Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

My house is being plagued by at least 2 spirits, to be documented

I don't believe in any of this stuff and I make fun of my girlfriend (in good jest) because she does.

Now if I had some experiences you have written about, I probably would change my mind........and my pants. Probably my place of living as well.
 
MrCheeto said:
I can believe the world is here and exists...without believing a god created it...
Click to expand...

A soul/Spirit of a person has nothing to do with the belief in God. That is an entire another issues.

To believe in God mean you need to believe you have a Soul.

Believing you having a soul does not require you to believe in God or any other higher power.

What you are describing requires the belief of some one have a soul/Spirit that last after their death.
 
kellen said:
Now if I had some experiences you have written about, I probably would change my mind........and my pants. Probably my place of living as well.
Click to expand...

They don't bother me, really, but since they've become apparently "actively" provoking us, that's where I have a problem. I've never had an entity interact with me, they usually pass by or create shadows, nothing spectacular.

As for souls, I believe something is here, but NOT some spirit of a person. Souls were made up to explain how the organic machine that is the human body has thought and life. However, life and thought can be explained with science. Now we know that all conscious is a series of electrical burst and chemical reactions in the brain and not some magic seed that goes away when you get stabbed and bleed out...which really doesn't make sense...you lose a couple pints of blood and that unleashes your soul from it's physical vessel...not sounding good for the creationists/spiritualists.

It's simply something I can't explain, it could, for all I know, be China. Yeah, China could be in my living room! All those voices I'm hearing could be Ping Mao telling Po Chang about how ugly he thinks the Japanese are.

@Heehee : if you say so. I WAS using a DV firewire cam connected to my Power Mac G4, but I can record with my Sony HD cam as well.
 
I am not someone who's religious, actually, I'm very much against religion. I am also someone who believes science and fact over faith and belief.

However, I have experience what some people refer to as "SLIding." That's Street Light Interference. The first time I was about 14 when I hid under a tree beneath a lampost that went out just before a car of thugs was able to chase me down.

Ever since, when I drive or walk under some street lights, they just go out. And it's just before I go under them that this happens. It happens frequently enough that I can say it's not just coincidence or freak happinings.

I've also experienced other things that make me believe that there are other forces in this universe that we do not understand.

Barring being schizophrenic, I'd say the chances of these happenings to you COULD be very real...
 
XNine said:
I am not someone who's religious, actually, I'm very much against religion. I am also someone who believes science and fact over faith and belief.

However, I have experience what some people refer to as "SLIding." That's Street Light Interference. The first time I was about 14 when I hid under a tree beneath a lampost that went out just before a car of thugs was able to chase me down.

Ever since, when I drive or walk under some street lights, they just go out. And it's just before I go under them that this happens. It happens frequently enough that I can say it's not just coincidence or freak happinings.

I've also experienced other things that make me believe that there are other forces in this universe that we do not understand.

Barring being schizophrenic, I'd say the chances of these happenings to you COULD be very real...
Click to expand...
That happens to me too

You know what else ALWAYS happens? when you get to an intersection on a deserted road but you have to wait for that ONE car to go past
 
I don't believe in this stuff, but I would LOVE to be proven wrong. I think life would be a lot more interesting with ghosts around.
 
XNine said:
However, I have experience what some people refer to as "SLIding." That's Street Light Interference. The first time I was about 14 when I hid under a tree beneath a lampost that went out just before a car of thugs was able to chase me down.

Ever since, when I drive or walk under some street lights, they just go out. And it's just before I go under them that this happens. It happens frequently enough that I can say it's not just coincidence or freak happinings.
Click to expand...
Is that a thing? It happens to me EVERY time I go out at night.
 
Has anyone watched "PARANORMAL ACTIVITY?"

the first thing you do is not interfere or blank around with this...:eek:

i recommend watching T.A.P.S on sci-fi.
 
MrCheeto said:
I live along with 3 people, to be referred to as Panda Duder and Maude for the hell of it. Everybody except Panda is a sensitive to "spirits". I, personally, have lived in 3 "haunted" houses, one which is so active I promise to someday return with friends and document our stay. I have never had a spirit attached to me, rather they are different and I suppose attached to each house. The active house is very most likely evil, the only evil I've encountered until now.
Click to expand...

You go into this automatically biased, thinking there are ghost and you have been in three so-called haunted houses. That kills your credibility. If you think you have been in haunted houses, then your mind will continue to make you think so.
 
dmr727 said:
I don't believe in this stuff, but I would LOVE to be proven wrong. I think life would be a lot more interesting with ghosts around.
Click to expand...

I am with you. I don't ever want to demean what people experience, but I tend to think the mind is pretty creative when a logical explanation is not readily evident.
 
XNine said:
However, I have experience what some people refer to as "SLIding." That's Street Light Interference. The first time I was about 14 when I hid under a tree beneath a lampost that went out just before a car of thugs was able to chase me down.

