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I doubt that very much.

Comparing the headphone jack to floppy discs is not a reasonable comparison. Headphone jacks are ubiquitous; they exist on all musical equipment from the cheapest to the most expensive. The only reason Apple want to get rid of it is to make their phone even thinner. No-one wants a thinner iPhone except chubby Ive.

You do... you do realise you're making this comment on an article about other phone manufacturers making thinner phones?
 
I can't help but think that if Apple removes the headphone jack they really need to standardize with USB-C. Seems annoying to have lighting and USB-C headphones....

You don't have to have BOTH Lightning and USB-C headphones. You'll have one set of digital headphones, with to without wireless capabilities, and two cables. Or one cable and an adapter for the devices you most routinely use.

Hope Apple also moves to USB-C on iPhone. Would love to have a single power adapter for my MacBook-(pro) and iPhone.

Your new MacBook Pro will have a Lightning connector built in. You'll be able to use one Lightning cable with everything.

By the time USB-C becomes widespread, I fully expect Apple to have improved wireless audio to a point where most everyone will chose it over wired audio, as well as perfected wireless charging to the point where no one will need a cable of any kind except as a back-up emergency.
 
I like my iPhone 6s and I think it's thin enough. If Apple can reduce the thickness of the iPhone, I would rather them keep the same thickness, add more batter capacity, and keep the ubiquitous headphone jack that is one of the few standards across computers, phones, tablets, music players, etc. Moving away from the current standard used by virtually everyone stinks.
 
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You don't have to have BOTH Lightning and USB-C headphones. You'll have one set of digital headphones, with to without wireless capabilities, and two cables. Or one cable and an adapter for the devices you most routinely use.

That's not going to help me when I want to plug my headphones into my Windows computer at work. Or into my older car. Or into my work phone. Etc.
 
Sweet, if everyone does it, there will be a shift in what's readily available and the whiners wanting to keep the 3.5mm out of convenience may one day be silent.

It's a presumption and speculation to think we'll need some hodgepodge thing to charge and listen at the same time as well as the need to spend a crapload on adaptors. If the industry shifts as a whole away from 3.5mm, we all have to understand that it is an improvement in the control we have over the sound quality by choosing our own DAC/amp. If you want the same quality as the existing phone, with its cheap DAC/amp, I'm sure that'll be available for really cheap as a full headphone set or as an adaptor. If you want an improvement or are an audiophile that currently uses the 3.5mm, you might be like me where you'll welcome being forced to pick your DAC/amp.
 
I can't help but think that if Apple removes the headphone jack they really need to standardize with USB-C. Seems annoying to have lighting and USB-C headphones....
This is the main reason I cannot support this.

Plus how do customers feel when their new fancy lightning headphones won't plug into their new MacBook Pro!
 
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Sans headphone jack, Motorola has managed to shrink the Moto Z down to 5.19mm thick, while the Z Force, Motorola's more powerful smartphone, measures in at 6.9mm thick.

Something is only as thin as its thickest part. Do these measurements include the protruding camera?

I still hate the protruding lens. It almost forces the consumer to purchase the power pack to make the phone look normal.
 
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I doubt that very much.

Comparing the headphone jack to floppy discs is not a reasonable comparison. Headphone jacks are ubiquitous; they exist on all musical equipment from the cheapest to the most expensive. The only reason Apple want to get rid of it is to make their phone even thinner. No-one wants a thinner iPhone except chubby Ive.

Agree, and now you have multiple phone manufacturers dictating what kind of headphone can be used on there devices. Headphone jack was fine. MANY a record has been tracked/mixed/mastered using the trusty headphone jack. So headphone manufacturers are now supposed to create, what, 2 or more types of cables, or we're all supposed to carry around dongles for the next few years? This all gets very burdensome for the consumer.

Yeah this sucks. I for one will not be buying an iPhone 7 if they ditch the jack (which it sounds like they will). Boo. I guess that's ok the 6 will probably still be for sale for a while.
 
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The headphone jack is reliable, provides good quality sound and allows the iPhone to be charged whilst listening to music.

Bluetooth is unreliable. Using the Lightning connector doesn't allow for charging. In addition, lightning cables are proprietary and of poor quality compared to 3.5" cables.

There is no good case to be made for removing the headphone jack, and if Apple do, they will see severe falls in iPhone sales and their share price.

There has been the odd occasion where I have left my Apple headphones at home, so I have picked up a pair of "throw away" $4 ones somewhere to see me though the day. There is no way I am going to shell out for expensive bluetooth/lightning headphones in the same manner.

Apple will have significantly reduced the functionality if they take the socket away. This is why I bought the iPhone SE, a cheaper option that should allow me to get to the iPhone 8/9 when they bring the headphone socket back in, or it gives me a couple of years before I go to Android.
 
As long as the headphones/adapter have another lightning port.

This is an interesting thought. I wonder if Apple will include lightning headphones w/ iPhone 7 that have a famale lightning port built in. If executed well it could allow for simultaneous charging/wired headphones, and could maybe be a more compact way to dual-connect charger and headphones. Wish I had the means to create a mock-up of what I'm imagining...

Could also go the other way and ship iPhone 7 with a charging cable that has an additional, famale lightning port to plug in headphones.
 
The reason the camera protrudes is because there are a bunch of backs that clip on and add functionality, longer battery, Pico projector, speakers etc. When the mods are on the camera is flush. It the camera was flush to start with, it would be sitting inside the various backs that can be attached. It's actually a pretty cool feature.
 
Not to mention that Lightning gives Apple many many advantages that they would lose over direct USB. Lightning isn't only the shape of a connector or just a pipe for data, but is also an entire spec on it's own.
By using Lightning, they are able to remove the iDevice's connection dependencies from internally (the extension and device, HDMI and iPad for example) to the cord itself. This was a monumental achievement by Apple and they were not given enough credit, honestly.

Very well stated. Smart cables do not get the credit they deserve for looking, like, "just a cable" to consumers.
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What if Apple is just trying to get other companies to remove the headphone jack and they end up keeping it?
I saw this done on a smaller scale with a piece of industrial equipment. A manufacturer knew that several overseas customers were on the take handing over equipment for cloning by knock-off manufacturers. The manufacturer knew this and ended up doing a totally bogus beta program with full knowledge they were getting ripped off. Since it was a "beta" defects were expected. Once the real product came out (a totally different product from the beta) the knock-off house was hit by wasted capitalization tooling up for a product that was never completed.
 
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