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Think of Apple Pay and Apple's demonstration video of tapping your phone, and being done. When in reality many people have to tap, select credit, enter a PIN or sign, etc., and it doesn't always work the first time.

It's an accurate representative example of using a credit card (which never requires a PIN) with Apple Pay. I have tap and go several times like that. Certain terminals need to be activated for NFC first (rather than being always on), either by the clerk or yourself from pressing credit. A signature may be required for larger purchases.

Nonsense about it not always working the first time. Retailers that don't support Apple Pay officially like Home Depot (which works with Amex and Visa but not MC) don't count.
 
I don't like the design of the moto at all!! it feels like it's made by a cnc machine and that's it! it's way too simple and not elegant at all! It's like a mechanical engineer made it for his final project
 
The cutoff of the screen at the bottom of the 360 would drive me absolutely nuts, lol. And yes the :apple:Watch looks a lot more designed as a total piece than the 360.
 
The Apple Watch looks so much better in every facet, every detail, and from every angle. The Apple Watch looks like a ridiculous amount of time, money, and thought went into every aspect of its design process, in stark contrast to all other smartwatches currently available. No one can seriously look at those comparison pictures and say the Moto looks better unless they strictly mean it's shape being round as opposed to square, in which case that would be their opinion. Without lying though, no one could say the Apple Watch doesn't win hands down on every other level. The bands and how they attach to each device is all you need to look at to say an unimaginable time was spent on every detail about the Apple Watch compared to the Moto or others. Apple's designers are the only ones that understood it's worn and thus must be able to be personalized
 
I hadn't realised the Moto 360 was so solid and slab-like. It does look good from straight on, but terrible from every other angle.

I'm just sad that the apple watch isn't half the thickness it is. Presumably one day it will be.
 
Whereas on the Apple watch.

They have amazingly taken a rectangle rounded the corners off, flat screen on the front and put a fake winder on the side to try pretend it looks like a real watch.

Stunning innovation, really thinking outside the box on that one. :D

I do wonder what they did during the afternoon after they spent all morning on the design. ;)

That's the genius of the design. Familiar yet visionary at the same time. You buying one brah?
 
That's the genius of the design. Familiar yet visionary at the same time. You buying one brah?

Not at the moment.
I bought an iPad on the 1st launch day as it was a device I could see being very useful and answered a lot of needs.

I don't need a watch, and I need a device that's basically just a remote screen for the iPhone a few feet away I have to keep with me, even less.

In the same manner, if the iPad needed you to have a MacBook with you, for the iPad to be fully functional I would not of bought an iPad either.

When the watch is actually a proper device in it's own right, AND the batter life it longer AND it's not so FAT/Thick. Then I may be interested.

At the moment it seems more an annoyance than a benefit.
 
At the moment it seems more an annoyance than a benefit.

Yet you seem to be quite obsessed with something you don't plan to buy and think is more annoyance than benefit. :D

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Whereas on the Apple watch.

They have amazingly taken a rectangle rounded the corners off, flat screen on the front and put a fake winder on the side to try pretend it looks like a real watch.

Stunning innovation, really thinking outside the box on that one. :D

I do wonder what they did during the afternoon after they spent all morning on the design. ;)

As Jony Ive says:

We won't do something different for different's sake. Designers cave in to marketing, to the corporate agenda, which is sort of 'oh it looks like the last one, can't we make it look different?' Well no, there's no reason to."

"We have a strong philosophy – you could call it formulaic or you could say it's a philosophy – and we will develop product to that philosophy. When some big things change, the objects will appear different, the objects will be made from other materials. But I think it's wrong to make something different for the sake of being different."

If you think Watch isn't thinking outside the box then surely all these Android Wear watches that desperately try to mimic a traditional watch aren't either.
 
Not at the moment.

I don't need a watch, and I need a device that's basically just a remote screen for the iPhone a few feet away I have to keep with me, even less.

In the same manner, if the iPad needed you to have a MacBook with you, for the iPad to be fully functional I would not of bought an iPad either.

When the watch is actually a proper device in it's own right, AND the batter life it longer AND it's not so FAT/Thick. Then I may be interested.

