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More Users Trust Amazon and Google to Handle Their Personal User Data Than Apple, Survey Suggests
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Your photos are already scanned. Think about it, go to the photos app and type a name of some your contacts. The photos apps should show you photos with those people. Type tree, dog, cat, pet, food etc. etc. etc.. The photos apps shows pictures of whatever you are searching for. This is not new to iOS 15. This feature has been enabled for a few versions of iOS. I get your point about CSAM but that's not what you've stated in your posts. And now with iOS 15, type in a word that's on a document in the search field, and if it's in a photo it will show in your results. Photos are already scanned.
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Amazon.. who has a mesh camera system with all the Ring doors in a neighborhood, that the police surveys? The one storing your Alexa voice requests, and selling your info on products your searches don Amazon.. that one?
You're right. I'm just guessing that a lot of people are still salty about that for them to trust Apple less than a companies well known for data mining us to oblivion.
CSAM might also play a part. Gawd, I wish Apple will squash CSAM. That's a can of worms they shouldn't open. The intention is good, like AirTags, but bad actors will find a way to pervert it for nefarious activities.
Correct! If they had a clue about the ramifications of having a Android Phone they wouldn’t be using on. Since google controls search all the constant articles that document their problems are next to invisible. So, they will never know.
Well, I don't know if they are meaningless. It's a poll of people's opinions, so regardless of how informed or uninformed they are, it's supposed to reflect what people think.
Exactly this. Apple only impacts and is familiar to a portion of the overall market, even if you count all the iPhone users. Hence, the very high no opinion number for Apple. If you just look at the "don't trust" numbers then they are tied at #1. Amazon is the real surprise, I personally trust them very little although their main motive is just making money which I have no problem with.
i suppose generally it's about accurate. either that or the company is better at hiding it. i don't know why so many of you guys trust apple when you hear all about those icloud hacks. maybe these are not recent, but they were big enough to be controversial.
Amazing as AWS has had three major outages this month alone. Amazon and Google are in the business of harvesting and mining data, they have entire business models built around this. As much as I might deride Apple sometimes, they don't make their money this way.
I don't completely trust any company but looking at how a company makes its money is a good way to see how they might mis-use their customer data. Apple is pushing to sell 'Privacy' in order to differentiate it from other companies, so I do trust them to some extent as sabotaging that would not be in Apple's best financial interests. Google on the other hands makes all of its money from harvesting your data so I don't use Google products any more. Amazon is somewhere in between, it makes most of its money selling cloud services but also harvests user data for its retail services.
Hopefully Apple has abandoned their insane CSAM ideas so I can relax about potentially doing my own distributed backups. Yes, yes I know this is a good idea anyway but it requires a good bit of work and is a lot less convenient than iCloud.
I don't completely trust any company but looking at how a company makes its money is a good way to see how they might mis-use their customer data. Apple is pushing to sell 'Privacy' in order to differentiate it from other companies, so I do trust them to some extent as sabotaging that would not be in Apple's best financial interests. Google on the other hands makes all of its money from harvesting your data so I don't use Google products any more. Amazon is somewhere in between, it makes most of its money selling cloud services but also harvests user data for its retail services.
Hopefully Apple has abandoned their insane CSAM ideas so I can relax about potentially doing my own distributed backups. Yes, yes I know this is a good idea anyway but it requires a good bit of work and is a lot less convenient than iCloud.
Since i just bought a couple Homepod Minis....
Am i right with the assumption that the Homepod Minis do their voice recognition offline and only send recognized commands to the internet if needed? Or is this only for newer iPhones?
I mean the reaction speed i see on them is a breeze compared to my experience at friends places that use Alexa devices. Or my own little dabblings with my Firestick remote.
Am i right with the assumption that the Homepod Minis do their voice recognition offline and only send recognized commands to the internet if needed? Or is this only for newer iPhones?
I mean the reaction speed i see on them is a breeze compared to my experience at friends places that use Alexa devices. Or my own little dabblings with my Firestick remote.
Lots of "projection" of one's opinions of these companies in how they interpret the poll results.
I read the .pdf of the report and they seemed to follow standard survey protocols. I find the results interesting.
I'm not surprised by the positive numbers for Amazon. Amazon has their mailing address and billing information. These people aren't having mysterious charges show up on the credit card they have on file with Amazon... nor are they receiving unsolicited junk mail as a result of having their mailing address on file. (it probably happens, but very infrequently)
One of the reasons for their opinions is the belief that their devices (particularly their cellphones) are listening in on them.
From the article, "About 7 in 10 Americans say their phone or other tech devices often listen to them in ways they do not agree to"
The article states that the claim is not true. But my wife and I have run a variety of tests and have confirmed that both iPhones and Android phones listen in on our conversations when they are turned on but not using them. The tests were very extensive... including using random number generators to pick words and phrases to use in our conversations (to eliminate the possibility of AI predicting what we might want to see based on websites visited, previous internet searches performed, social media posts, etc.).
I read the .pdf of the report and they seemed to follow standard survey protocols. I find the results interesting.
I'm not surprised by the positive numbers for Amazon. Amazon has their mailing address and billing information. These people aren't having mysterious charges show up on the credit card they have on file with Amazon... nor are they receiving unsolicited junk mail as a result of having their mailing address on file. (it probably happens, but very infrequently)
One of the reasons for their opinions is the belief that their devices (particularly their cellphones) are listening in on them.
From the article, "About 7 in 10 Americans say their phone or other tech devices often listen to them in ways they do not agree to"
The article states that the claim is not true. But my wife and I have run a variety of tests and have confirmed that both iPhones and Android phones listen in on our conversations when they are turned on but not using them. The tests were very extensive... including using random number generators to pick words and phrases to use in our conversations (to eliminate the possibility of AI predicting what we might want to see based on websites visited, previous internet searches performed, social media posts, etc.).
Here is a possible explanation. Two companies have different privacy policies. Company A says we scan your data and use it for targeted marketing. Company B says we don’t scan your data. You are now asked which company you trust more. If you assume all companies scan your data you will likely say A because they admitted it, while B might be but you don’t know. So it’s not a measure of trusting what they do with it but rather trust that they do what they say they are doing.
To me this survey was unclear as to what they were exactly trying to measure.
At first I thought the lack of trust for Apple might have been due to their CSAM (Child Sexual Abuse Material) backlash and criticism surrounding it, but that was a while ago and this poll was recent (conducted between November 4, and November 22, 2021).
I wonder if Apple knew ahead of time about this poll and it's why they scrubbed any mention of CSAM from their sites.
I wonder if Apple knew ahead of time about this poll and it's why they scrubbed any mention of CSAM from their sites.
Do you think Apple rely on a single byte of data from Amazon and/or Google, (or anybody else that doesn't meet their 'standards')?