and a walled garden attitude. None of which are traits that endear trust.
 
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Surveys like this can be essentially meaningless. The questions posed, and the way the questions are asked can often be made to reveal false data.
 
I'm not even sure what is the point of this survey. Most people generally distrust companies whether the topic is on privacy or even the quality of services and products. This feels like an article that's going to be posted in the middle of a tech fan flamewar as some sort of "gotcha" against some perceived "Amazon hater" or "Google hater".
 
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