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bokdol said:
the question should be when will they support verizon so i can get me one.

Verizon has confirmed that they will get RAZRs afther Thanksgiving sometime. Just wonder if we'll get the iTunes?
 
Half drooling.. still salivating for Safari Mobile onboard.

Add the new mobile Safari software for a REAL web browsing experience on a cell phone instead of Motorola's custom crapware for crapware "mobile only" websites, and I'll be impressed enough to bother ditching my ages old still outlived its successor Sony Ericson POS that strangely didn't get stomped about 50 times under my boot, driven over with my truck and turned in for an insurance claim on the phone that replaced it anyways... (!)
 
THIS shoulda been the iTunes phone...

no, not the razr.....THIS one:

http://www.vodafone.jp/english/products/model_3G/v803t/index.html

803t_main.jpg


the control panel on the top begs to be round! it's even got a 2.26 megapixel camera. only US$150!!! with a USB charger, you can just buy it here in japan and take it to the states without having to worry about power converters and all. seems that the number of songs is limited by the capacity of the miniSD card.

on the video advert in the vodafone shop in shibuya, they even show how you can transfer songs from the itunes library! (the folders themselves, not itunes itself).

=-----------------------------=

(speaking of shibuya and adverts, i have a couple of unopened HACHIKO iPod cases [the ones you can only get at the shibuya, tokyo apple store]. asking US$100. they fit 1st through 4th generation ipods. sorry for the blatant advert. email tommy @ glowstar.com if ur interested. the end!) :p
 
Well nice phone......but no info....song capacity what countries iTunes come in and price:eek: :eek: :mad:
 
geniusj said:
There are upsides and downsides to the US cell phone situation. On the upside (at least vs most the rest of the world), a cell phone is treated the same as any other phone for anyone calling it. We don't pay inflated charges to call a cell phone. Granted, most cell plans charge minutes for incoming calls (not mine, however), but for those of us with free incoming calls, it means that neither side is paying anything extra because one party is on a cell phone. It's quite nice that way. I also have unlimited SMS, so I guess it depends on your provider/plan.

I do realize, however, that our pay as you go plans and locked phones suck :)

Here in India, long distance cell phone rates on particular plans are rupee 1/min. That's like 2 cents per minute for calling a place 1500 miles away :)

The local call rates to all fixed/cellular phones are like 50 paise/min.. that's a cent a minute :D

And no, it's not in Bombay. The rural/semi-urban areas are growing a LOT faster than the urban areas.

But, I like the subsidised cell phones the companies provide in the US.

I had a small question for all cell phone companies.. why can't you produce cell phones without cameras?
I mean they can sell a camera as well as a non-camera model of the same phone, can't they? I just hate cell phone cameras..
 
oober_freak said:
I had a small question for all cell phone companies.. why can't you produce cell phones without cameras?
I mean they can sell a camera as well as a non-camera model of the same phone, can't they? I just hate cell phone cameras..
Because that's what the cell phone service providers want. Ultimately, the Cingulars, T-Mobiles, Verizons of the world are the ones buying the phones (not the end user). They want camera phones so that people can spend more money using their networks.

And of course, the cell phone manufacturers are more than happy to oblige since they can charge more for a phone with a camera than one without.

In the end, the user is the one with less options. It's pretty hard to find a phone without a camera that isn't anything but an entry-level phone.

I'm still hanging onto my Moto v60i because it's a great "phone". Sound clarity is excellent and it holds a great signal.
 
ftaok said:
Because that's what the cell phone service providers want. Ultimately, the Cingulars, T-Mobiles, Verizons of the world are the ones buying the phones (not the end user). They want camera phones so that people can spend more money using their networks.

And of course, the cell phone manufacturers are more than happy to oblige since they can charge more for a phone with a camera than one without.

In the end, the user is the one with less options. It's pretty hard to find a phone without a camera that isn't anything but an entry-level phone.

I'm still hanging onto my Moto v60i because it's a great "phone". Sound clarity is excellent and it holds a great signal.

But in many countries, the companies sell the phones directly to you. Here, Nokia/Samsung/SE/Motorola sell their stuff directly through their showrooms..

I guess Steve Jobs needs to make an iPhone :p
 
Misplaced Mage said:
Direct file transfer between a phone and a computer without the use of a carrier's network represent a revenue leak that some carriers are more like to plug than others. If you don't like one carrier's stance on phone features, fine, vote with your dollars, go to another carrier, and tell the one you're leaving the reason for your actions.
I intend to do that, and encourage other Verizon customers to switch as well. I don't care how good their service is, when a company tries to steal from you, it's time to stop doing business with them. Direct file transfer is NOT a revenue leak. It is a right, and trying to block that right for unwarranted gain is theft.
 
I must say that I still like my Sony Ericsson T68i and would likely use it forever if it weren't for the fact that Cingular is no longer supporting the AT&T phones and the service is starting to go down the tubes since Cingular took over AT&T Wireless. Never had a problem till Sinkular came in. :(
 
rockandrule said:
Very nice phone, but I'm definitely waiting for an Apple-branded Smart Phone.

Yes... it will SCRATCH easily, cost U$2000 and do nothing but play music and be a mediocre phone... but it will be very beautiful!!!
 
jayb2000 said:
I have a nice digital camera.
I have an iPod.
I want a good, clear, long lasting, easy to sync, digital phone. If I wanted a little computer I would get a Treo or similar. If I wanted to type with my thumbs I would get psychological help or a blackberry. ;)

And I guess you have a truck to carry all those stuff.

