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Motorola 1.5GHz G4... G4 PowerBooks?
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If it has to be a G4 then I really hope they do a serious price drop and tweak up many of the features. There have been many discussions on improvements besides the processor, and I guess for the right price and to switch soon rather than 6-8 months time, I could be tempted to a G4PB... shame though given code optimisation over the next few years...
Originally posted by ~Shard~
How long did that post take you to write? That's quite a thorough, comprehensive post! You get an A for effort from me, ffakr! Well done!
Except Apple doesn't use IBM's Compiler they use their own custom GCC that, as of yet, they still haven't updated their enhancements back to GCC.
The compiler engineers also design with the knowledge of making sure the run-times for Java, ObjC and Carbonlibs are in harmony.
If Apple had a choice they streamline it solely for ObjC/C/ObjC++ but technologists don't always make the best politicians.
At NeXT we didn't have to concern ourselves with Legacy other than ObjC legacy from NXHost to NSHost, etc..
The team Apple has is brilliant and the leadership in Engineering is world class.
Nothing but upside with the teams they have in place.
My bet is the iMac gets the new high-end Moto and the iBook gets the highend G3/Altivec from IBM while Apple releases the 970Fx for PowerMac and reveals a time frame for the PB G5 and offers the newer G4 with price drops on the entire line to satisfy customers.
I'm targeting the PB G5 to be viewed at WWDC and released in August. I'm guessing' the focus will be turned to newer devices until WWDC.
All speculation but a good illusionist keeps one distracted.
Reason # 38,417 to wait for a G5 PowerBook.
And this folks is why it will eventually pay off to wait for a G5 PowerBook. I keep reading the occasional post about how my G4 PowerBook works perfectly fine and why people are whining about G5's when the G4 runs everything perfectly fine. Well sure it does. But don't you think at some point in the next 3 years Apple is going to optimize OS X's code for the G5 to an extent that it gets that 30+/-% speed boost? At which point everyone on a G4 is going to be crying foul that Apple is leaving them in the dust. Some of you may not have problems going out and buying Apple's latest and greatest once every 2 years but if I'm going to be spending 3+ grand its got to last a while. (A while in my case being at least 3-4 years.) The jump from a G4 to a G5 is such a large leap that waiting almost seems the prudent thing to do. In my case it's excruciatingly prudent.
To quote Dr. Smith: "The pain the pain of it all."
And this folks is why it will eventually pay off to wait for a G5 PowerBook. I keep reading the occasional post about how my G4 PowerBook works perfectly fine and why people are whining about G5's when the G4 runs everything perfectly fine. Well sure it does. But don't you think at some point in the next 3 years Apple is going to optimize OS X's code for the G5 to an extent that it gets that 30+/-% speed boost? At which point everyone on a G4 is going to be crying foul that Apple is leaving them in the dust. Some of you may not have problems going out and buying Apple's latest and greatest once every 2 years but if I'm going to be spending 3+ grand its got to last a while. (A while in my case being at least 3-4 years.) The jump from a G4 to a G5 is such a large leap that waiting almost seems the prudent thing to do. In my case it's excruciatingly prudent.
To quote Dr. Smith: "The pain the pain of it all."
Re: Reason # 38,417 to wait for a G5 PowerBook.
don't you think that if you buy a G4 today, you will buy another in three years anyway. so what's the point in whining?
you buy what you need and when you need, and if you so much need the most powerful laptop, then you will surely buy another laptop within the mentioned 3 years time frame and at that time you will not care if the previous laptop was a G4 or a G5. then you will whine again wanting a G7 prototype from ibm r&d while apple has only "lowly" G6 in production.
it sounds to me that you are not in a NEED of a laptop right now, otherwise you would be quiet and buy one now.
don't you think that if you buy a G4 today, you will buy another in three years anyway. so what's the point in whining?
you buy what you need and when you need, and if you so much need the most powerful laptop, then you will surely buy another laptop within the mentioned 3 years time frame and at that time you will not care if the previous laptop was a G4 or a G5. then you will whine again wanting a G7 prototype from ibm r&d while apple has only "lowly" G6 in production.
it sounds to me that you are not in a NEED of a laptop right now, otherwise you would be quiet and buy one now.