At the moment it seems more an annoyance than a benefit.


If you don't need a watch, then I doubt a thinner, long lasting watch is going to get you interested in the Apple watch. Having said that, I still reckon you're going to buy one. Just look at your avatar... you can't wait!

For any device to be useful today it needs to be connected to the internet. What better way for it to happen than via your phone. I don't think we're going to see this pairing go away anytime soon brah.

Me personally, I can't wait! This watch is going to make my life complete. And by complete, I mean not really much better that how it is today.
 
If you don't need a watch, then I doubt a thinner, long lasting watch is going to get you interested in the Apple watch. Having said that, I still reckon you're going to buy one. Just look at your avatar... you can't wait!

For any device to be useful today it needs to be connected to the internet. What better way for it to happen than via your phone. I don't think we're going to see this pairing go away anytime soon brah.

Me personally, I can't wait! This watch is going to make my life complete. And by complete, I mean not really much better that how it is today.

Anyone have an idea whats the thickness of the Apple Watch ?
 
Anyone have an idea whats the thickness of the Apple Watch ?

For the 42mm the case will be about 10.6mm,

At the highest point of the sensor the 42mm will be about 12.46mm

Keep in mind the highest point will be just that, a point and will fit in the natural indentation between the ulna and radius bones.
 
I'm actually starting to really like the Apple Watch design. I figured it would take a while to grow on me.
 
For the 42mm the case will be about 10.6mm,

At the highest point of the sensor the 42mm will be about 12.46mm

Keep in mind the highest point will be just that, a point and will fit in the natural indentation between the ulna and radius bones.

wow !! I was scared it was going to be too thick ... looking at pictures of the Apple Watch at certain angles gave me the impression it was much more thicker then that !!

Heck my personal watch I wear every day is thicker then the Apple Watch !

I am now happy ! :)
 
Haha crazy trolls are still saying the apple watch is too thick at 12.5mm lolz
 
Haha crazy trolls are still saying the apple watch is too thick at 12.5mm lolz

I think you just need to accept that everyone like different things.
The trend in recent years has been for many mens watches of a certain style to get larger and chunkier.
Not everyone obviously likes this type of look.

Myself, I would much prefer the classic and subtle mens dress watch, where, it's very much a case of less is more. Classy, slim and elegant.
For myself, thinner the better.

Many men of course like the POWER DRESSING look a heavy thick and chunky watch gives them, but again, not everyone does.

It does not necessarily mean someone is a troll if they think the Apple device is thick and chunky, as to some/many it may be too thick for their personal tastes.

We all like different things and would be a sad boring world if everyone liked and wanted the same thing.

Like the Round vs Rectangle argument, some just like the look of a round watch face, and no amount of arguments is going to change their preference.

Fact: If Apple HAD made a round watch, with a UI that took advantage of a round face, then everyone would be jumping up and down here about how round watches are more desirable.

Likewise, if the Apple watch was a lot thinner, and a Samsung watch was the thickness of the current Apple watch, then everyone here would be commenting on how thick, chunky the Samsung model was, and how thin and elegant the Apple device was in comparison.

That's just how it goes.

But as I say, I think we need to just be happy to accept we all like different things in all walks of like and that includes the look/style/design of a watch.
 
I think you just need to accept that everyone like different things.

Yeah, everyone likes different things.

But one thing is "liking", other things is presenting "opinions" as facts.

Specially from idiots that never have seen the watch at all. Just pics on the net. Some didn't even have seen photos, just 3D renders and are already judging.

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Myself, I would much prefer the classic and subtle mens dress watch, where, it's very much a case of less is more. Classy, slim and elegant.
For myself, thinner the better.

Then you're against the current fashion (I'm not taking about autumn/winter kind of fashion, but decades-long fashion).

People use now Chronos and Diver watches with suits.

However, for a smart watch to work well, it still needs a little of height because of the battery, mainly.
 
