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Lynxpro said:
So Atari? Watch it, bub....when your Mac was black & white, we AtariSTers were rockin' in color at half the price...

Atari had some seriously crummy hardware back then.
...Amiga however was much much crummier:p

Lynxpro said:
And Steve Jobs got his tech experience at Atari before founding Apple...something that *The Pirates of Silicon Valley* seemed to have conveniently forgotten...

They seem to have *conveniently* forgoten alot more than just that...:rolleyes:
 
I have to say I am very unhappy with the fact you can't use any regular old Headphones. They have to be special mini USB headphones.... blah, pretty annoying and lame.
 
Yeah, cell phones continue to disappoint I guess. Tons of features nobody needs, none of the refinement users demand. Same crappy Motorola GUI.

With our greedy conglomerate carriers and expensive, boring phone designs... it makes me wonder why I use a cell phone at all.

Also, for all the flak against Nokia, they are the only ones I've seen with Bluetooth 2.0 specification... and you can order directly from their website.

Damn, Apple spoils us bad. I want an iPhone. :mad:
 
rikers_mailbox said:
Now back on topic: I hate the RAZR. It's got too much going on... why, oh why, can't I just have a phone?!? Maybe one that actually works! So often these phones with cameras, browsers, games, toasters, etc. don't work as advertized...

Just ignore all other features. I always said I don't need a cell phone with a camera and crap like this (not to mention WAP).

But... I bought a razor, because it is really small/thin, it is a flip-phone, has a big screen and it looks good (mainly because it is so thin and because of its metal casing).

I have not used the camera yet, I only used the address book, the calender (incl. synching), sending and receiving SMS, the list of incoming and outgoing calls and once the alarm clock. I also use it as a clock and make calls. But I have not used any of the other features. And I don't mind that they are there.
 
I couldn't agree more

Fotek2001 said:
I can't beleive the crap cell phone carriers in the US make their customers put up with - cripped phones from Verizon, charges to receive SMS messages, it's no wonder the industry in the US is so far behind the rest of the world...

The RAZR with its clunky Moto user interface is just another example of wireless technology not living up to the hype. Apple should have looked into working with innovative manufacturers like Sony Ericsson, Nokia or even Samsung - disappointing!

I briefly used a Moto phone a while ago (I can't remember the model) for work. The phone was so horrible and the interface so archane that I just threw the thing in a drawer and told my boss to call me on my own Sony Ericcson phone and that I would pay for any charges. The new RAZR could come for free and let me load my entire music collection on it and I would still take a pass until they get better software.
 
Fotek2001 said:
I can't beleive the crap cell phone carriers in the US make their customers put up with - cripped phones from Verizon, charges to receive SMS messages, it's no wonder the industry in the US is so far behind the rest of the world...

The RAZR with its clunky Moto user interface is just another example of wireless technology not living up to the hype. Apple should have looked into working with innovative manufacturers like Sony Ericsson, Nokia or even Samsung - disappointing!
I think Samsung and Nokia phones are disappointing.
 
dferrara said:
Yeah, cell phones continue to disappoint I guess. Tons of features nobody needs, none of the refinement users demand. Same crappy Motorola GUI.

With our greedy conglomerate carriers and expensive, boring phone designs... it makes me wonder why I use a cell phone at all.

Also, for all the flak against Nokia, they are the only ones I've seen with Bluetooth 2.0 specification... and you can order directly from their website.

Damn, Apple spoils us bad. I want an iPhone. :mad:

this is a nice phone from B&O which is very simple... Apple could get some inspiration here. I havn't got one yet because it is expensive..

http://www.bang-olufsen.com/web2/systems/product.asp?section=systems&sub=tp&prodid=562
 
Tupring said:
I think Samsung and Nokia phones are disappointing.

Samsung is always disappointing. :p

Nokia has that open-source operating system right? It's good looking.
 
spice weasel said:
I briefly used a Moto phone a while ago (I can't remember the model) for work. The phone was so horrible and the interface so archane that I just threw the thing in a drawer and told my boss to call me on my own Sony Ericcson phone and that I would pay for any charges. The new RAZR could come for free and let me load my entire music collection on it and I would still take a pass until they get better software.
:eek:
 
Nice looking phone. I still wouldn't buy it if I had to stay with Crapular. They were so good as AT&T. More bars in no places.
 
aegisdesign said:
Charged for incoming SMS?