I am really happy that PB rumors are back. It was so quite on the site for a while. And now just a little piece of information that means more or less nothing and BANG! thousend of posts !
Pathetic
90 MHZ improvement in the last 6 months from Moto. Pathetic...except its even worse...
The article actually says:
"The chip is expected in production quantities sometime in the next 3 to 6 months."
Too pathetic for words, IMHO.
90 MHZ improvement in the last 6 months from Moto. Pathetic...except its even worse...
The article actually says:
"The chip is expected in production quantities sometime in the next 3 to 6 months."
Too pathetic for words, IMHO.
Re: Pathetic
3-6...May to August... Yep, doesn't look good.
Originally posted by The Shadow
90 MHZ improvement in the last 6 months from Moto. Pathetic...except its even worse...
The article actually says:
"The chip is expected in production quantities sometime in the next 3 to 6 months."
Too pathetic for words, IMHO.
3-6...May to August... Yep, doesn't look good.
To be honest, what is everyone using their laptops for that requires a g5? You think you need a 64bit processor? Have the need to address 64bits of memory? You do realise that you will not gain any speed just cause the processor is 64bit....sure the processor is more mature than the G4, doing more per cycle, but the 64bit part, just ignore that, you can let it go, it doesnt matter, just put it down.
I mean, I have a 1Ghz powerbook, it rocks for what I do, I don't try to do too much rendering on it, I mean, I understand its strengths and weaknesses. I have my desktop for the hard stuff, which it excells at. Also, I just don't see the situation where a massive amount of mobile power is needed
Director "Oh my god, we havent rendered these 5 minutes of footage and we are going live at Cannes in 30 minutes"
Fearless G5 Powerbook user "Step aside, I got the POWER!!!"
*crowd gasps*
Bystander "My god, look at him address all that memory"
Bystander 2 "But what about the latency?"
Bystander "HEATHEN, the power of christ compells you, OUT!"
and so on....
Its just as simple as the right tool for the right job...
of course, if you want to pose and go
"hey baby, this is full on g5 power right here, does it do it for you?"
*girl melts*
then its important I guess....
I mean, with what I do, I can't really make this thing break a sweat (safari, terminal, mail, itunes, bittorrent) and yeah, if I was trying to render a hour long movie in final cut pro, then yeah, it would suck...
so yeah, work it out
I mean, I have a 1Ghz powerbook, it rocks for what I do, I don't try to do too much rendering on it, I mean, I understand its strengths and weaknesses. I have my desktop for the hard stuff, which it excells at. Also, I just don't see the situation where a massive amount of mobile power is needed
Director "Oh my god, we havent rendered these 5 minutes of footage and we are going live at Cannes in 30 minutes"
Fearless G5 Powerbook user "Step aside, I got the POWER!!!"
*crowd gasps*
Bystander "My god, look at him address all that memory"
Bystander 2 "But what about the latency?"
Bystander "HEATHEN, the power of christ compells you, OUT!"
and so on....
Its just as simple as the right tool for the right job...
of course, if you want to pose and go
"hey baby, this is full on g5 power right here, does it do it for you?"
*girl melts*
then its important I guess....
I mean, with what I do, I can't really make this thing break a sweat (safari, terminal, mail, itunes, bittorrent) and yeah, if I was trying to render a hour long movie in final cut pro, then yeah, it would suck...
so yeah, work it out
bilba is right there
very good points.
what i would hope for were higher resolution displays, longer battery life and lower prices.
