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More Users Trust Amazon and Google to Handle Their Personal User Data Than Apple, Survey Suggests

Okasian said:
Apple is a for-profit company and their lacklustre hardware sales (relative to the past, and the current competition) will incentivise them to pivot to ever-more intrusive services.

Self-hosting everything apart from email is an option for privacy-minded individuals.
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And tbh, if one was absolute in their praxis on privacy, they would roll their own mail server (but a full mail stack takes a lot of effort, not just a MailHog instance)

Proton still conform to governmental requests I believe. FastMail is also an option.
 
‘Users’ is misleading.
There’s iPhone users and Android users.

iPhone users likely voted Apple as most trustworthy and Android users likely voted Google most trustworthy.

Dumb poll
 
Really depends on how it was conducted. There is a lot of platform hate out there. If you ask Apple users if they trust Google etc you are going to get a different result than if you asked Android users if you trust Google. It goes the other way too. If you ask Android users if they trust Apple you are going to get skewed results vs if you ask Apple users if you trust Apple. The surprising result is Amazon though since you thought they would be equally untrusted like Facebook/Twitter etc.
 
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All of the companies can’t get better than 40% positive from their consumers, that should be a huge red flag for the industry as a hole. Maybe try not to exploit the users? As a consumer I feel like I have no choice no matter who you go with, there all looking up my skirt and there is nothing I can do about it!
 
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Alfieg said:
It's relatively close and somewhat meaningless without the overlay of primary device within the data sample. If there are more Android users for example, they are more likely to trust Google.
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Yup. Of the 1000 surveyed, at most half were apple users, whereas 90+% would be users of google or amazon. If you don't use apple, you're probably unlikely to trust them or have any opinion at all... this is meaningless without crosstab info
 
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I think it makes sense. Amazon and Google aren’t in bed with China and at least with Google actively chose not to support/ participate with that regime. Apple so far has not found a moral compass and instead chooses to follow the dollar.
 
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I think there might be a bit of cognitive dissonance avoidance going on here. People who were tempted into the Google/Amazon ecosystems by the relatively lower price points really want to think they made the right choice. I do agree that Apple has somewhat undermined their privacy high ground with the whole photo scanning thing though.
 
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Alfieg said:
It's relatively close and somewhat meaningless without the overlay of primary device within the data sample. If there are more Android users for example, they are more likely to trust Google.
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Who says it is not the other way round they use Android specifically because they trust Google over Apple? You can't tell.

What you can do - and what they did - is just ask people who they trust. The "Why?" is not a question that this graph answers.
 
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The presentation of this diagram is so intentionally misleading... The question is "How much do you trust each of the following companies..." and the strongest colour used represents distrust, which is also what the results are ordered by. Which means the first thing a person sees when glancing at this diagram is that Facebook is at the top of it (implying they are the most trusted), when it received the "worst" score. Apple gets the 3rd best result and appears near the bottom giving the impression that it did badly.

I'm actually not sure how I would present this result in a more disingenuous way to be honest.
 
I fall into the little trust for any tech company camp, but any Facebook (or Meta, I guess) owned company deserves less than no trust. The thing that strikes me most about the numbers is that they show that many users are still unaware that Whatsapp, Instagram, and Facebook are all the same thing with different names. Of those with more trust, I probably would say that Apple is currently more trustworthy, but with time that culture could change depending on the market and future boards of directors. I think Google has a worse reputation than they deserve, and the problem with Microsoft is that they can't decide if they want to be more like Google or more like Apple.
 
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Make no mistake, Apple's privacy stance is nothing but marketing BS!

The reason they talk about it so much is that they sell actual products and services tied to those products and that is how they get their revenue. They want your data just as much as Google or Facebook does. The difference is they do not want to sell it in the form of ads but use it to sell you more of their products. Google and Facebook largely do not have products, their "Free" software/services are nothing but information harvesting tools so they have to use that data to make money.

If Apple needs to throw you under the privacy bus in favor of revenue and profits they will do it in a second. Have we forgotten last weeks news? Apple paid the communist government of China 250 billion to gain access to those markets. The same government has is probably the worst violator of human rights and privacy does not exist in that country because of that government. Apple had no problem handing over that money. They tried to hide the deal so as not to tarnish their image.
 
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Mlrollin91 said:
Ah, yes. Trust the company that makes its money by selling your data. Makes perfect sense!
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But we should we trust the company who makes $11B/year helping that company sell your data, ie the heretofore secret arrangement between Google and Apple for Google to be the default search engine on Apple products?

Google is no saint but at least they're not the one pretending to not make billions off your data.
 
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Interesting that people distrust facebook and somehow formed that opinion, while not trusting Apple fully. Wonder if the publicity is CSAM related? And while I do believe Google and Amazon take care of your data, Apple takes care of it more to the extent of some of their products lagging behind the competition.
 
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