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Motorola's New 'Moto Z' and 'Z Force' Smartphones Have No Headphone Jack
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That's exactly what I expected – when rumours started circulating about Apple making a smartwatch suddenly all companies had a revolutionary idea of making one. Now the no jack rumour – hey presto, Motorola is all inventive!
The phone looks like a joke. So they took out the headphone jack so they can make the phone thinner. And plant a camera growth that makes iHump look classy. Imagine how terrible it would be if the phone was thicker, had a better battery and a 3.5mm jack! Soooo disgusting. What phones need is to become 0.1mm thick with an 8mm protruding camera. That will be supermodern and classy. My avatar pic is the first step towards the future!
But that would be a reason for Android OEMs to start offering smaller powerful phones.
If I was an Android OEM... and I saw a ton of people swtiching to the iPhone SE because it's small and powerful... I'd make damn sure I made a 4" powerful Android phone.
Seems like the Android OEMs are missing the boat by only offering giant smartphones.
I doubt if you will see that at all. There are many low power accessories that USB-C is not within the standard.
Yeah I would too if I were in charge. I have two theories: One, maybe these companies don't think that the compact flagship business is worth pursuing because not many people (or so they think) like small phones. Two, maybe they don't have the budget or staff required to make another smaller version of an existing flagship. I dunno, just my thoughts
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Those look nasty, and I don't hate on a lot of phones.I clicked on the link and howled:
That is a ghastly looking phone! Wth is up with that camera?!
No headphone jack on the 7 means I hold on to my 6 longer and wait to see how this no headphone thing works out. I use headphones waaaaay too often to forgo this option. Also because I my phone is my main music player and I plug it into everything from speakers to car auxiliaries (friend's cars, rentals, etc). This isn't like floppy disks and CD's where their use started to become less and less so Apple phased them out. Headphone jacks are still widely used!
No headphone jack on the 7 means I hold on to my 6 longer and wait to see how this no headphone thing works out. I use headphones waaaaay too often to forgo this option. Also because I my phone is my main music player and I plug it into everything from speakers to car auxiliaries (friend's cars, rentals, etc). This isn't like floppy disks and CD's where their use started to become less and less so Apple phased them out. Headphone jacks are still widely used!
Yeah I would too if I were in charge. I have two theories: One, maybe these companies don't think that the compact flagship business is worth pursuing because not many people (or so they think) like small phones. Two, maybe they don't have the budget or staff required to make another smaller version of an existing flagship. I dunno, just my thoughts
Yeah that sounds about right.
It's funny though... companies are removing the headphone jack on a RUMOR that Apple will be.
Yet they are ignoring the "small flagship" trend which Apple has ACTUALLY done.
we are entering a world of 4 adaptors - USB-C, UCB mini, lightning, and 3.5MM.
If apple introduced wireless charging in their phone, than the wireless world would really take off and make sense.
If apple introduced wireless charging in their phone, than the wireless world would really take off and make sense.
I clicked on the link and howled:
jeeze that phone got its own gloryhole
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i dont think i ever woke up thinking ... damn! my Smartphone is too fat. i do wake up thinking damn ... i wish my battery would last longer tho
Lightning cables are of poor quality compared to 3.5mm cables? Never heard this before.
Do you really think Apple removing the headphone jack will have a significant impact especially when other phone companies do the same thing (Moto Z and Z Force)?
What's wrong with using an adapter for the headphones you already own?
Also, read this.
I will just not buy any phone without 3.5 mm jack for the foreseeable future. If usb-c becomes widespread standard, then I will reconsider. But NO way a lightning-only device. End of story.
What if Apple is just trying to get other companies to remove the headphone jack and they end up keeping it?
Can those cables actually lighten ANYTHING?
I am not sure that you not buying an iPhone can be considered a severe fall in sales or share prices. I would love a drop in share prices though to buy as many shares as possible.
Sometimes it is good to quit living in the past...
My thougnts as well. If they're going through with this big transition, why not go all the way to USB-C? Are there going to be lightning ports added to future Macs to support lightning headphones? I'm guessing no...
Yeah... Apple is mixing it up here.
They will likely go all-in on Lightning ports and Lightning headphones on iOS devices...
But rumors are they are going all-in on UCB-C ports on the next MacBook Pro.
Pick one, Apple!
Not to mention that Lightning gives Apple many many advantages that they would lose over direct USB. Lightning isn't only the shape of a connector or just a pipe for data, but is also an entire spec on it's own.
By using Lightning, they are able to remove the iDevice's connection dependencies from internally (the extension and device, HDMI and iPad for example) to the cord itself. This was a monumental achievement by Apple and they were not given enough credit, honestly.
Basically, this means that Apple can produce cables with any sort of arbitrary connection to any other device regardless of the iOS hardware on the other end. This is why it only required a new AV cord to pipe 1080p quality content (and not a new iPad) versus the original AV connector which could only deliver 720 - the actual conversion of AirPlay-packed video to HDMI was done in the cord itself.
They also control a few other things: The doors to the iPhone and iPad accessory market: We've seen lashback of people producing horrid quality connectors and chargers, imagine if there were even less regulation on that market? And Apple also has the ability to build custom protocols into Lightning for their own benefit: Lightning accessories are able to update themselves from the iOS device, meaning software and firmware improvements can be silently pushed down the stack.
I don't believe other companies remove headphone jack just because of rumors Apple will do the same. It's just stupid. Can't be a coincidence either. Sounds more like behind-the-scenes deal of some kind for whatever reason.
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It's not about preference; it's about standardization. Lightning and USB-C and virtually the same size and both reversible. I'm not knowledgable on the technical differences between them (charging/data transfer speeds, etc), but all things being equal I'd much rather my headphones work with other devices besides my iPhone. Androids, Macs, and PCs are all moving to USB-C and I expect many other devices to follow suit. USB-C will probably continue to get improvements just as it has over the years.
Having a proprietary charger is one thing, but a proprietary headphone jack is just a step too far.