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*My* Top 10 Reasons to NOT Jailbreak
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#1 is ridiculous just so you know. If there is somehow something that goes wrong with your ipod to the point where YOU cannot restore it, neither can apple. Only a complete hardware failure will keep you from being able to restore in DFU mode. The point of DFU mode is to work every time, no matter what, as it is the failsafe. If there is something keeping DFU from working, your entire ipod aint working either, so theyll never be able to know you jailbroke it.
Just shedding some light.
Just shedding some light.
Funny, out of his 10 items, #1 is the only one that concerns me.
I'd still say it's my primary reason for not messing with JB, even after reading your post. That's nice that you find this situation unlikely, but out of the 6 Macs I've owned in my life, I've come across some VERY strange problems every now and then.
You're telling me that strange problems are limited only to desktop machines and a handheld computer would never see such a thing?
Somehow, I'm not buying it.
DFU is in a completely seperate area of the memory, which is why you can access DFU mode NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO SOFTWARE WISE (unless of course you do things like reflashing memory, but thats way outside the realm of jailbreaking).
Your hardware has to be broken for you not to have access to the DFU mode. Thats the whole point of it.
Right, so let's say the dock connecter breaks. The power still gets through, but no computer can't talk to the phone.
Apple will replace my phone if that happens, they wouldn't replace a JB phone and you'd have no way to do anything about it. (Just one exmample I thought up, I'm sure there are others.)
Now are these things likely? Of course not. But I don't like the "no way it can happen" arguments. Out of millions of phones, a few will find a way.
The way I see it, if you're willing to buy a new phone, go for it. I mess around with my laptop because I'm WILLING to buy a new laptop if I break it. So it's ok to play around with stuff on it. I'm not willing to buy a new phone if I mess it up, so I'm not going to risk it. Simple as that.
For everyone who's willing to buy another iPhone if something happens, I totally suggest jailbreaking! Lots of fun stuff! But I'm not willing, so that's it for me.
I'm not arguing against jailbreaking, I think it's cool! I just don't agree that it's risk-free. It's a tiny, tiny risk, but it's not zero.
Well most of them are just personal reasons, I was just hoping people would get over this "cant restore" myth. If you cant restore, its because of hardware problems, and your ipod/iphone wont be functional anyway.
This is of course disregarding the 10.5.6 glitch that locked users from restoring in OSX (that was an OS error, nothing to do with the iphone).
Run your battery out. It wont turn on. They cant find out about the jailbreak.
My "no way" doesnt factor in morons that wouldn't think of something so simple.
The dock connector wouldnt just power it and not be able to connect to the computer.
Now that's just wishful thinking. Anything is possible with electronics. I wouldn't have thought a CD-Drive could explode a CD-ROM into 100 pieces, but I've seen THAT happen! It this any less likely than that?
Again, I'm not saying it's likely, but this could happen, in which case the Apple tech will plug it in and that's that.
Tell me how you damage the 28 pins and not the 2 that power the device? (i think thats the numbers for the 30 pin connector from memory).
I take it your the kind of person that sits at home on the couch everyday on the off chance that going outside would get you hit by a bus?
I take it your the kind of person that sits at home on the couch everyday on the off chance that going outside would get you hit by a bus?
No, because I have medical [insurance]
(edit).
But I'm not risking my phone over this because then I'd end up with the cheapest phone you can imagine and that would suck.
Like I said, if I was willing to buy anoter phone, I'd JB. Since that's not going to happen, I don't.
I'm sure most people aren't like me so I'm quite happy that they're JBing. I understand my situation is different.
By all means, its your choice, I'm just not the kind of person that lets a one in a million risk keep me from opening up my options.
Cheers.
What I meant by #1 is this:
I'm not saying the jailbreak can screw up the hardware, but I remember a very smart girl that had her phone jailbroken and her it randomly shut off and would no longer boot. She tried restoring, DFU, different computers... Basically, it refused to restore. Guess what... She was using the pwnapple logo so Apple wouldn't give her a new iPhone.
I also knew someone who had his home button break and he installed something that made his iPod touch unable to fully boot (springboard was in a continuous startup loop) and obviously he couldn't put it in DFU Mode or restore mode and iTunes would not recognize it. He also had the pwnapple logo installed.
I guess the moral of these stories are... Don't use the custom boot logos. Hehe. None of this changes the fact that jailbreaking voids the warranty.
Fair enough. I jailbroke, found out I still don't like it as much, then I restored.
I have my reasons.