Ever since, when I drive or walk under some street lights, they just go out. And it's just before I go under them that this happens. It happens frequently enough that I can say it's not just coincidence or freak happinings.
Click to expand...

dukebound85 said:
That happens to me too

You know what else ALWAYS happens? when you get to an intersection on a deserted road but you have to wait for that ONE car to go past
Click to expand...

Mr_Brightside_@ said:
Is that a thing? It happens to me EVERY time I go out at night.
Click to expand...

It happens to everybody. I actually noticed while walking around the block some years ago that a particular light outside my apartment went out every time I walked under it. I couldn't come up with a plausible reason why my presence would cause the light to go out and got curious, thinking maybe it went out when anyone walked underneath, so I set up a time-lapse webcam pointed out my window, at about 1fps.

I got up the next morning and played back the video I'd captured, and it became immediately obvious what was happening: the light was going off regularly every ten minutes, then coming back on a minute or so later, which by coincidence was just about how long it takes me to walk around the block.

It turns out that this is a reasonably common way for streetlights to malfunction. There is an incredibly large number of streetlights you pass every day. Some percentage of them are experiencing this cyclic failure (with varying periods, making it more or less likely you'll experience it with particular lights), and some percentage of the time you're walking you'll just happen to coincide with the "off" cycle of some percentage of those.

Naturally you only remember the ones that did something odd, not the scores of others that didn't, and depending on how well your city maintains the streetlights it can happen just often enough to trick your brain into thinking there's something more significant going on.

Boring, I know. Sorry.
 
This is quite interesting...

I say :
"I don't doubt for one second that you think you're seing these things"

And then Cheeto says:

"So...you think I'm crazy?'"
"But seriously, why do you have to attack me for describing my experiences? "
"Don't criticize me for theorizing."

Immediately, massively on the defensive, and simply making up things, saying you're being attacked ( no one here has attacked you, no one here has said you're crazy ). You're making things up in this very thread. What does that say about the reliability of your recollection of experiences in your own home?

I'm afraid this has symptoms of being attention seeking. Not conscious attention seeking, almost certainly subconscious attention seeking.

"there's no such thing as ghosts" - and yet you immediately jump to paranormal conclusions for what is happening in your house. How can you be so bold as to deny the existence of ghosts, yet insist the existence of something paranormal in your house.

I say it again, and please take this with the genuine good will with which it is meant. You need to seek psychiatric help, and you need to seek it NOW.
 
Wow, these "spirits" make all that effort to find a way around the universal laws of entropy and thermodynamics, just so they can, y'now, vaguely annoy people now and then.

That takes a real commitment to existential mediocrity.
 
MrCheeto said:
A balloon floating around is not frightening, not being able to explain how it "ducked" below doorways to get into the very room that has been so active is where we start worrying.
Click to expand...

Interesting story. I was once house sitting for my mother, and woke up one night with a face in the distance looking at me, it smiled, then winked and dissapeared. I passed it off as memories of the last dream I had, and it must have just been my mind playing tricks. I told my mum when she returned, I explained exactly what I saw and she had seen the same. A head, with red circled cheeks, baby face looks. She saw the same, but then there are babies in the family. Must have been a coincidence :)

Also, to answer your balloon question. If it was floating, I'm assuming it was filled with helium. For it to duck under doorways etc it could be done by a change in air pressure/temperature, or a change in the balloon, for example, when a balloon cools, the pressure inside drops, then the elasticity of the rubber shrinks the internal volume, and the overall volume of the balloon gets smaller. As a result, it displaces less air and therefore loses some of its lifting capacity. Add this to a draft caused by walking along it could cause a bobbing affect on the ceiling of the room, moving it along, under doors.

Anyway, keep positing, I find all this interesting, if not a little dubious - and I think that's only because I pass off my own experiences as 'it must be something else' :)
 
Gelfin said:
snippy snip.
Click to expand...

While I believe what you're saying is true, I cannot say for sure that this is the case as I too tested a lampost at an old apartment complex. I would drive below it to see if it would go out, it would, I'd park my car, come back, and walk under it, and it would go out. This same lamp post ruined a night for me when I told a girl about it and when we drove under it, it went out. She wanted me to take her home. As in, not back to my place so I could get laid, but back to her place so I could NOT get laid.
 
a plan for catching on film

If this phenomenon likes to play with balloons, get about 2 dozen balloons. Place them in your living room. Then make sure your camera is on. Leave the room and wait for your camera to catch the action.
 
Ecoh said:
If this phenomenon likes to play with balloons, get about 2 dozen balloons. Place them in your living room. Then make sure your camera is on. Leave the room and wait for your camera to catch the action.
Click to expand...

RIGHT! I'll start recording those kinds of experiments soon as!

You people forget that I'm approaching this from a scientific standpoint, trying to eliminate possibilities.

Answer me this, how do you explain the beings jumping onto the bed and physically making contact with several of us independently? Your rationalization has a limit, and if you want to pretend to rationalize that then you're, what some call, BS'ing.

djellison said:
This is quite interesting...

