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Yeah you're right, the fact that if you run this thing caseless and drop it from 4+ feet it has a small chance of breaking is a defect. Quick, let's recall iPhone 4 and every cell phone ever made.

What other cell phones are made of glass both front and back? Maybe were just all idiots for buying them in the first place!
 
I'm really sick of seeing the BS responses issued to people who dropped (or whatever) their phones and ended up with shattered glass.

Accidents happen....however is unimportant. I seriously doubt anyone dropped their new IP4 intentionally. Everyone should stop the "be more careful" crap and holier than thou BS and focus on the fact that Apple touts the new "Helicopter windshield" glass as super-strong. It shouldn't be breaking so easily. Why isn't anyone focusing on that?
No one drops it intentionally. But a lot of people let their guard down because they mistakenly think that because it's stronger, it's indestructible. I would guess that the glass really is much stronger but people are being way more careless with the new Iphone than they were with the previous Iphones.

This Iphone is *very* slippery, too, much more slippery than the 3G-era model was, and if I'm not sitting or using it, it's either flat on a desk, well away from the edge, or in my pocket. I didn't want a bumper but I'm getting one just to keep it from being so slippery - to give it some friction so it won't slide across the desk at the slightest touch.

I don't think people intentionally, purposely break the new Iphone. But I think they're careless and thoughtless with it, treating it like a toy. It's not. It's a luxury item. Yes, it's a phone, but it's a "luxury phone." ***** happens, of course, but I think most people will be fine if they treat it like it's something important rather than a little plaything, like I see most people treating theirs. Tossing them around, flopping them down on tables, counters, flipping them into bins in their cars. What can you expect when you treat stuff that way?

"This is why we don't have nice things!"
 
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Your mama is so fat, when she sits she breaks the iPhone 4 front glass!
;)
 
How many threads about broken glass existed on the 3GS launch? I'm guessing very few....


Once again, most on here are just morons who don't get the fact that Apple was out there boasting about their super-strength glass. That was the point of the thread in first place....you can't teach smart. So sad...
 
Why did anyone really think it was going to be resistant to shattering when dropped? Why would anyone think it would NOT be slippery?

Yeah, it's a pretty phone, but if you wanna toss it around like a football, get an Otterbox or something.

Oh... yeah... but that's a bulky case.

Well... hmm... you cannot show off your iPhone like jewelry unless you wanna treat it like jewelry.

With care.

Can't have it both ways.
 
How many threads about broken glass existed on the 3GS launch? I'm guessing very few....


Once again, most on here are just morons who don't get the fact that Apple was out there boasting about their super-strength glass. That was the point of the thread in first place....you can't teach smart. So sad...

And their glass has been scientifically proven to be very strong. That doesn't make it indestructible.
 
The problem is that you're only seeing the people who dropped it and broke it. That's because no one who drops it and doesn't break it comes on here and starts a thread about it. It's a biased sample. There are 2million+ iPhone 4s out there right now. For all you know, there could be thousands of severe drops that survived perfectly well. But those unlucky few whose phone lands just perfectly on the corner take a whole bunch of pictures and complain about it for days.

Perspective is intersting isn't it...

As somone who hasn't lost a call yet, I have the feelings about the endless threads on reception issues. How much is that issue skewed because you don't see a 'another day with no dropped calls' posts on the board? ;)
 
There have been threads about broken glass right after EVERY iPhone launch.

There are more of them now because the front AND back are glass.

With the other launches, there was the bitchery about scratched and scuffed and dented plastic.

We don't have any of those yet, because well... this phone is mostly glass.

I mean. Duh.
 
Its a lot of ignorant people and a lot of people who kiss Apples ass on this forum. The iPhone 4 definitely isnt built like previous models. How many people actually shattered there iphone 3gs 3g or 2g screen on the first drop? I'm sure the numbers are really low and the chances of it happening over time was rather low. Looks like one or two mishaps with the 4 and well, u know the outcome. SMH. The 4 is a very flawed product and people need to realize it instead of holding up for Apple. At the end of the day, they are taking your hard earned money people.
 
Once again, most on here are just morons who don't get the fact that Apple was out there boasting about their super-strength glass. That was the point of the thread in first place....you can't teach smart. So sad...

Some people might say that the guy who believes the marketing spiel is the moron....

It is glass. Is it strong glass? Yes. Is it unbreakable glass? No, and Apple never said it was.
 
How many threads about broken glass existed on the 3GS launch? I'm guessing very few....


Once again, most on here are just morons who don't get the fact that Apple was out there boasting about their super-strength glass. That was the point of the thread in first place....you can't teach smart. So sad...

