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To be fair :)...I agree though, I'd like to see a round or oblong watch without any or virtually no Bezel.

Wonder who will be the 1st to crack it?

I think part of the problem is watches 'catch hell' in use, plus you can't 'put a case' on them for protection. You bang them on objects lots of times in everyday use. Especially side hits. If you run the display up to the edge of the watch it could easily crack. So this may be a practical design limitation on smart watches.
 
I think part of the problem is watches 'catch hell' in use, plus you can't 'put a case' on them for protection. You bang them on objects lots of times in everyday use. Especially side hits. If you run the display up to the edge of the watch it could easily crack. So this may be a practical design limitation on smart watches.

Not sure I can agree with that.

There is far far less mass in a watch than a phone and tablet.
It's got potentially steel all around it.
It's strapped to your wrist so it can't fall.
There is no reason why you cannot put a tiny rubber strip around the join between the screen and metal case.

Perhaps it's just the current screen tech in use?
 
To be fair :)

That 'Hardware' You are pointing out that has to always be there, is also 'There' on many, what many would call traditional mens watches these days.

Yeah and all those traditional watches are sporting a traditional watch face, so it wouldn't look out of place on a traditional watch. ;)
 
Based on the link you posted, if accurate. The Apple Watch is thicker than the 360 if you include the sensor. Without the sensor it is only 1 or 2 mm thinner.

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As I pointed out in another thread the sensor is measured at the highest point. The 360 (and almost all watches) is a flat back. The aWatch sensor will sit in-between the ulna and radius bones on the arm (natural divot) and will be perceived as much thinner than it's absolute measurement would indicate.
 
As I pointed out in another thread the sensor is measured at the highest point. The 360 (and almost all watches) is a flat back. The aWatch sensor will sit in-between the ulna and radius bones on the arm (natural divot) and will be perceived as much thinner than it's absolute measurement would indicate.

Um, the bottom may be flat on the 360, but it isn't flat from the edges. It curves much like the Apple Watch. Maybe the measurements are off, as the Apple Watch looks a whole lot smaller than the 360.
 

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Looking at the pictures of the back of the 360, the sensors seem a lot smaller than the aWatch ... anyone suggest a reason for this ? Is its that the a Watch are by default going to be better for being bigger? or that the circles on the back are large just from an aesthetic point of view?
 
Looking at the pictures of the back of the 360, the sensors seem a lot smaller than the aWatch ... anyone suggest a reason for this ? Is its that the a Watch are by default going to be better for being bigger? or that the circles on the back are large just from an aesthetic point of view?

That is a fantastic question, I wondered the same thing when looking at photo's of the Apple Watch. Making a bigger receiver seems smart, not sure why the light would have to be bigger though.
 
Looking at the pictures of the back of the 360, the sensors seem a lot smaller than the aWatch ... anyone suggest a reason for this ? Is its that the a Watch are by default going to be better for being bigger? or that the circles on the back are large just from an aesthetic point of view?

It's well known that LED pulse monitoring is notoriously inaccurate and unreliable, especially when compared to even the cheapest EKG straps. It could be that Apple has perfected the LED sensor much the way Apple did with the finger print reader. This may require a more curved design to implement fully and maybe/probably/could be made smaller in future gens.
 
This may require a more curved design to implement fully and maybe/probably/could be made smaller in future gens.

I think the curved design probably stems from ensuring that the back sits against the skin and matches the dimple between your arm bones. It also looks like there is a fresnel effect on the lens of the lights and sensors to focus light in a particular direction.

It'll be interesting to see how well it works.
 
i've always preferred round watches but functionality wise, I think square screen smart watches will work better.
 
does the watch show me the time, all the time? or it will be the screen with all the icons?
i want every time i look at my watch to show me the time, can it?
 
does the watch show me the time, all the time? or it will be the screen with all the icons?
i want every time i look at my watch to show me the time, can it?
The assumption is that the device will show the time when not in use. But it also sounds like you will need to raise the watch to have the display turn on in an effort to save battery life.
 
I'm torn on design myself. The moto 360 looks beautiful, primarily IMO with the official metal band and silver color. While the apple watch looks hideous, it's got the lines of an 80's casio calculator watch. Now with that said I think Apple has a couple of things going for it. 1) The moto 360 "feels" very cheap IMO, it's too light and feels thin, although I haven't had a chance to feel it with the official metal band, and that's not a statement on it's quality or longevity, just it's "feel". The Apple watch, I'm assuming from reviews, will have the heft and quality "feel" of a high end watch. 2) Apple is pushing this hard as a fashion choice, putting it on magazine covers and other media. If they succeed then it doesn't matter how stupid it looks, look at your average teenager's fashion to understand this. 3) Hey the 80s have come back, this is VERY scary for me having grown up in this time period. So if we can wear chuck taylors, have super slim jeans, roll up the bottoms of our jeans, etc then why not have a fashionable casio calculator watch like phone?