I say :
"I don't doubt for one second that you think you're seing these things"

And then Cheeto says:

"So...you think I'm crazy?'"
"But seriously, why do you have to attack me for describing my experiences? "
"Don't criticize me for theorizing."

Immediately, massively on the defensive, and simply making up things, saying you're being attacked ( no one here has attacked you, no one here has said you're crazy ).
Click to expand...

dukebound85 said:
I AM CONVINCED this is a grab for attention imo
Click to expand...

djellison said:
For your own sake, you and the others who believe these things to be real, need to seek urgent psychiatric help
Click to expand...

Xfujinon said:
I suspect that this entire thread is fulfilling a need of yours, the need to be paid attention to, and the need to be argumentative.
Click to expand...

djellison said:
This is quite interesting...

I say :
"I don't doubt for one second that you think you're seing these things"

And then Cheeto says:

"So...you think I'm crazy?'"
"But seriously, why do you have to attack me for describing my experiences? "
"Don't criticize me for theorizing."

Immediately, massively on the defensive, and simply making up things, saying you're being attacked ( no one here has attacked you, no one here has said you're crazy ). You're making things up in this very thread. What does that say about the reliability of your recollection of experiences in your own home?

I'm afraid this has symptoms of being attention seeking. Not conscious attention seeking, almost certainly subconscious attention seeking.

"there's no such thing as ghosts" - and yet you immediately jump to paranormal conclusions for what is happening in your house. How can you be so bold as to deny the existence of ghosts, yet insist the existence of something paranormal in your house.

I say it again, and please take this with the genuine good will with which it is meant. You need to seek psychiatric help, and you need to seek it NOW.
Click to expand...

Hm...contradiction fail...actually some of those posts are yours :eek:

You people seem to think I'm out to find my dead grandmother, or that I'm writin' rhymes with BIGgie on our iced out ouija board. You need to STOP and realize that I rationalize everything and that my PERSONAL experiences (remember, the other experiences are my second-hand accounts and I have a hard time believing them as well) simply have not been explained using the full extent of my knowledge of my own home, science, physics, zoology, and applied mathematics, namely, probability theory.

I'm out to apply scientific method to explain these things. Yes I theorized but I'm not claiming that:
A: These are ghosts
B: My homes are "haunted"
C: The devil is out to get me

LUL, but seriously, I don't believe these are anything that people call ghosts and spirits, these people invent such things either in a stupor or to explain things they don't understand (in the same way religion and spiritualism was invented). I believe that what I am experiencing, personally, is simply something we do NOT understand, and I'm trying to understand them now. THE END.

Update: I've reviewed yesterday's tapes and found nothing out of the ordinary in the living room. Tonight, I've set the camera in my roommate's room where she claims the black figure walks across the doorway very often. After this attempt, I'll have to assume Duder's eyes are out of check or somebody is running around our house in a shroud...or the demon is camera shy XD
 
MrCheeto said:
I've reviewed yesterday's tapes and found nothing out of the ordinary in the living room. Tonight, I've set the camera in my roommate's room where she claims the black figure walks across the doorway very often. After this attempt, I'll have to assume Duder's eyes are out of check or somebody is running around our house in a shroud...or the demon is camera shy XD
Click to expand...

I've not said you're crazy - you're the one claiming we are! Are you that desperate to be called crazy? Do you WANT to be 'attacked'. That would be, well, a little bit crazy. You need a serious reality check about your own behaviour in this thread before we move on to the issue at hand.

I've said you need urgent psychiatric help. NOT that you are 'crazy'. You're on the attack and on the backfoot all at the same time - like a car with understeer and oversteer - you're coming across as a bit of a mess.

You're not being scientific - you're not being rational - you're already assuming that something is actually happening in the world, rather than in your head.

How's this - I'll give $1000 to a charity of your choice if you can provide good photographic or video evidence that this is anything even slightly anomalistic - it would be the discovery of the decade.

If this is anything other than a psychiatric phenomenon piled on top of perfectly ordinary things happening in a house, I will be utterly astonished.

We need more than 'It's really happening'. When someone is suffering from some sort of psychiatric condition, the point at which a diagnosis can be made is the point where they think it's real and fail to appreciate that it may be of their own making. You really are running the risk of putting yourself in that category if you keep pursuing that line of 'attack' for those simply questioning something that you have to admit - is an extraordinary claim.

If I said there was a unicorn at the end of my garden - you would want pictures, right?

So look at this from our perspective a little. What you are claiming is utterly nonsensical and fundamentally outside the known laws of nature. So for us to believe it to be real anywhere other than inside your own head - we're going to need evidence. In the meantime, working under the (not particularly bold) assumption that it IS all within your own head, I repeat my plea to you..

PLEASE seek urgent psychiatric help. If you had a broken leg, you would go to the ER. If you had a sore tooth, you would go to a dentist. I am convinced you need to seek the same attention for your imagination in the hands of a psychiatric specialist. For your own mental health, seek that help now. Delay will almost certainly lead to an exacerbation of the trouble you are having.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back