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I could never use a phone with a 4.3" screen. That is just too large. I'm assuming this Droid doesn't have a keyboard? If so, it's still a failure.

Also, even if it has a higher res than the iPhone 4, the ppi and display type (IPS backlit by LEDs > OLED/AMOLED) need to be taken into consideration.
 
Another iPhone killer???

Does the droid X 's pre-order bring down any servers?



If yes, I suspect it's a bug in the droid os itself, not from the number of pre-orders. :p


p.s. It's not even out yet. Don't count your chickens before they hatched.
 
Whats a "1080p output"?

hi definition (hdmi), which is mostly movies (bluray). yea there is some cameras that capture it but the droids camera cannot capture 1080p so hdmi, which is 1080p not 720p, is pointless unless using your phone as a movie hub like what me and yg17 were discussing
 
+1. Apple doesn't give a rats A** how anyone does anything. I promise you, Jobs and Co. care less about market share, how many they sell, etc. All they care about it putting out the best product. They don't care if other people use it, they sleep well knowing they sell the best, and use the best.

We've been doing it for years with the Mac. It might never be number one, but everyone who has a Mac knows sometimes being in the minority is just fine.

With the iPhone, people just understood it was the best phone, and therefore had people flocking to it. Apple has never produced products with the best specs, ever. Remember the days when Apple was selling computers in megahertz when every PC was in the gigahertz. THEY DON'T CARE. Their products just work and that's all that matters.

Hell, I'd almost prefer to go back to the days when all things Apple were only enjoyed by a minority.

Hmm... I agreed to an extent back in the days, but I beg to differ, nowadays Steve Jobs talks about how many tens of millions of the IOS installed base are out there, and "There's definitely a market" for the developers, as he said in this year WWDC. So Apple does care about unit sold / market share / web usage share when it comes to the iPhone / IOS.

The business model for the iPhone and iPad and iFutureDevices on IOS is different to the Mac back in the days. The Mac was forced into minority by Windows for historical reasons back in the days.
 
These guys really don't have anything more original than ripping off HAL from 2001 and ripping off a Lucas trademark?

Mighty Mouse, iPhone and iOS are 3 trademarks that Apple ripped off other companies. :rolleyes:

Mighty Mouse was ripped off by Apple. Droid was licensed from LucasFilm. iPhone TM was acquired by Apple, albeit after the fact, and iOS was acquired before being released.
 
Unfortunately, that's the old Apple. Now, all Apple wants is your money, no matter what Jobs may say about it. It's sad really.



I agree wholeheartedly. They had to actually make the best products in order to remain competitive back then.

Which products were the "best" "back then" and why did they qualify as the "best"? Curious...
 
You Verizon people kill me, the majority of you want an Iphone so bad, you see the Droid as the closest thing to it. When and if Verizon gets the iphone how many of you will still be talking about the droid? The Droid is waaaacckk!!! Its ugly and the interface is not as smooth as the Iphone.

Iphone-Jordan
Droid-Kobe (good but not the Goat)
 
it really boggles me how all of these competitors try to outdo the iphone and miserably fail...it's not just about the screen or hardware, it's about the experience, the iOS and thats where others fail.

THIS. Anyway, good for Apple to have some competition, but I could care less how high res the screen is...it's how usable the device is that matters.
 
What's with phone's having HDMI outputs now-a-days? Seems like such a useless feature to me.

Why not? iPods have had video out for ages so it seems reasonable to expect HDMI out next.

1080p output is pointless bc that is bluray which is like 20gb a movie. have fun taking up all the memory on your phone.

Some phones support USB On-The-Go which allows you to attach a USB drive on which you've got your media stored.
 
If the iPhone 4 screen is going to become the standard for years, that means Apple isn't gonna upgrade their screen for years?

Highly doubt it lol.
 
My reason for buying any Apple product is, always has been, and always will be getting a great end user experience. That's what Apple is all about and they do it better than anyone else. Sure there are other things, like great hardware design, but end user experience is always number one.

Hm, I'd never really thought about the user experience. I switched the the Mac in 2006 because OS X offered the best combination of reliability and compatibility. Maybe that's why I was never crazy about iPods or iPhones.
 
I could never use a phone with a 4.3" screen. That is just too large. I'm assuming this Droid doesn't have a keyboard? If so, it's still a failure.

Also, even if it has a higher res than the iPhone 4, the ppi and display type (IPS backlit by LEDs > OLED/AMOLED) need to be taken into consideration.

How do you know? Have you tried a phone with a 4.3" screen?

This phone is not OLED or AMOLED. It's LCD, just like the original droid and the iphone.
 
Superior is in the eye of the beholder. Perhaps when Android catches up in the user experience realm with Gingerbread (along with actually implementing all the cool features they wowed people with at I/O... but aren't actually shipping yet) you'll have a point, but for the moment, iOS is still leaps and bounds ahead in terms of practical, real-world usability.