I would like to carry only one thing... small enough to fit in my pocket, that won't scratch by looking at it=durable, and that has all the stuff you mentioned above.

The best phone I have ever used: Sony Ericsson T616... but I am looking at the Sony Ericsson W900 and think its gonna be the next one!!!
 
BRLawyer said:
Charges to receive SMSs in the U.S.? Gosh, I didn't know Bush's land was so far behind the rest of the world....


Hey now, get off your high horse. Its not like Switzerland has landed anything on the moon...'cept maybe hidden Nazi gold.
 
glowingstar said:
no, not the razr.....THIS one:

Mr Maui said:
I must say that I still like my Sony Ericsson T68i and would likely use it forever if it weren't for the fact that Cingular is no longer supporting the AT&T phones and the service is starting to go down the tubes since Cingular took over AT&T Wireless. Never had a problem till Sinkular came in. :(



Oh how I wish Vodafone would've bought out AT&T Wireless instead of SBC, err, I mean, Cingular.
 
QCassidy352 said:
No way. I want my cell phone to be good at one thing - calls. And verizon is the best for that (at least all the places I've lived). All the other features - BT, itunes, cameras, nice design, etc. - are cute, but I'd never give up the best network (and hence the most clear and reliable calling) for something with all the bells and whistles that I won't be able to use when I need it.

So I hope verizon does get on board, but I'm sure as heck not leaving them just to have the latest must-have phone.
You could always get the phone and unlock it.
 
BRLawyer said:
Charges to receive SMSs in the U.S.? Gosh, I didn't know Bush's land was so far behind the rest of the world...and I am not talking only about "developed" countries....
Yes, and with wackos pushing non-science like "Intelligent Design" into the science curriculum, it isn't likely that we'll be seeing much technical progress in the future. :(
 
Aw goddamn. I hate TransFlash/MicroSD. A maximum storage limit of 512MB doesn't cut it for a music phone. What's the point of an even tinier memory card than SD? SD is super tiny, availiable in 2GB variant, and cheap.
 
caccamolle said:
man ! screw the stupid retarded cameras!!!!! lose them !


Amen. If it aint at least 3 megapixel its worthless.

Now what is up with this slow interface? My 5 yr old nokia was super fast now I have to wait for menus? I love my razor, but only cause its small and looks cool. Every feature has problems.

- Slow interface
- camera sucks
- speaker phone not loud enough
- Contacts menu is retarded. Can only put one phone number per person.
- Bluetooth technology will be looked upon as the worst wireless tech in history but this will only be said once its replaced.
- Reception reception reception


My old analog nokia 8800 was the best phone ever. I am thinking of becoming a reverse switcher.
 
cwtnospam said:
I intend to do that, and encourage other Verizon customers to switch as well. I don't care how good their service is, when a company tries to steal from you, it's time to stop doing business with them. Direct file transfer is NOT a revenue leak. It is a right, and trying to block that right for unwarranted gain is theft.

I totally agree. Everyone chants "the network! the network!" like they're brainwashed. I bet Verizon doesn't even own the satelites. :rolleyes:

MacTruck said:
- Bluetooth technology will be looked upon as the worst wireless tech in history but this will only be said once its replaced.

Why all the hate for Bluetooth? It has a long way to go, but it does its job well...

cwtnospam said:
Yes, and with wackos pushing non-science like "Intelligent Design" into the science curriculum, it isn't likely that we'll be seeing much technical progress in the future.

Sorry, not everyone is a technocrat. Education is about the exchange of ideas and learning, not restricting curriculum to what you believe is "fact."
 
JesterJJZ said:
Verizon has confirmed that they will get RAZRs afther Thanksgiving sometime. Just wonder if we'll get the iTunes?
No, at least not soon. Motorola's CDMA phones have little in common with their GSM counterparts under the skin of the housing and user interface. It'll be a complete rewrite, assuming it shows up at all. After all, Verizon already has a music store of its own in the works.
 
dferrara said:
Sorry, not everyone is a technocrat. Education is about the exchange of ideas and learning, not restricting curriculum to what you believe is "fact."


to take this even further off topic... while the above statement is true, it ignores the simple fact that intelligent design is not science, and has no place in a science class. sure it's a theory, but not a scientific theory. plus, they already teach intelligent design in every u.s. state that i'm aware of, in catholic schools. sure, scientific symbology has its own problems, and those problems should be discussed and alternate ideology should probably be acknowledged, it does no one any favors to discuss theology as a competitive scientific theory.

anyway, this phone looks nice, it seems to correct alot of the shortcomings of the original razr phone, i just wish motorola would re-do their interface, moving from a sony ericsson to the motorola interface is rather depressing. i wonder if the camera will be ccd or cmos, anyone know (or did i overlook that...)?
 
Tupring said:
You could always get the phone and unlock it.
Not that simple with CDMA phones in North America, I'm afraid, and getting more complicated by the day. First, CDMA phones for the North American market don't use RUIM cards (the CDMA version of a SIM card). Second, Verizon's going to its own, BREW-based user interface, and won't buy phones without it implemented from now on. Sure, you can reprogram the phone with a firmware load for a competitor like AllTel and hack the configuration tables to enable OS-supported features. But Verizon's BREW-based UI can be reprogrammed remotely, i.e., they have the ability to add new features (or replace or remove old ones) without a traditional firmware update at a dealer. And if certain desired features are in the UI code instead of the OS, you're screwed because BREW files are encrypted and digitally signed to the phone they're downloaded to, and won't run on another phone if transfered.

BREW was designed with carriers in mind by Qualcomm, especially the cryptographic features in v2.0 and later.
 
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