I saw an Almost 360 at Best Buy today. It did not feel premium at all. Maybe it's just me but I like my watches to have some weight to them. every watch I've ever worn had some heft to it. Even ones that weren't very expensive. The Almost 360 felt way too light for my liking. Honestly some of the plastic fitness bands felt heavier than the 360. If that watch face was square instead of round none of the tech blogs would've drooled over it the way they have.
 
Review of LG G Watch R:

http://blogs.barrons.com/techtrader...intriguing-smartwatch-is-not-quite-there-yet/

The G Watch R distinguishes itself by having a round face, but the thing makes no attempt to stand out by its looks: it is decidedly dull. Its band and case look like an ordinary black sport watch, with a very plastic feel. If it didn’t have electronic functions, the G Watch R might sell for $50.

In September, at the Apple Watch unveiling Apple (AAPL) held in Cupertino, I viewed Apple’s wearable offering up close. It is beautiful. The styling and the materials are so good, it would be worth the price on looks alone. People laugh at the square design of the thing, but as the G Watch R shows, the shape doesn’t matter if the watch is basically not attractive.

I think where Apple will have a real leg up on the competition is in the build quality of Watch. This review says the G Watch R looks dull and feels plasticky. I saw the Almost 360 at Best Buy. While it looked ok from afar when you looked at it up close and held it in your hands it didn't feel premium at all. Nice watches have heft to them. The 360 was so light it almost felt like a dummy model with no electronics inside. All indications are the Watch and Watch Edition have heft to them, like a real mechanical watch. I don't see most Android Wear makers being able to compete with Apple on build quality. And I think they'll really be screwed if someone like Tag decides to jump in and uses Android Wear for its OS.
 
Review of LG G Watch R:

http://blogs.barrons.com/techtrader...intriguing-smartwatch-is-not-quite-there-yet/

I think where Apple will have a real leg up on the competition is in the build quality of Watch. This review says the G Watch R looks dull and feels plasticky. I saw the Almost 360 at Best Buy. While it looked ok from afar when you looked at it up close and held it in your hands it didn't feel premium at all. Nice watches have heft to them. The 360 was so light it almost felt like a dummy model with no electronics inside. All indications are the Watch and Watch Edition have heft to them, like a real mechanical watch. I don't see most Android Wear makers being able to compete with Apple on build quality. And I think they'll really be screwed if someone like Tag decides to jump in and uses Android Wear for its OS.

EDIT: I saw this photo of Sony's latest smartwatch on cnet. Yikes, build quality looks terrible. If this is the only way to get a waterproof watch then I'm glad Watch isn't waterproof.

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Text looks really small and hard to read too. I'm guessing Android Wear on screens that aren't high res isn't an eye please experience (kind of like iOS 7 on the iPad 2).

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Also a note on battery life with this Sony watch. Maybe Watch's battery life isn't that bad compared to the competition.

It's no use having a smartwatch if you don't use the smart functions though, and when you do, you'll really see that battery life take a hit. Using the GPS tracking, connecting to a set of Bluetooth headphones and regularly using the voice control, I could easily drain the battery in a day. With less intense use, I'd say you could average a day and a half. You'll almost certainly want to give it a charge every night -- which, sadly, is the case with most Android Wear devices.
 
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Apple watch IS waterproof.

If Apple says you can wash your hands, Run and Cycle in the rain, it's waterproof and nothing they can do about it when you take your watch back if it stops in the water, as they will have no way to know what water caused it.

On Battery life, I'm sure the Apple watch will also be terrible if you make the watch work for a lot of the time. And it I'm sure why Apple are not allowing proper apps, they know will drain it fast, and give the watch a bad media coverage.

Same with many gadgets.

Battery life could vary between 3 hours or 18 hours depending on how you use it with what app.

Let's wait till there are games that push the CPU/GPU in the watch, and you are playing the game constantly.

THAT is a true test of real batter life.

Not glancing a a fee notifications and the time a few times a day.
 
Apple watch IS waterproof.

If Apple says you can wash your hands, Run and Cycle in the rain, it's waterproof and nothing they can do about it when you take your watch back if it stops in the water, as they will have no way to know what water caused it.

Water resistant and water proof are two different things.
 
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