Is "real world" code for appealing to dullards? Yep Android right now doesn't hold your hand like you're a baby all the time and it doesn't restrict your choices. Some people enjoy the freedom of android, and real multitasking, not faux multitasking that Apple is about to unleash.
 
I should read more posts before commenting, but am I the only one that sees that advert and thinks "how naff is that: it looks like they're trying to appeal to the alienware gaming market".
 
yet to u apple toting the retina display - u go gaga for it!

You are very bias

are u kidding me u fanboy?

Oh you...First try proper sentence structure, before you start calling names. He is, in fact, quite critical of Apple at times, but you knew this, right? Please, before you start making baseless accusations, do lurk more.

How great would it be to show up with a movie or tv show u downloaded from iTunes and play it on a large plasma or LCD? Yah sounds pretty useless to me fanboy!

Oh wait! When apple releases it's own hdmi out on their iPhone you will love it!

Let's talk about this for a second, shall we. For one, the Droid X is a lower resolution screen (800 x 480), as many, many, many people have already said. Reading is awesome. Unless they upgraded the screen in the short period between the demo given a few weeks ago and now (not happening), the display is, and will be, a lower resolution. Since you're so set on fanboy crazes, it should do you well to know that this is from engadget, a notoriously anti-apple site. Here's the quote:
Update: We just confirmed that the Droid X prototype we saw had an 854 x 480 display, so we'll have to see if Motorola and Verizon have a serious surprise for us come Wednesday -- we know at least one Engadget editor who's crossing his fingers.
And no, they didn't change the final production model in a week to include a higher res screen; this **** has to be tested extensively first.

As for the video out; no, I won't love it. Clearly you have no concept of true high-def movies, no, rather of any codecs at all. This Droid X is only pushing 720p. Whoop de do. Will it play mkvs? No. This means your "HD" iTunes releases can be played at their naive resolution, but of course we all know this isn't really high-def and of course the Droid doesn't even have iTunes in the first place. Furthermore, its not going to be pushing DTS or anything else, so I say why bother? If your only point is to "play it on a large plasma or LCD" you also clearly forget about display technologies too... but that's a different point. The bottom line is this; all that 720p out is going to enable you to do is the following: 1) have ****** battery life (as in really crappy), 2) have a ****** picture from your low res file, 3) force you to buy SD memory to hold your ****** file (this is a droid, after all), 4) and have ****** sound. It's a lot of ****.

A good 720p-1080p rip that's not TrueHD or anything crazy like that takes 8-20 GB, something you're not going to have on a phone. Most of my 720p rips are 8-15GB. Sounds real practical, right? Plus can the battery even last a whole movie with output like that? I mean if you're near a TV, you'd be better just to plug in the HTPC that's near it, or a laptop, or a desktop... there's just so many better options.

Also, did you know the GUI isn't hardware accelerated? Enjoy your 720p with that.
 
Not based on the endless AT&T drop calls I get and the daily failed to send emails even with FULL signal. :)

i am not doubting you, but i bought a iPhone 3G about a month after launch, i live in pittsburgh, have traveled in WV, driven to chicago, driven to NYC, and never once dropped a call, or had trouble sending email. I have also sent email from the E network without issue.
not sure i believe all the claims that At&t service sucks, just hasn't been my experience.
 
In my experience most android users have never owned an iPhone. I'd love to hear from someone who had both and about which they kept. I would like to estimate that in a true comparison, (1 or 2 months with either phone) - a large percentage would prefer the iphone.

I went iPhone 2G -> iPhone 3G -> HTC G1 (Android Dev Phone) -> iPhone 3GS -> Nexus One -> iPhone 3GS -> iPhone 4

Why did I settle on the iPhone 4 and going back to my 3GS? Polish. Android has none of that app polish. The Android market is the definition of underwhelming, and I found myself making calls and texting with the phone, but doing nothing beyond that. With my iPhone I text, call, email, browse the web, and use apps. All of those are enjoyable on the iPhone. Not so much on any of my Android devices.
 
It will be interesting to see if the display is really 720p, most of the other tech websites think that's unlikely (and they had their hands on prototypes that were lower resolution although it's possible they were early versions). If it really is 720, that's pretty darn impressive. Although who knows when they will actually ship, there will probably be millions of iPhone 4 units sold before then.


They're not ripped off. It's well documented that Apple negotiated to use the names in all three cases.

hi definition (hdmi), which is mostly movies (bluray). yea there is some cameras that capture it but the droids camera cannot capture 1080p so hdmi, which is 1080p not 720p, is pointless unless using your phone as a movie hub like what me and yg17 were discussing

I'm not sure what you mean. HDMI supports both 1080 and 720. It's definitely useful for 720.

Mighty Mouse was ripped off by Apple.

Sorry, thanks for playing. It says MM is a trademark of CBS on the mouse box.
 
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