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MSN Messenger 4.0 (Images)

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*sigh* I was hoping, when I read this, that there would be a message about interoperablitility with iChat/AIM. I understand that it's about domination in the marketplace, whether the application is free or not. But I wish it could just be as simple as internet browsers. There a few out there, but you can use any of them you want, and everyone can still go to pretty much every website out there no matter which browser they choose. I just wish the war between all chat clients was just about features and not like, "well this one is more compatible." Just like people were saying about the UK, I have a lot of relatives in Mexico, and everybody uses MSN. It's almost like they haven't even heard of AIM. And sometimes I don't mind having to run two chat programs in my computer, but I'm using iChat a lot with my family who are scatterted in the US, because we really get into using the video chat with iChat. That's such an amazing feature and I just wish I could use it with everyone. Anyway...
 
NarKEd said:
THIS IS A VERY VERY IMPORTANTE MESSAGE:

1)go to http://r-james.myby.co.uk/mac/msnmessenger/
2) click on the "Click here to contact MSN!" link
3) tell those suckers tu include the audio/webcam/pictures features in our mac version.

Its only 1 minute of your time and its worth it
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Even if you dont use msn, american mac users do us european cousins a favour and fill in the form and help us out!

thanks
jay
 
AOL, Yahoo!, ICQ, MSN & others ALL with Jabber support.

mac_bandit said:
The state of Instant Messaging on the Internet is appaling. We need a proper, open protocol, that people are actually compelled to use.
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Well we have Jabber... but I don't see M$N Messenger fading away, unless they start charging for it or something like that. If all the IM players can't get along they should all include jabber support (only for basic text IMing) along side their proprietary protocols (which would include all the audio and voice stuff).

Either way MSN 4.0 looks like it still going to be junk!!! I want is audio chat, games, pictures and SPELL CHEQUEING!!!
 
adium...

i dont know why you guys even bother with msn. just use adium (www.adiumx.com). it is total hottness. unless you need audio/video (which will be coming eventually) adium is definitely the way to go!
 
jdang said:
i dont know why you guys even bother with msn. just use adium (www.adiumx.com). it is total hottness. unless you need audio/video (which will be coming eventually) adium is definitely the way to go!
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Adium was boring. Not cool to show this off to my friends (when showing off dockm, minimize-effect and such).

MSN Messenger:Mac needs to get up to date - NOW...! :mad:
 
Believe it or not, MSN has almost a complete monopoly in the chat client market outside of the USA. Infact, MSN has become synonymous with chat in most parts of the world. You don't say chat client anymore. You just say, "whats your MSN". So it is really important to a lot of users that these guys have a decent client for the Mac.

I'm surprised that MSN for Mac is so lacking considering the rest of the Office Suite is superb. Oh well, guess i'll have to continue forcing people who I want to chat with to download iVisit.
 
nmk said:
I'm surprised that MSN for Mac is so lacking considering the rest of the Office Suite is superb. Oh well, guess i'll have to continue forcing people who I want to chat with to download iVisit.
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I don't know... Office X in its current form is VERY weak compared to its PC conterpart...
 
ZildjianKX said:
I don't know... Office X in its current form is VERY weak compared to its PC conterpart...
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I haven't used Office 2003 for Windows, but I've found that Office v.X for Mac is exactly the same as Office XP, except it has a couple of extra features, such as the formatting palette and transparency options (and a nice QuickTime dissolve transition for PowerPoint, even if Keynote does them all a lot better).

I would hardly call Office for Mac weak, unless you're giving a general statement of the Microsoft product.
 
nmk said:
Believe it or not, MSN has almost a complete monopoly in the chat client market outside of the USA. Infact, MSN has become synonymous with chat in most parts of the world. You don't say chat client anymore. You just say, "whats your MSN".
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LOL, So true! :D

C'mon Apple, you're seeing how MS sucks at updating their products for the Mac!!!! Give us iChat that works with MSN. :mad:

Stupid MS... they just want us to buy a PC because updates for the Mac suck! :mad:

Oh well... no webcam usage for me... :rolleyes:
 
coolfactor said:
It's unfortunate, but MSN is huge among Canadian youth. Most of them think it's the _only_ chat out there. I've been trying to get some of my friends to switch to AIM so I can use iChat, but it's not easy.

