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my love affair with the iPhone 4S is over.
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This I'd have to agree with 100%
Logic and responsibility sometimes eludes forum members sometimes
This I'd have to agree with 100%
Logic and responsibility sometimes eludes forum members sometimes
They're mad they messed up and had to pay $200 for a replacement of a phone that sells for $650 retail. Please
This thread is ridiculous.
You knew it was fragile when you bought it. The thing is covered in glass. If you're someone who occasionally drops his expensive toys than you should get a case or be more careful. It's like buying a truck that you're going to be taking off road. If you know there's a chance it could get wrecked, you buy brush guards and insurance etc. You don't blame the dealer for not making something more durable.
Then of course there are those videos where Apple demonstrates how tough the glass on iPhone 4 is. Very misleading to say the least. Regardless, the OP just said that he is love affair with iPhone was over. I kind of see why. Do you insist that he should still love this POS made of cheap glass and with a fatally flawed design with both glass plates exposing their edges to the impact during the potential fall?
OP I'm with you 100% and sorry for you situation. Don't worry about the haters that think they won't drop a phone. I read a recent post where a guy was on his phone and a runner ran into him and knocked his phone to the ground. Life happens.
I'm not buying another iPhone until it is redesigned. I don't like the shape, the feel of the corners cutting into my fingers, or trying to pick it up off a table (I wonder about an air hockey table?).
For all the people talking about a buying and dropping a glass phone, remember back to June 2010 where the iPhone 4 was introduced:
"When he introduced the new iPhone 4 at the WWDC conference earlier this week, Apple CEO Steve Jobs said that the company developed a new technology for the glass housing of the iPhone 4. It's called aluminosilicate glass, and is the sort of glass used in the windshield of high-speed trains and helicopters.
Unlike the older iPhone models, the iPhone 4 has both the front and back made of this kind of glass, which Apple says is chemically strengthened to be "20 times stiffer and 30 times harder than plastic." In an Apple video, Jonathan Ive, the company's Senior Vice President of Industrial Design, says the new glass housing is "comparable in strength to sapphire crystal."
-PCWorld
Looking at Apple's website now I can't find any bragging about the iPhone's glass. It's a poor design and Apple gave away a bajillion bumpers to help us out. So cut us butterfingers some slack.
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Also, unlike many with the same situation, the OP is polite, took full responsibility, paid his drop-tax and moved on. Unless I missed a paragraph, his point is the durability of the phone and nothing else. The accusations of entitlement and having unrealistic expectations are off topic. I hope the OP sticks around and contributes to this forum, but after reading through this thread my expectations are low.
Agreed, it always cracks me up when people blame Apple for things they did
Let's say something goes wrong w/ your phone and you need immediate service what would you rather have? An iPhone or an Android?
Me, I'd rather have an iPhone that I can go to the Apple store and get a replacement that day... instead of calling HTC / Samsung and having to wait a week for a replacement sent to me and have to do everything by mail where my phone could get lost/stolen
Probably a good idea.
You can probably get your money out of it .... some member here should have some ideas on that for your location. I'll bet they can suggest more durable phones, as well.
some people clearly have issues hanging onto stuff. My wife dropped her iPhone 4 within a week, thankfully it survived. Instantly purchased an Otterbox defender and it's been safe ever since. I don't have any drop issues as I've never used a case or bumper and since owning the original iPhone back in 2007 I've only once dropped my iPhone 3GS and it survived. The iPhone 4 and now the iPhone 4S have been fine without a case.
If your needing a good case Otterbox defender and a newer company called Ballistic "HC" line are a bit bulky, but do the trick.
If your needing a good case Otterbox defender and a newer company called Ballistic "HC" line are a bit bulky, but do the trick.
This is pretty unfortunate...Glad US has more coverage :], hopefully Apple will expand to other countries as well.
I've had my iPhone 4 since release day and I drop it all the time. I dropped it today at Wal-Mart from my chest and it hit the tile hard. It has yet to break...