12"
SXGA (1280*960)
1 GHZ
512MB (2 dimms)
radeon 9600
60gb 4200 (upgradable)
slot combodrive (upgradable)
ca. 7 hours battery with internet/office usage
2 kg
$1899.-
(real good subnotebooks, and this would be one, are not cheaper but more expensive than compareable but bigger models; reason, more tech on less space)
15"
SXGA+ (1400*1050)
1.33 GHZ
512MB (1 dimm)
radeon 9600
60gb 5400 (upgradable)
slot superdrive
ca. 6 hours battery with internet/office usage
2.5 kg
$1999.-
17"
WSXGA+ (1680*1050)
1.5 GHZ
512MB (1dimm)
radeon 9700
60gb 7200 (upgradable in size)
slot superdrive
ca. 5 hours battery with internet/office usage
2.75 kg
$2499
+all thouse things you got with the actual models + backlit keyboard for all 3 models.
i would add a joystick to the BTO (like toshiba and ibm have got) - make it expensive and declare that it is only good for real pros (so stupid endusers hopefully dont buy it); cause i fact a joystick is a lot faster than a track/touchpad)
(ibooks should get the lower resolution displayes: 12" 1024, 14" 1280*960, smaller hard drives build in (40 gb) but all upgradable and max speed 5400 not 7200, the radeon 9000 not 9600, no superdrive at all (all combos), but still high battery life (both models about ca. 5-6 hours) that should still be below the 12" powerbook, cpus should be 1ghz and 1.25ghz, should be the same cpus,
a better clickpad under the touchpad would be nice, maybe one that can be programmed that it got a left and right side (for 2 button))
using standard displays would also reduce the production costs.
a pixel error free garantuee would be nice to have on each model for free.
but of course we wont see all of these changes, well, maybe almost none of them, and i ll be dissapointed :<.
so i ll wait into the future until apple brings out a notebook that is on a par with and here and there better than actual models from other manufacturers regarding display resolution, battery life, ergonomics, and weight.
the pbooks got a great OS and a great CPU and a great case, but wel, thats not all you need.
so i am waiting for a powermac g5 rev. b. and if apple doesnt bring on real hammer notebooks, i ll go and buy something else - i am not mac focused - though mac os is the best end user/workstation (and for some things it seems also server os) i know
(reason enough to switch again)
very good points.
what i would hope for were higher resolution displays, longer battery life and lower prices.
12"
SXGA (1280*960)
1 GHZ
512MB (2 dimms)
radeon 9600
60gb 4200 (upgradable)
slot combodrive (upgradable)
ca. 7 hours battery with internet/office usage
2 kg
$1899.-
(real good subnotebooks, and this would be one, are not cheaper but more expensive than compareable but bigger models; reason, more tech on less space)
15"
SXGA+ (1400*1050)
1.33 GHZ
512MB (1 dimm)
radeon 9600
60gb 5400 (upgradable)
slot superdrive
ca. 6 hours battery with internet/office usage
2.5 kg
$1999.-
17"
WSXGA+ (1680*1050)
1.5 GHZ
512MB (1dimm)
radeon 9700
60gb 7200 (upgradable in size)
slot superdrive
ca. 5 hours battery with internet/office usage
2.75 kg
$2499
+all thouse things you got with the actual models + backlit keyboard for all 3 models.
i would add a joystick to the BTO (like toshiba and ibm have got) - make it expensive and declare that it is only good for real pros (so stupid endusers hopefully dont buy it); cause i fact a joystick is a lot faster than a track/touchpad)
(ibooks should get the lower resolution displayes: 12" 1024, 14" 1280*960, smaller hard drives build in (40 gb) but all upgradable and max speed 5400 not 7200, the radeon 9000 not 9600, no superdrive at all (all combos), but still high battery life (both models about ca. 5-6 hours) that should still be below the 12" powerbook, cpus should be 1ghz and 1.25ghz, should be the same cpus,
a better clickpad under the touchpad would be nice, maybe one that can be programmed that it got a left and right side (for 2 button))
using standard displays would also reduce the production costs.
a pixel error free garantuee would be nice to have on each model for free.
but of course we wont see all of these changes, well, maybe almost none of them, and i ll be dissapointed :<.
so i ll wait into the future until apple brings out a notebook that is on a par with and here and there better than actual models from other manufacturers regarding display resolution, battery life, ergonomics, and weight.