Oh my giddy Aunt! No wonder SMS isn't popular in the US.
oddly enough I've never heard of a carrier in Canada that does not charge for txt messages, while in the states they charge for them..for most carriers that I know of.. but then again some US carriers have to pay 10c/incoming txt message (w/o plan), while in Canada we're forced to pay $6.95 for a "system access fee" no matter what carrier your with (they say it's a government fee... it is not at all)
 
Steven1621 said:
Will Verizon cripple the Transflash photo transfer option? I'm willing to bet they will try, if they even offer it...
when u mean photo transfer with the TF card do u mean like putting a picture on the TF card and then putting it on your phone cause their is a work around that's really easy......... ;)
 
jayb2000 said:
. . .
Having used a RAZR a few times as well, I can say I actually like it LESS than a V600. The buttons are difficult to differentiate. I think the best phone I ever had was the 8260. Great battery life, durable, etc.
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I still use that phone to this date...
I'm scared to give it up...

I never drop calls, no one complains about being able to hear me (unless it's their end) I have service where no one else does (rural areas)

I'm also not under contract, and on the old TDMA AT&T network. So what if I can't beam you a picture, or listen to Fitty Cent when "YOU" call me.

I know it's only a matter of time before I have to upgrade, was thinking the new RAZR might be it. Probably not.
 
mandis said:
Atari had some seriously crummy hardware back then.
...Amiga however was much much crummier:p


You can't be serious... The ST and the Amiga both ran circles around the Mac back in the day. Its only due to both of those platforms untimely deaths that many of us are now in Appleland.
 
I am waiting for a Verizon one, so I'll probably never get it because Verizon has never had good phones, and I'm starting to think they never will. :mad:
 
dferrara said:
Also, for all the flak against Nokia, they are the only ones I've seen with Bluetooth 2.0 specification... and you can order directly from their website.

Because Nokias cook your brain! Seriously....historically they've been the worst offenders (well, Qualcomm too) when it comes to emitting radiation.

What did I get from my Nokia? Headaches. And when I complained to my doctor, I found myself getting a CAT scan paid for by a survey conducted by unnamed corporations...

And no, they did not find any tumors. Granted, it was a hard scan and not with using the chemicals they prefer to inject you with that quite possibly can kill you according to the medical release form.
 
There are upsides and downsides to the US cell phone situation. On the upside (at least vs most the rest of the world), a cell phone is treated the same as any other phone for anyone calling it. We don't pay inflated charges to call a cell phone. Granted, most cell plans charge minutes for incoming calls (not mine, however), but for those of us with free incoming calls, it means that neither side is paying anything extra because one party is on a cell phone. It's quite nice that way. I also have unlimited SMS, so I guess it depends on your provider/plan.

I do realize, however, that our pay as you go plans and locked phones suck :)
 
cwtnospam said:
Please post any links on how to do this. My contract with Verizon expires next month and I'll be switching carriers if I can't find a way to sync my next phone with my Mac.
;)
Well, it's a tad off-topic, and without reviewing all of MR's user guide I'm not sure how the mods would feel about this info here. I'll offer a few quick tips to point you in the right direction: NuclearElephant.com has a lot of info on the E815, you need a Windows XP computer, and a Google search for "Motorola E815" and "OBEX" will turn up the majority of the relevant info. Beyond that, you'll have to find a few (relatively easily located) programs and files to make this happen. I actually haven't done anything to mine yet, since the added benefit based on my use doesn't outweigh the effort.

However, I can say that my E815 synched up with iSync out of the box with Verizon. iSync with all Motorola phones only supports phone numbers/emails in the address book, and the datebook. A couple weeks ago I spent time combing through the Verizon store and comparing it to the iSync compatibility list from Apple, and only turned up the Motorola E815 and one of the PDA-style phones (I forget which one) as compatible. So, if you wind up keeping Verizon, these are your only options (no RAZR or ROKR).
 
tsaxer said:
...On topic - I still do not regret picking up my s710a back in September. Moto's interface seems so Atari now.


Im gonna have to agree there. I just got an s710a and still feel ill be happier with it than i would be with any Moto iTunes phone currently on the market. It takes maybe an extra 30 seconds to manually grab some mp3s and load them onto my phone. Plus im pretty sure Verizon (or moto... one or the other) locks out a lot of bluetooth functionality. My roommate's moto/verizon phone has bluetooth but when i try to connect it with my laptop it gives me some "not supported" type error...

The only thing that bugs me about the s710a so far is the proprietary headphone jack... considering the headphones it came with are super uncomfertable, despite the fact that they actually sound pretty good! Oh and the slightly slower user interface, although it still feels layed out better than my roommate's moto phone.

Regardless, i still cant get over how cool it is to be sitting at my laptop listening to music or watching a dvd and when someone calls, having the music/dvd pause and mute while a bezel window pops up showing the name of whos calling and their address book picture. :D:D:D
 
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