As I said, this isn't even a valid assumption. The 3GS didn't sell nearly as many units as quickly. You cannot compare them statistically. Until you do a controlled test with iPhone 4s and other phones, you cannot draw any valid conclusions.

You're taking pure speculation (high number of broken iPhone 4 threads = high failure rate) and blowing it way out of proportion. For all you know, the iPhone 4 could be 10 times more durable than any other phone on the market. For all you know, Apple could have been under selling how strong the new design is.

You simply cannot draw conclusions from data that isn't statistically sound. Saying "omg! look at all the broken iPhone 4 pictures!" means absolutely nothing because you don't have an equal-sized sample for any other phone to compare it to.
 
Its a lot of ignorant people and a lot of people who kiss Apples ass on this forum. The iPhone 4 definitely isnt built like previous models. How many people actually shattered there iphone 3gs 3g or 2g screen on the first drop? I'm sure the numbers are really low and the chances of it happening over time was rather low. Looks like one or two mishaps with the 4 and well, u know the outcome. SMH. The 4 is a very flawed product and people need to realize it instead of holding up for Apple. At the end of the day, they are taking your hard earned money people.

Of all the iPhones I've had, I've dropped them a total of one time. It was my 3GS and it shattered.
 
Of all the iPhones I've had, I've dropped them a total of one time. It was my 3GS and it shattered.

And my experience is the total opposite...Plenty of drops with my 2G and 3GS and the result was a few scratches here and there...nothin major.
 
The new glass doesn't look brittle to me!

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In my opinion, the glass is breaking when it is struck at the edge. All of the photos I've seen show the impact spot at an edge, and spreading from there.

Get a Bumper.

Mark

That pic is when force is applied slowly overtime to the glass -- which is a big difference from the huge sudden force of it smashing into a concrete floor. I guess the problem is people think "hey it bends, I can drop it no problem or it can fly off my table and smash into the floor without breaking"
 
I love :apple: as much as the next guy, but never once did I believe they developed indestructible glass for the iPhone4 no matter what pics or words they use to market it. Glass breaks.
 
I read the problem is how the glass is fitted on the case, it is under pressure, making it vulnerable to shattering
 
yup....

The glass IS super strong. The problem is all 4 corners and edges of the glass are all exposed on the iPhone 4. When the phone drops it's most likely to land on the corner or edge of the glass, meaning it's going to probably crack/break

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WOW seriously? SO the Space Shuttle glass should shatter when it hits earth with this theory.

ugh... it sounds like the guy you responded to knows a little material science cause what he said was absolutely correct. and last time i checked space shuttles don't drop onto the earth, nor are they enclosed in glass... :confused::confused::confused: this is why android fanboys get away with making fun of iphone users....
 
Arguments on both sides of the fence make sense. My problem is the way it was presented to the general public. I'd like to consider myself a pretty intelligent guy, and I was under the impression that this would be really tough glass to shatter unless you were throwing it like a fastball at a brick wall.

All of the careful wording they chose to market this thing "stronger than this" "harder than that" indicated it would be damn tough to break - regardless of HOW it was done. Why not advertise it as just "re-enforced glass"? Those images (see above) mess with the consumers phsyc. clearly a lot of us have been duped into thinking the glass was damn near impossible to break ESPECIALLY when the most common damage occurs... dropping the damn thing.

It's a shame that this phone has been plagued by so many problems already - I really thought they had this phone thing down pat. Hopefully apple will acknowledge the problems some people are experience and make things right for them.
 
When I heard about the new glass, my initial though was it was stronger as in less prone to scratching. When I saw the video of it being bent by that machine I thought it that it was flexible, but didn't really see how it would apply in usage.
 
The problem is that you're only seeing the people who dropped it and broke it. That's because no one who drops it and doesn't break it comes on here and starts a thread about it. It's a biased sample. There are 2million+ iPhone 4s out there right now. For all you know, there could be thousands of severe drops that survived perfectly well. But those unlucky few whose phone lands just perfectly on the corner take a whole bunch of pictures and complain about it for days.

Really? I thought the reason we aren't seeing tons of posts about people dropping their phone and them not breaking is because when people drop their phone and it doesn't break they don't run to the forums and cry about it.
 
I'm really sick of seeing the BS responses issued to people who dropped (or whatever) their phones and ended up with shattered glass.

Accidents happen....however is unimportant. I seriously doubt anyone dropped their new IP4 intentionally. Everyone should stop the "be more careful" crap and holier than thou BS and focus on the fact that Apple touts the new "Helicopter windshield" glass as super-strong. It shouldn't be breaking so easily. Why isn't anyone focusing on that?

Solution:


Don't drop mobile devices
 
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