the pbooks got a great OS and a great CPU and a great case, but wel, thats not all you need.
so i am waiting for a powermac g5 rev. b. and if apple doesnt bring on real hammer notebooks, i ll go and buy something else - i am not mac focused - though mac os is the best end user/workstation (and for some things it seems also server os) i know
(reason enough to switch again)
Re: Apple didn't just start work on this Yesterday
what a stupid pile of sh... you are talking there.
centrino, (centrino "2" and centrino celeron) technology is crushing the market since mid/end last year.
ppl stop buying stupid P4-Mobile or stupid AMD cpus for notebooks (regarding notebooks amd cpus consume too much energy and produce too much heat).
what would really be interesting is if intel put clarkman (their amd liscensed 64 bit extention) onto the pentium-m (centrino).
that would be hell for apple - cause the pentium-m beats (defacto) the G4 at the moment. (pentium m are available from 1.4-1.7 ghz atm - soon there will be speedbumps).
these cpus are used in notebooks that dont even use their fan most of the time - they are SILENT besides the harddrive which are the same apple uses - harddrives (2.5) are almost silent as well.
and they consume LESS power. you can have normal x86 notebooks with 5-7 hours running time (just look at ibm, toshiba or acer notebooks)
so WTF are you mor*n ;p talking about?
64bit in notebooks? well if you want a desktop pc that looks like a notebook - yes!
amd-64 notebooks run 2-3 hours and if you do anything but almost nothing they run even shorter and the fan starts turning - like the P4-Mobile back in days ;p.
they are just CRAP. (and a lot worse than any G4) - 64bit doesnt help anything there.
there is the first PUBLIC BETA of 64bit windows xp out - a PUBLIC BETA by microsoft - lol ;p.
so besides that 64bit will bring nothing but future proofness (thats the only real point all those g5 into powerbook whiners really have - maybe besides the point that the g5 may really be cheaper to produce, but well the g3+altivec would be even cheaper again if ibm brought that ;p).
it will bring nothing as long as there is no software.
almost the same with the G5s.
the G5 isnt so "wow" because of 64bit, it is so WOW because its FAST, the bus is fast, the system is fast, the cpu is fast. and it might be even faster if it was 32bit only ;p (even if you dont like that to hear).
but in desktop and server use i see a sense to use 64bit NOW. 4gb are not much. if you go sound or video or rendering or 3d it is eaten away fast, not talking about servers here.
what a stupid pile of sh... you are talking there.
centrino, (centrino "2" and centrino celeron) technology is crushing the market since mid/end last year.
ppl stop buying stupid P4-Mobile or stupid AMD cpus for notebooks (regarding notebooks amd cpus consume too much energy and produce too much heat).
what would really be interesting is if intel put clarkman (their amd liscensed 64 bit extention) onto the pentium-m (centrino).
that would be hell for apple - cause the pentium-m beats (defacto) the G4 at the moment. (pentium m are available from 1.4-1.7 ghz atm - soon there will be speedbumps).
these cpus are used in notebooks that dont even use their fan most of the time - they are SILENT besides the harddrive which are the same apple uses - harddrives (2.5) are almost silent as well.
and they consume LESS power. you can have normal x86 notebooks with 5-7 hours running time (just look at ibm, toshiba or acer notebooks)
so WTF are you mor*n ;p talking about?
64bit in notebooks? well if you want a desktop pc that looks like a notebook - yes!
amd-64 notebooks run 2-3 hours and if you do anything but almost nothing they run even shorter and the fan starts turning - like the P4-Mobile back in days ;p.
they are just CRAP. (and a lot worse than any G4) - 64bit doesnt help anything there.
there is the first PUBLIC BETA of 64bit windows xp out - a PUBLIC BETA by microsoft - lol ;p.
so besides that 64bit will bring nothing but future proofness (thats the only real point all those g5 into powerbook whiners really have - maybe besides the point that the g5 may really be cheaper to produce, but well the g3+altivec would be even cheaper again if ibm brought that ;p).
it will bring nothing as long as there is no software.
almost the same with the G5s.
the G5 isnt so "wow" because of 64bit, it is so WOW because its FAST, the bus is fast, the system is fast, the cpu is fast. and it might be even faster if it was 32bit only ;p (even if you dont like that to hear).
but in desktop and server use i see a sense to use 64bit NOW. 4gb are not much. if you go sound or video or rendering or 3d it is eaten away fast, not talking about servers here.