I also have never used a case
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My gf samsung captivates charging port stopped working (still under warranty) I send it to samsung to be fixed they say some BS reason that my screen has voided my warranty. They had no details beyond that. They wanted $264 for a new phone. I just bought a external battery charger. I bought her a 3GS recently... no problems.
I also have never used a case
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Agreed, it always cracks me up when people blame Apple for things they did
Let's say something goes wrong w/ your phone and you need immediate service what would you rather have? An iPhone or an Android?
Me, I'd rather have an iPhone that I can go to the Apple store and get a replacement that day... instead of calling HTC / Samsung and having to wait a week for a replacement sent to me and have to do everything by mail where my phone could get lost/stolen
My gf samsung captivates charging port stopped working (still under warranty) I send it to samsung to be fixed they say some BS reason that my screen has voided my warranty. They had no details beyond that. They wanted $264 for a new phone. I just bought a external battery charger. I bought her a 3GS recently... no problems.
stopped reading after like the 3rd drink reference. Genius bar not a real bar stop referencing it a drinking bar. Jesus.
I forgot to state this in my original post but I do think it's unfortunate that the phone was broken. Moving past that though, I do have more points I'd like to make.
Firstly, I'm going to call shenanigans on the fact that you didn't know it was glass. Did you think it was made of plastic? I'm getting the impression if it was made of plastic then you would be complaining right now that you'd paid x amount of pounds for that level of build quality.
Secondly, whether it was dropped, knocked off a table, thrown through a window, or sat on is rather irrelevant. Either you're the one responsible for the damage caused or you're not. Now, if it wasn't you who knocked it off the table then perhaps you should be directing the way you feel towards the person who IS responsible for knocking it off the table and they should be footing the bill of replacing the device. If you are responsible for the damage caused, though, then you should absolutely expect to pay a fee to replace the damaged device.
Thirdly, as far as I'm aware while AppleCare Plus isn't available there are other avenues to take for insuring yourself against what you call the eventuality of dropping and breaking the device. I don't understand why you wouldn't have done that if you're telling us that you would've sprung at the opportunity to purchase AC Plus if it were available.
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I drove a lamborghini and it suck, bang into a tree and it is damage..
pay million for a car and it can't withstand a bang...
if you find my above msg crazy then I think those who complain drop iphone and iphone make a glass also crazy...
Should of bought an ottobox defender for your lamborghini.
Yep I really see the logic here now.
OP I'm with you 100% and sorry for you situation. Don't worry about the haters that think they won't drop a phone. I read a recent post where a guy was on his phone and a runner ran into him and knocked his phone to the ground. Life happens.
I'm not buying another iPhone until it is redesigned. I don't like the shape, the feel of the corners cutting into my fingers, or trying to pick it up off a table (I wonder about an air hockey table?).
For all the people talking about a buying and dropping a glass phone, remember back to June 2010 where the iPhone 4 was introduced:
"When he introduced the new iPhone 4 at the WWDC conference earlier this week, Apple CEO Steve Jobs said that the company developed a new technology for the glass housing of the iPhone 4. It's called aluminosilicate glass, and is the sort of glass used in the windshield of high-speed trains and helicopters.
Unlike the older iPhone models, the iPhone 4 has both the front and back made of this kind of glass, which Apple says is chemically strengthened to be "20 times stiffer and 30 times harder than plastic." In an Apple video, Jonathan Ive, the company's Senior Vice President of Industrial Design, says the new glass housing is "comparable in strength to sapphire crystal."
-PCWorld
Looking at Apple's website now I can't find any bragging about the iPhone's glass. It's a poor design and Apple gave away a bajillion bumpers to help us out. So cut us butterfingers some slack.
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Also, unlike many with the same situation, the OP is polite, took full responsibility, paid his drop-tax and moved on. Unless I missed a paragraph, his point is the durability of the phone and nothing else. The accusations of entitlement and having unrealistic expectations are off topic. I hope the OP sticks around and contributes to this forum, but after reading through this thread my expectations are low.
Thank you.
Too be honest I'm a little bit surprised by this forum and the kind of response I'm getting.
