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Don't forget that a HUGE % of those millions are stuck on a carrier (or choose a carrier) that doesn't allow them to get an iphone and to them they "think" that android is just as good or better.

In my experience most android users have never owned an iPhone. I'd love to hear from someone who had both and about which they kept. I would like to estimate that in a true comparison, (1 or 2 months with either phone) - a large percentage would prefer the iphone.

I have an iPhone 3GS and well as an Incredible. The only reason I haven't ditch the iPhone is because of the apps. There is no doubt the iPhone apps are better but the android apps are starting to catch up. Angry Birds is about to be released for android...one of my favorite games. I think Apple is starting scramble trying to think of things to put in the iPhone. It's now seems to be all about marketing. "Retina Display"....seriously?!?! Just tell me what the resolution is, you don't have to put a name to it. I wish people would stop worry about who's phone is better. Just because you like the iPhone doesn't mean everyone has to. As many people have already stated. All of you iPhone fans should be rooting for Android because the better Android gets the better the iPhone will get.
 
Maybe, maybe not, it's not clear yet. If it's real 720 display, that's pretty exciting.



"Should be able"? How many teevees (or cheap media player boxes) can stream wireless video?



Hard to tell if you are serious or kidding. I watch almost all my TV this way.



So you're saying they're lying? How do you know that for sure? 720p is a specific format, it's possible that they are mistaken or intentionally lying but it seems unlikely they are using an industry standard term but using it to "mean" something else.

720p is a specific format defined by it's progressive nature and it's 720 vertical pixels. The pixels can be square or anamorphic in nature. For example, the DVCProHD format shoots in 960x720. An HD picture squished horizontally into a 4:3 size. The same holds for all SD widescreen DVDs. All DVDs are 720x480. They can be 4:3 or 16:9. If they are 16:9 then the DVD player reproduces the image to your TV as either letterbox or widescreen.
 
Maybe, maybe not, it's not clear yet. If it's real 720 display, that's pretty exciting.



"Should be able"? How many teevees (or cheap media player boxes) can stream wireless video?



Hard to tell if you are serious or kidding. I watch almost all my TV this way.



So you're saying they're lying? How do you know that for sure? 720p is a specific format, it's possible that they are mistaken or intentionally lying but it seems unlikely they are using an industry standard term but using it to "mean" something else.

I am not saying they are lying. They are telling you that it is 720p. They didn't mention if they were measuring vertically or horizontally....
 
I wasn't kidding, you are the first, there are so many better/easier ways to do this...

I'm sure there are other ways to do it, but I'd be curious what the cheapest would be. Works great for me, I have no complaints.
 
[G5]Hydra;10185906 said:
Many AMOLED's aren't ready for prime-time IMHO. Many don't actually have a red-green-blue pixel triad which lowers the effective resolution quite a bit and can give things like text a nasty appearance. The Nexus One for example officially has a 480x854 screen but effectively is 392 x 653. http://www.intomobile.com/2010/03/25/brief-google-nexus-one-screen-resolution-is-actually-392-x-653-not-480-x-800.html That plus the fact that AMOLED's kinda suck outside in the bright light make them less than ideal for a device made to be used outside and currently don't draw all that much less than LCD's wrt to power. I have no doubt OLED is the future but the LCD is far from dead at this point.

Back to the original topic. Why does the droid graphic say 4.3" "Display" and another one say 720p "Screen"? It makes me think they mean 720p over HDMI or something.

I knew I'd get a post like yours. :)

My Nexus One next to any other LCD based device I've viewed in person, so all the iPhones my friends have an example looks night and day better.

I read some of those articles early on, but needless to say, most are a gross exaggeration, which in the reality of things have been a non-issue. They're only issues for those that don't have this SUPERIOR tech on their device, so they will amplify these points to try and make something of it. ;)

Less power consumption and substantially better looking screen all around and that's what I get with my AMOLED, which really does make LCDs look rather poorly when placed side by side.

Anyways, LCD is only better for production, as it can meet the demand, but that's all I'll give it at this point.

My guess is that this new Droid is 854 x 480, the rest is just marketing buzz.
 
Ok that sounds good, but again most people are on the go and the fact that video chat cant be used over 3g is pathetic, regardless what carrier it is on it can be on all the carriers but if you cant video chat over your service what is even the point of having it as it a feature when you wont use it 85% of the time

seems like all this cell phone makers are WAYYYYY ahead of every single wireless carrier

This is what drives innovation. Everyone will use this on wifi and love it, forcing the wireless tech to improve.
 
Maybe, maybe not, it's not clear yet. If it's real 720 display, that's pretty exciting.



"Should be able"? How many teevees (or cheap media player boxes) can stream wireless video?

Oh, well people were acting like it was confirmed that it wasn't a 1280x720 display... if it's still up in the air, well, yes, that'd be a huge bragging point worth bragging about.

As far as how many tvs can sync to the iphones videos wirelessly, probably none, I was just saying who wants to deal with cables. Eventually if it doesn't already, the iTV or some media device will be able to receive commands right from your cell phone and seamlessly display whatever you tell it to play! Wires are a thing of the past, sooner or later.
 
I have an iPad, so sorry but iPhone 4 or Droid Xtrafail, it doesn't matter, I'm going to watch HD movies on my iPad, not my wittle phone screen.
 