I think the original poster was commenting on the fact that Mac laptops (i.e. iBooks) have only just left G3 processors behind (i.e. upgrading to G4s) with the implication being that there will be G4 laptops (albeit iBooks) for years to come. Just nitpicking
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Let's remember this article is mearly saying that Moto has some new G4 chips on the way. Anything to do with another G4 PowerBook is purely speculation (although my opinion is that Apple will use them, and this is not necessarily a bad thing).
I second all those people that say that the current G4 PowerBooks are very good machines - all of them.
"Public Beta" ?? Not quite....
This is not quite the whole truth.
Windows XP 64-Bit Edition for IA64 systems was released last winter - almost a full year ago. Windows Server 2003 64-Bit Edition (IA64) has been available for even longer. This code was developed as Windows 2000 64-Bit for the Alpha systems, so it has been in testing for a long time. (Win2K 64-bit for Alpha was released in official Win2K beta testing, but didn't ship in the Win2K final version because Alpha support was withdrawn.)
What's in "customer preview" is Windows XP 64-Bit Edition for 64-Bit Extended Systems (AMD64).
The preview is the already released 64-bit code, it's just been recompiled for the AMD64 ISA. So it isn't all new code, and it isn't a fresh 64-bit port of the 32-bit codebase - it's existing, tested code with relatively little new code (little beyond a few processor-specific support modules, like any new hardware support).
So your attempt to compare Windows XP 64-Bit for the AMD64 with the OS X Public Beta is more than a little misleading. The OS X Public Beta was a feature-incomplete early version of OS 9 grafted onto NeXT layered on FreeBSD. The AMD64 version of XP is mostly a recompile of the already released and shipping IA64 version of XP....
More info:
Download XP AMD64: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/downloads/upgrade.asp
XP IA64 Overview: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/techinfo/planning/techoverview/default.asp
Windows Server 2003 64-Bit: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/64bit/default.mspx
(including download of Windows Server 2003 64-Bit for AMD64)
This is not quite the whole truth.
Windows XP 64-Bit Edition for IA64 systems was released last winter - almost a full year ago. Windows Server 2003 64-Bit Edition (IA64) has been available for even longer. This code was developed as Windows 2000 64-Bit for the Alpha systems, so it has been in testing for a long time. (Win2K 64-bit for Alpha was released in official Win2K beta testing, but didn't ship in the Win2K final version because Alpha support was withdrawn.)
What's in "customer preview" is Windows XP 64-Bit Edition for 64-Bit Extended Systems (AMD64).
The preview is the already released 64-bit code, it's just been recompiled for the AMD64 ISA. So it isn't all new code, and it isn't a fresh 64-bit port of the 32-bit codebase - it's existing, tested code with relatively little new code (little beyond a few processor-specific support modules, like any new hardware support).
So your attempt to compare Windows XP 64-Bit for the AMD64 with the OS X Public Beta is more than a little misleading. The OS X Public Beta was a feature-incomplete early version of OS 9 grafted onto NeXT layered on FreeBSD. The AMD64 version of XP is mostly a recompile of the already released and shipping IA64 version of XP....
More info:
Download XP AMD64: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/downloads/upgrade.asp
XP IA64 Overview: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/techinfo/planning/techoverview/default.asp
Windows Server 2003 64-Bit: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/64bit/default.mspx
(including download of Windows Server 2003 64-Bit for AMD64)
Re: g4 vs g5
Why?
Other than buzzword-compliance, what will be the benefit of an HT bus? Will the IDE controller run any faster? Better disk performance? Will the CardBus (PCMCIA) card be faster? Higher bandwidth from 802.11g? Faster video?