Don't get me wrong, I totally get that I am in the wrong for dropping it. but **** happens... Damn, bugger it..... Yeah I was pissed.... I wasn't angry, I went to Apple to get it fixed. It's under guarantee right... Or at least I thought it was.
I mean all I did was drop it.... Can you fix it please....
I do a bit of research.... And guess what in America they have AppleCare plus... And besides that lots of people getting it exchanged for free at the genius bar
So I go and it costs me £140.....
No big deal, I paid it and moved on.....
Now I got a new phone.... Great.... Not really, what I have is a very expensive, very fragile phone that I have to spend another 100 or so pounds dollars etc just to protect the thing.
There seem to be many people on here who are quick to point the finger at me, I just don't get it...... How dare he criticise the makers of the iPhone.... Stone him.... What an idiot should have got a case......
All I can say is thank you for your constructive comments!
Lesson learnt.
So I should have got a case...
Oh why's that...
Because the iPhone isn't strong enough to withstand a drop or two...
Really....
Ok, but I thought it had ballistic strength plastic.... Oops sorry I meant glass..
Yeah but you can't drop it at certain angles...
Ok.... I'll get a case.....
Wake up people.... It's a poor design, that was never improved upon (in terms of design: NO, functionality perhaps) and doesn't live up to its marketing.
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honestly... I didn't have time to read through your rant... But just to sum up your last line..
Let me agree with you for the sake of argument that the "design" is flawed... This design was released when...? Oh let me answer you... June, 2010... That is almost 18 months ago...
Were there incidents of the glass breaking...? Let me answer you again.... YES...
Were you aware...? You should have been... The "Design flaw" was very publicised...
Did you still choose to buy...? YES...
If you are so adamant on bashing the phone why buy it in the first place...? If you still wanna buy it and you know it is delicate then get a frigging case...! I can understand people who bought it in June last year complaining and cribbing about it... People buying the phone after 18 months and still complaining about it...? I don't think it is justified...
I would rather have a beautifully constructed Glass and stainless steel phone with a bumper that I take care of, as opposed to a plasticky less aesthetically pleasing device in my hands - After all I have a phone on me at all times, it deserves to be a thing of beauty.
I've also dropped my IP4 a few times, infact my mates daughter dropped it the day after I bought it and chipped the glass on the back only, you could hardly see... BUT I knew it was there and I was gutted for about a week... But it was fine for 18 months.
I have a bumper on my iP4S, I've dropped it twice, already threw it by accident once.. I think they are very durable considering what beautiful materials they are made from.
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Calm down, go buy a bumper
Sorry to hear about that, OP.
Being from the UK myself, I can relate to you when you talk about how expensive Apple products and their OoW repairs can be.
I think the only advantage the UK has over the US with regards to the iPhone is that carrier plans, especially iPhone ones, are a little easier to swallow than US ones.
Being from the UK myself, I can relate to you when you talk about how expensive Apple products and their OoW repairs can be.
I think the only advantage the UK has over the US with regards to the iPhone is that carrier plans, especially iPhone ones, are a little easier to swallow than US ones.
You dropped it, it's your fault. What did you think glass was going to do when dropped, usually? Apple has never said it was shatterproof/resistant so no bad marketing there.
OP, if you had dropped an egg and it smashed on the floor, I presume you will apply your iPhone 4S logic and return the aforementioned smashed egg (in bits of yolk and shell) and return it to the supermarket for a refund then
You seem to be the type to blame everyone but yourself for things that go wrong. Jesus an iPhone costs only £499 GBP so it is expensive but not that expensive, so going by this formula why do fighter jets that costs $billion can fail in mid air and crash and F1 cars can get a gearbox failure...?
It's an outrage I tell you
You seem to be the type to blame everyone but yourself for things that go wrong. Jesus an iPhone costs only £499 GBP so it is expensive but not that expensive, so going by this formula why do fighter jets that costs $billion can fail in mid air and crash and F1 cars can get a gearbox failure...?
It's an outrage I tell you
It is hard to believe that people like the looks of their iPhone SO MUCH and yet are willing to wrap it in ugly plastic and rubber.