I'm more of a classic guy, I like a watch looking watch, with heft and weight. neither the 360 or the apple watch really float my boat in the end though and I decided I'd rather just stick with my 15 year old watch.
 
I'm torn on design myself. The moto 360 looks beautiful, primarily IMO with the official metal band and silver color. While the apple watch looks hideous, it's got the lines of an 80's casio calculator watch. Now with that said I think Apple has a couple of things going for it. 1) The moto 360 "feels" very cheap IMO, it's too light and feels thin, although I haven't had a chance to feel it with the official metal band, and that's not a statement on it's quality or longevity, just it's "feel". The Apple watch, I'm assuming from reviews, will have the heft and quality "feel" of a high end watch. 2) Apple is pushing this hard as a fashion choice, putting it on magazine covers and other media. If they succeed then it doesn't matter how stupid it looks, look at your average teenager's fashion to understand this. 3) Hey the 80s have come back, this is VERY scary for me having grown up in this time period. So if we can wear chuck taylors, have super slim jeans, roll up the bottoms of our jeans, etc then why not have a fashionable casio calculator watch like phone?

I'm more of a classic guy, I like a watch looking watch, with heft and weight. neither the 360 or the apple watch really float my boat in the end though and I decided I'd rather just stick with my 15 year old watch.

Or it could be that not everyone thinks the Watch looks stupid. :)
 
I'm torn on design myself. The moto 360 looks beautiful, primarily IMO with the official metal band and silver color. While the apple watch looks hideous, it's got the lines of an 80's casio calculator watch. Now with that said I think Apple has a couple of things going for it. 1) The moto 360 "feels" very cheap IMO, it's too light and feels thin, although I haven't had a chance to feel it with the official metal band, and that's not a statement on it's quality or longevity, just it's "feel". The Apple watch, I'm assuming from reviews, will have the heft and quality "feel" of a high end watch. 2) Apple is pushing this hard as a fashion choice, putting it on magazine covers and other media. If they succeed then it doesn't matter how stupid it looks, look at your average teenager's fashion to understand this. 3) Hey the 80s have come back, this is VERY scary for me having grown up in this time period. So if we can wear chuck taylors, have super slim jeans, roll up the bottoms of our jeans, etc then why not have a fashionable casio calculator watch like phone?



I'm more of a classic guy, I like a watch looking watch, with heft and weight. neither the 360 or the apple watch really float my boat in the end though and I decided I'd rather just stick with my 15 year old watch.


I understand what you are saying but apple watch does use very nice material and part of the reason why it looks like a calculator watch is because both AW and Cadio display information that is best presented in a rectangular screen.

Also the digital crown thing is pretty cool.
 
You realize the :apple:Watch isn't exactly real yet, right? Little premature to call it better than anything. Not defending the 360, just trying to inject a little reality that seems to escape many members of this subforum.

As someone else have said, to must people both are the same on that aspect.

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Really? Go to Best Buy.

Yeah, because Best Buy is just around the corner for majority of the people around the world.

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I referred to the Apple Watch as a Samsung Gear look alike.

Someone desperately needs an eye vision test.

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See how much nicer a round watch can look.

I really think it only looks nicer if it displays the analogue watch. For anything else is just not as good as square one.
 
The problem with comparing these two, is that the Moto 360 came out this summer, where as the Apple Watch won't come out until almost a year later, roughly when the v2.0 Moto 360 will likely be out. It's like comparing the S4 to the iPhone 6. With technology advancing so quickly it's not fair to really criticize the first major release of a circular smart watch and compare it with a watch that isn't even out yet.

The Moto 360 has pros and cons obviously, the looks are subjective, some like it and some don't. Compared to many other v1.0 smart watches though it's worlds better.

Android Wear is also a year early compared to Apple Watch's OS. Don't compare the current Android Wear to the demos of Apple Watch, many features sound great in demos but don't always work that way when released. Think of Apple Pay and Apple's demonstration video of tapping your phone, and being done. When in reality many people have to tap, select credit, enter a PIN or sign, etc., and it doesn't always work the first time.
 
The problem with comparing these two, is that the Moto 360 came out this summer, where as the Apple Watch won't come out until almost a year later,

Huh? Moto360 was just released this September. What month do you expect :apple:Watch to be released?

many features sound great in demos but don't always work that way when released. Think of Apple Pay and Apple's demonstration video of tapping your phone, and being done. When in reality many people have to tap, select credit, enter a PIN or sign, etc., and it doesn't always work the first time.

I don't think you have knowledge about Apple as well as you believe you have. :apple:Pay has annoyance because it needs to work with many parties, like credit card co. and retailers, with rules & regulations that Apple can't do anything about it. If you want to talk about features that doesn't work on 1st gen Apple product, why don't you give us examples about what exactly doesn't work on original iPhone or original iPad as demoed on stage since, you know, that'd be apple and apple comparison (no pun intended).
 
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