Not really.... HT might be nice for the mobo engineers (fewer "wires" needed on the mobo), but considering the limited I/O bandwidth of a laptop I don't think that it will give one iota of improved performance for the end user.
Don't get me wrong - HT is good technology. It just won't make any perceptible difference to the end-user of a laptop. IMO HT shouldn't be a "must have" feature, it's invisible infrastructure.
Why?
Other than buzzword-compliance, what will be the benefit of an HT bus? Will the IDE controller run any faster? Better disk performance? Will the CardBus (PCMCIA) card be faster? Higher bandwidth from 802.11g? Faster video?
Not really.... HT might be nice for the mobo engineers (fewer "wires" needed on the mobo), but considering the limited I/O bandwidth of a laptop I don't think that it will give one iota of improved performance for the end user.
Don't get me wrong - HT is good technology. It just won't make any perceptible difference to the end-user of a laptop. IMO HT shouldn't be a "must have" feature, it's invisible infrastructure.
IBM's 980
Sure, I'd like a G5 today.
But, you have to remember that after the 970 is the 980, at 65 nm. This will be a great laptop chip. And, I wonder, if this isn't the chip Apple will put into their laptop. This would require no form factor change.
Sure, I'd like a G5 today.
But, you have to remember that after the 970 is the 980, at 65 nm. This will be a great laptop chip. And, I wonder, if this isn't the chip Apple will put into their laptop. This would require no form factor change.
possibble ideas for new G4
I suspect the new G4 could be used for the iBooks , eMac , and low-end iMac ( combo drive ) until the end of 2004 . Apple could update the G5 Powermacs in March to 2.5 GHZ. Once the G5 Powermacs are updated , the 20 inch iMac could be updated to a 2 GHZ G5 model . Then after that , if there is no heat issues with the 970FX , then the 15 " and 17 " Powerbooks could be updated in August otherwise expect the Powerbooks to get updated in May with the 1.5 GHZ G4 . iBooks updated with 1.5 GHZ G4 could be announced in July . If there are no heat issues with the 970FX for the Powerbooks , Apple should stop producing the G4 17 " Powerbooks during April and let their remaining inventories shrink down to 0 . Apple should stop producing the G4 15 " Powerbooks during June and let their remaining inventories shrink down to 0 . eMac could get the new 1.5 GHZ G4 in May , just in time for school purchases. After the 20 inch iMac update with a 970FX ( maybe in April ) , the low-end 15 " iMac 1.5 GHZ G4 ( combo drive ) along with the updated eMac could be released in May .
I suspect the new G4 could be used for the iBooks , eMac , and low-end iMac ( combo drive ) until the end of 2004 . Apple could update the G5 Powermacs in March to 2.5 GHZ. Once the G5 Powermacs are updated , the 20 inch iMac could be updated to a 2 GHZ G5 model . Then after that , if there is no heat issues with the 970FX , then the 15 " and 17 " Powerbooks could be updated in August otherwise expect the Powerbooks to get updated in May with the 1.5 GHZ G4 . iBooks updated with 1.5 GHZ G4 could be announced in July . If there are no heat issues with the 970FX for the Powerbooks , Apple should stop producing the G4 17 " Powerbooks during April and let their remaining inventories shrink down to 0 . Apple should stop producing the G4 15 " Powerbooks during June and let their remaining inventories shrink down to 0 . eMac could get the new 1.5 GHZ G4 in May , just in time for school purchases. After the 20 inch iMac update with a 970FX ( maybe in April ) , the low-end 15 " iMac 1.5 GHZ G4 ( combo drive ) along with the updated eMac could be released in May .