Isn't it the fact that the display and glass are directly together and that "gap" is eliminated that makes the retina display so nice? It looks like the image is directly on the glass.

I wouldn't call that part of the "retina" experience, since it has nothing to do with resolution. It has only to do with viewing angle and clarity.

Optical bonding of glass capacitive touchscreens to a display has been going on for many years. I was using such screens in casino gaming machines almost twenty years ago.

There are two main reasons most makers don't do it, despite the clarity:

1) You allow touch pressure onto the display. Ever touch an LCD and make waves? Fortunately in this case people tend to touch gently.

2) Just as with the first iPhone, having the touch glass and display bonded together means that they can break together... or at least must usually be replaced together. Odd how people were excited about their separation in the last model and now applaud putting them together again!
 
Kinda brilliant on their part to use a buzzword like "720p". This is well known HD standard and the word "HD" translates very easily to the general public. Even if it really isn't technically 720p....

The minimum 720p format is 960x720, but that's nonsquare pixels and is just a codec. Considering the droid is a 16x9 form factor and is made up of square pixels like all LCDs, then I assume it would be 1280x720.
 
I knew I'd get a post like yours. :)

My Nexus One next to any other LCD based device I've viewed in person, so all the iPhones my friends have an example looks night and day better.

I read some of those articles early on, but needless to say, most are a gross exaggeration, which in the reality of things have been a non-issue. They're only issues for those that don't have this SUPERIOR tech on their device, so they will amplify these points to try and make something of it. ;)

Less power consumption and substantially better looking screen all around and that's what I get with my AMOLED, which really does make LCDs look rather poorly when placed side by side.

Anyways, LCD is only better for production, as it can meet the demand, but that's all I'll give it at this point.

My guess is that this new Droid is 854 x 480, the rest is just marketing buzz.

As a Nexus One owner, have you ever tried using your device outside? Seriously? I had a Nexus One, and if I was dying of a gunshot wound in the middle of the afternoon in a parking lot I wouldn't have been able to call 911 without crawling under a car to block the screen from the sun. As someone who actually enjoys going outside, the Nexus One is a crap phone. OLED is impossible to use outside, and that goes for my Nexus One and my crap Zune HD. If you are a cave dweller who lives in your moms basement, maybe OLED is great for you. I didn't care for it very much, as being outside is important to me.
 
hhmmm, i'm pretty sure that's Motorola's management and marketing division writing checks they're hoping their engineers can cash. this is most likely a gut reaction to apple's iphone 4. anyone can make a shiny billboard; question is, can their engineers deliver-
 
When something is stated to be 720p. The 720p means wide screen format so it is 720 lines in the shorter direction. So in the droid case it is really 720x1280 if you are holding the phone in way you are trying to say it is.
Now it is 1280 x 720 in landscape.

Yes that is usually the case. Not here though. You'll see once the spec are revealed. I don't feel the need to convince you:rolleyes:
 
You Verizon people kill me, the majority of you want an Iphone so bad, you see the Droid as the closest thing to it. When and if Verizon gets the iphone how many of you will still be talking about the droid? The Droid is waaaacckk!!! Its ugly and the interface is not as smooth as the Iphone.

Iphone-Jordan
Droid-Kobe (good but not the Goat)

Actually..

iPhone - Kobe
Droid - Lebron

;)
 
yea right

I'll believe it when I see it. If the DroidX really has a 1280x720 resolution, I'll eat my shorts. If it does, I will be duly impressed. I'm betting that marketing screwed up and put '720p screen' when they really meant 720p output over HDMI. We will see.

It is cool that DroidX has an HDMI port (a mini sized one I would assume - even mini HDMI connectors are huge). Of course you know the iPhone already has VGA output, but only 1024x768. That is greater than 720p vertically, but not the 1280 pixels needed horizontally for the correct aspect ratio. I was rather hoping Apple would have exchanged the VGA pins in the dock connector for HDMI ones with iPhone 4 - for a 1280x720 output - even though that would mean yet another different adapter cable. Better yet, how about 1366x768 output so it would actually be pixel compatible with HDTVs - Apple??
 
2) Just as with the first iPhone, having the touch glass and display bonded together means that they can break together... or at least must usually be replaced together. Odd how people were excited about their separation in the last model and now applaud putting them together again!

I'm far too careful with my stuff to even consider this.
 
Good try but its a no go

Good try motorola, but your phones are garbage.

Then crappy os on top of a crappy phone = a big turd.

Thus that's what i feel about android os. :D
 
The new Droid looks like great hardware. Generally, Motos appear better in person, so I would withhold judgment on the design until available.

For what it's worth, I think the new iPhone 4 is possible the best looking phone in pictures. On the other hand, there are reports that the new glass design is much more susceptible to breakage than the old design, so we'll see how this shakes out.

As far as the UI, Android 2.2 is a huge improvement over the 1.xx many here are familiar with - kind of like comparing Mac OS X to OS 7.

Plus, Google hired the UI guy from Palm, and the next version of Android OS will focus on UI improvements, so I expect it to be fully on par with iOS. With the benefit of being open, and being able to run full Flash.

I loved the 4.3" of the EVO. It actually makes browsing the web a useful endeavor, which is not the case on my 3.5" iPhone 3Gs.
 
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