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----Bowie---- said:
I also live in Canada and ALL the people here use MSN. :( I would be happy if I could talk to them on ichat.


I hear you :( I use MSN for my buddies in Canada and my buddies in the US I use iChat. For camwhoring I use Yahoo IM which crashes all the time. Most of my friends in the states don't even use the AIM client. They use Trillian. I tried Proteus but it doesn't do AIM chats very well at all. MSN needs to be upgraded, so I don't get asked why they can't audio chat and etc. :mad:

Mac bandit said that he doesn't understand why MS doesn't upgrade their client. It makes perfect sense. Why would they ? It makes no sense to do it properly. They need to keep their teenie bopper windows clientel happy with lots of emicons and games. Most parents don't use the home computers, it is their kids. If their kids are happy with MSN and Windows why would suburban mom and dad spring for a 'downtown' mac ? I don't think it is right, but what do you expect ? I wouldn't be surprised to see a version 4.1 that has advertisements for the windows client 6.1 showing you want you aren't getting.
 
adium- best osx chatting program out there

CmdrLaForge said:
On my PC I use Trillian. Is there anything like that on the Mac side ?


adium was just newly redone- it rocks. although still only v0.51 and a little unstable its already surpassed proteus and fire

btw, outside the u.s everyone uses msn- both in s. america and europe- so i have to adapt :(
 
K, I'm not sure how they expect to release it in June, as it can already be obtained (not from the msn site though).

From what I can say, the logo is different (not aqua anymore, but rather a bit darker, and like colored brushed steel). The MSN itself looks exact same, and there are no visual changes. There are 59 emoticons (and the ... one). You can now also do a search for a contact (which is pretty pointless).

IMO, Microsoft should've made picture ability (which is already available in aMSN), and webcam, games, and whiteboard. Apple always brings fully functional software to pc (the ones it does... quicktime, and iTunes), so why is microsoft being gay, and only releasing some features at a time? Other programmers have already shown that it is possible


I DO NOT HAVE A COPY OF MSN MESSENGER 4.0, I JUST HAVE INSIDE SOURCES. for more info, PM me.
 
Impulse29 said:
so why is microsoft being gay, and only releasing some features at a time?

"Not that there's anything wrong with that..."
(The Seinfeld show)

Get ready for being flamed! LOLs :D
 
I just discovered amsn, a clone for mac that'll do pictures and all, and apparently doesn't suffer from as many bugs as msn does. for instance, amsn stays connected in my case... Very nice app for all of ud europeans who haven't caught up with aim yet, and whose friends all use msn. :)
 
Chat wars

i hate msn messenger, but i'm forced to use it because of its popularity among my circle of friends. Its only saving grace is its (almost good) conversation archive system (still takes far too bloody long to load though)

Ive tired many different 3rd party products, like AMSN, proteus, fire and the like but i don't like any of them for their functionality, or appearance. If any of you really recommend a 3rd party app, then ill gladly give it a bit more scrutiny though!

I would JUMP at the chance if someone developed a haxie for iChat that allowed even simple msn support, because (like all apple apps) iChat is an elegant little program to use.
 
chsat wars episode II

i am VERY disappointed with messenger 4 myself, i downloaded it off of poisoned the other week, and its barely developed at all! big whoop... new emoticons and fading alert boxes... thats the only major difference i can see. If Microsoft REALLY cared about its mac community (as it must with various incarnations of office) it would try and lure us away, to its evil XP operating system? (just like apple is doing with the iPod and iTunes all windows compatible.
 
Hi, i don't know if you've already spoke, but on msn 4.0 are there an avatare ??


THX

PS : Sorry for my bad english... :rolleyes: but i speak french and deutsch :D
 
I'm waiting for Apple to introduce iChat for PC. Now, if they did it right, so that it supports all the other protocols, and if they really advertised iSight, I think they'd be onto a winner.

Everyone knows that Apple = Quality.

With the iPod and iTMS, they could really step into the market and convert everyone to iChat. Although there are PC users out there who video chat, they're all PC savvy, whereas my granny can figure out how to use iChat and iSight (when she finds her glasses). They'd probably have to open up dotMAC to everyone, but again, when Apple do something after everyone else, they usually do it properly.

Think about it Apple. Make an iChat for Windows and take over the market. Only Apple can do that. They already use QuickTime components on some phones, and if they could do it right with iChat, it would be THE business.

I'm trying to get folks I work for (abroad) to invest in an iSight so that we can have proper conversations.
 
Colonel Panik said:
Everyone knows that Apple = Quality.

no.

in the pc wonderland everyone knows nothing about apple. if they know something about apple, it's the same old whine "it's not windows compatible. it's expensive. it's not for me"

that attitude has to change, and that's the big challenge for apple to do that.
 
"it's not windows compatible. it's expensive. it's not for me"


799$ is too much for an all in one ? People are misinformed that is the main problem. Apple needs better advertisement. They need to expand on the iPod and iTMS advertisements.
 
vollspacken said:
so do I, and I actually still have an ICQ-account that I use through fire (because all of my friends use ICQ)

wasn't ICQ bought out by AOL??? if so, why wasn't it merged with AIM???

:confused:

vSpacken
because they just wanted to kill icq not use it with aim you know they bought netscape to but the only ting using that is their ultra cheap service
 
Use Adium

'nuff said.

it is the best chat app out there.

skinnable, supports all chat services. and it's free. and bug free, as far as I can tell

adium.sourceforge.net

I still use ichat and yahoo for A/V

but the other 98.5% of the time, adium it is.

don't forget to download some skins.

open source good.
 
dragula53 said:
'nuff said.

it is the best chat app out there.

skinnable, supports all chat services. and it's free. and bug free, as far as I can tell

adium.sourceforge.net

I still use ichat and yahoo for A/V

but the other 98.5% of the time, adium it is.

don't forget to download some skins.

open source good.

Can't find any themes for it... :(
 
amsn

I downloaded amsn and its definitely worth the download. IMO its the best MSN client by far. I just wanted to know how do you use new skins, and how do you create new skins. I think i can make quite a good skin (brushed metal look) i just need to know some stuff. Thanks
milzay
 
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