possibble ideas for new G4
I suspect the new G4 could be used for the iBooks , eMac , and low-end iMac ( combo drive ) until the end of 2004 . Apple could update the G5 Powermacs in March to 2.5 GHZ. Once the G5 Powermacs are updated , the 20 inch iMac could be updated to a 2 GHZ G5 model . Then after that , if there is no heat issues with the 970FX , then the 15 " and 17 " Powerbooks could be updated in August otherwise expect the Powerbooks to get updated in May with the 1.5 GHZ G4 . iBooks updated with 1.5 GHZ G4 could be announced in July . If there are no heat issues with the 970FX for the Powerbooks , Apple should stop producing the G4 17 " Powerbooks during April and let their remaining inventories shrink down to 0 . Apple should stop producing the G4 15 " Powerbooks during June and let their remaining inventories shrink down to 0 . eMac could get the new 1.5 GHZ G4 in May , just in time for school purchases. After the 20 inch iMac update with a 970FX ( maybe in April ) , the low-end 15 " iMac 1.5 GHZ G4 ( combo drive ) along with the updated eMac could be released in May .
I suspect the new G4 could be used for the iBooks , eMac , and low-end iMac ( combo drive ) until the end of 2004 . Apple could update the G5 Powermacs in March to 2.5 GHZ. Once the G5 Powermacs are updated , the 20 inch iMac could be updated to a 2 GHZ G5 model . Then after that , if there is no heat issues with the 970FX , then the 15 " and 17 " Powerbooks could be updated in August otherwise expect the Powerbooks to get updated in May with the 1.5 GHZ G4 . iBooks updated with 1.5 GHZ G4 could be announced in July . If there are no heat issues with the 970FX for the Powerbooks , Apple should stop producing the G4 17 " Powerbooks during April and let their remaining inventories shrink down to 0 . Apple should stop producing the G4 15 " Powerbooks during June and let their remaining inventories shrink down to 0 . eMac could get the new 1.5 GHZ G4 in May , just in time for school purchases. After the 20 inch iMac update with a 970FX ( maybe in April ) , the low-end 15 " iMac 1.5 GHZ G4 ( combo drive ) along with the updated eMac could be released in May .
Re: Re: Pathetic
There is a reason for this. If you read the link someone posted to an article with new G5 news. An "Analyst" for someone (i think macminute) predicted that the next pb would be a g5 powerbook, and that he felt unless they planned to do other cutting edge stuff, it could come out anytime.
Which also goes well with my belief( and the belief of others who have posted) that these new G4 chips are going to be "shipping in 3-6 months" in quantities ( however, 10,000 samples isn't exactly a small handful), means that these chips are going to be used for the ibook next rev.. They just introduced the new G4 in the ibooks in Nov (?), and 3-6 months would be a perfect time table to release the next rev. And it would also be a perfect time to do the turnover from g4 to 5 for the powerbooks. Not that they will be updated at the time, but in the same vein (aka g5 comes, so ibooks get the best g4's).
Think about how well that could revive the g4 "i" line of product sales (e.g. ibooks and imacs), something people on these forums were complaining about a day or two ago.
There is a reason for this. If you read the link someone posted to an article with new G5 news. An "Analyst" for someone (i think macminute) predicted that the next pb would be a g5 powerbook, and that he felt unless they planned to do other cutting edge stuff, it could come out anytime.
Which also goes well with my belief( and the belief of others who have posted) that these new G4 chips are going to be "shipping in 3-6 months" in quantities ( however, 10,000 samples isn't exactly a small handful), means that these chips are going to be used for the ibook next rev.. They just introduced the new G4 in the ibooks in Nov (?), and 3-6 months would be a perfect time table to release the next rev. And it would also be a perfect time to do the turnover from g4 to 5 for the powerbooks. Not that they will be updated at the time, but in the same vein (aka g5 comes, so ibooks get the best g4's).
Think about how well that could revive the g4 "i" line of product sales (e.g. ibooks and imacs), something people on these forums were complaining about a day or two ago.
This is my first post so excuse me if I'm getting the wrong drift here but....
Maybe the 1.5Ghz G4 could signal an update to the iMac/eMac?
20" flat screen with 1.5Ghz G4?
More oomph than my current G4 PowerMac anway!!
Maybe the 1.5Ghz G4 could signal an update to the iMac/eMac?
20" flat screen with 1.5Ghz G4?
More oomph than my current G4 PowerMac anway!!