I sure hope MS delivers a kick-ass product... it's embarrasing showing off a Mac with such a pathetic version of MSN (by today's standards).
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I know it sucks. People even complain when i suggest they switch to AIM...."msn is way better" they scream and yell.
 
johnnyjibbs said:
I would hardly call Office for Mac weak, unless you're giving a general statement of the Microsoft product.
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well, it IS weak in supporting all the macro virii out there :D :D :D

however, the latest v.x version (1.5 update) did make it faster and stable. they did something right. might have been an accident...
 
Diatribe said:
Does anyone who has already seen 4.0 know if they included https support? Because I have yet to find one that does, even Adium only has http.
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I can guranatee you that 4.0 (beta) does not include HTTPS support :mad:.
I doubt that the beta will be any different from the final release.
The Windows version (of course) supports HTTPS, however...
 
apple hopefully adds msn support into ichat, because the ms messenger development seems to be as nonexistent as internet explorer's was before it was discontinued.

maybe 4.0 is the last messenger ms releases for mac? one can only hope...
 
oldschool said:
I know it sucks. People even complain when i suggest they switch to AIM...."msn is way better" they scream and yell.
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Well, it is! AIM is a bad product, it does not look good on anyones desktop, GUI is useless, once you've installed it, it seems to be LOADED with spyware. And its adware. Ugha... I stay clear of it, just as I stay clear of RealMediaPlayer One-thingy. Thats spyware for you there...!!
 
TorbX said:
just as I stay clear of RealMediaPlayer One-thingy. Thats spyware for you there...!!
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a bit off topic i know.. but RealMediaPlayer One-thingy for mac is actually pretty good! the free version has little/no advertising (it must be small, i've never noticed) and seems to play stupid real media files fine! the free version even has a ful screen option! take that Quicktime!

dave :eek:
 
I doubt that MSN support for ichat ever really happens. Sure, it might be a feature added, but M$ will make enough changes to the windows versions to keep it from ever working right. People will get sick of it and probable blame ichat for the craptastic nature of this relationship between the two softwares and switch back to MSN :(
 
I also live in Canada and ALL the people here use MSN. :( I would be happy if I could talk to them on ichat.
 
How about iSpQ?

I just installed the 21-day trial version tonight, and other than having to turn on some ports and forward some IP addresses through my router and Airport, it works pretty well. I was vid confing with my grampa on his WinXP machine within an hour. My main beef is you have to push-to-talk on the audio. But the vid's not bad (~5 fps). Not iChat though...

I may even spring for a full user licence ($39 or so).
 
iChat/iSight useless

I Live in Mexico, and I've never met a single person using AIM, here AOL is not worth to even try out, they offer dial-up connections only and poor services. Sadly, my PC is the only computer where I can chat with the bells and whistles I'm used to, like video, voice, file transfers, profiles, chat rooms, etc.., my buddy list in trillian has about 150 contacts, even a few from the US, about 70% are MSN, and 30% Yahoo, and 4 ICQ dead accounts.
I just can't believe that Apple Stores are selling here iSights, realising that their only function is to take silly pictures of yourself in front of your computer, so IMHO the iChat/iSight solution is SO useless outside the US, so is this MSN Messenger update, as Mac User are confined to text-only chat and poor UI.
 
SmpDigital said:
I just can't believe that Apple Stores are selling here iSights, realising that their only function is to take silly pictures of yourself in front of your computer, so IMHO the iChat/iSight solution is SO useless outside the US, so is this MSN Messenger update, as Mac User are confined to text-only chat and poor UI.
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Where do you buy Macs in Mexico? How are the prices?
(Im from Monterrey, currently living in Austin)
 
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