I'm not saying the jailbreak can screw up the hardware, but I remember a very smart girl that had her phone jailbroken and her it randomly shut off and would no longer boot. She tried restoring, DFU, different computers... Basically, it refused to restore. Guess what... She was using the pwnapple logo so Apple wouldn't give her a new iPhone.
I also knew someone who had his home button break and he installed something that made his iPod touch unable to fully boot (springboard was in a continuous startup loop) and obviously he couldn't put it in DFU Mode or restore mode and iTunes would not recognize it. He also had the pwnapple logo installed.
I guess the moral of these stories are... Don't use the custom boot logos. Hehe. None of this changes the fact that jailbreaking voids the warranty.
Fair enough. I jailbroke, found out I still don't like it as much, then I restored.
I have my reasons.
I'm like you in that I jailbroke on version 1, and it was good. The apps were great.
The version 2 came out, and with it the app store, and it took all reason to jailbreak away with it.
I did try jailbreaking again about a month ago. There are a lot of themes, and not much else. I really don't care about themes.
The version 2 came out, and with it the app store, and it took all reason to jailbreak away with it.
I did try jailbreaking again about a month ago. There are a lot of themes, and not much else. I really don't care about themes.
what a shame, you couldn't help her with the task?!
that's just my opinion, not about jailbreak. maybe im wrong or right, so later i will start a topic with that.
untrue about the spacebar (and also several other things people claim can't be themed)
Just look here at this Blackberry storm theme
it has a full set of GUI images, and a custom keyboard
http://www.modmyi.com/forums/new-skins-themes-launches/477631-perfectstorm-2-0-a.html
there's even a blue glow instead of a pop up when touching a key on the keyboard (a lot of people thought that was impossible)
the theme maker does a lot of different themes that completely change
the theme maker does several different themes that theme the full GUI in addition to the springboard (he even found a way to embed the touch to unlock hack right into the theme, so you turn it on and off in winterboard at your leisure)
You're still wrong about the space bar font and font COLOR. If you still don't believe me. Look at these screenshots.
Notice the text in Safari... it's almost black... it doesn't look good. Also, the spacebar on the keyboard is the same blue color that it is on the default keyboard... as well as the font style is default. If you're gonna post links to themes to prove your point, you should post links that actually help your point.
Edit: By the way, that's one of the ugliest themes I've ever had to look at.
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Totally agree. To the O.P great post.
I think maybe a lot of the younger set think it's somewhat "cool" to JB.
Nice list. I recently just put my phone back in jail. I couldn't think of a good reason.. for me... to keep it jailbroken. I liked Backgrounder but didn't like how it would make the phone run, I liked StatusNotifier but I usually just go to an email or SMS as soon as I get it.
Overall, I was doing it for Cracked Apps, but I figured that if I were the developer, I wouldn't mind someone cracking my app but I'd like them to... endorse me, if you will. That is to say, if it's good, why not pay for it?
So I did. My phone used to be quite buggy with what I had on it and now it's just smooth
This might not be the case with everyone but it was for me. One thing I do miss, though, is BiteSMS
Overall, I was doing it for Cracked Apps, but I figured that if I were the developer, I wouldn't mind someone cracking my app but I'd like them to... endorse me, if you will. That is to say, if it's good, why not pay for it?
So I did. My phone used to be quite buggy with what I had on it and now it's just smooth
This might not be the case with everyone but it was for me. One thing I do miss, though, is BiteSMS
Time for my opinion. I am jailbroken, though so I use it for much differently than most others I suppose.
1. I am not worried about being unable to restore, the likeliness of that happening are probably lower than me dying in a car crash. I'll take my chances.
2. I do not have Winterboard and my phone is absolutely 100% as fast as it was unjailbroken (as long as I do not have backgrounder running a program).
3. I rarely have the time to update my phone within 24 hours of the release, I have more important things to do. By the time I can sit down to do it the patch is almost always released.
4. Aptbackup is the answer, but I don't even use it. I have never had to restore my phone besides an update. I also do not have a ridiculous amount of modification.
5. My phone, jailbroken or not, has never had any problems with running slow or buggy. At the very most it occasionally force quits something. That happens regardless of if you are jailbroken or not though.
6. I never use Winterboard, most of the themes are sloppy and the hit your RAM takes is not worth it.
7. Cycorder, Backgrounder (Pandora), Clippy, 5 icon Dock, PDAnet, Quickgold and iRealSMS are the only things I have installed. All extremely useful, but a lot of the other applications I would agree with you.
8. If nothing else (though I use it all the time) the "poof" feature on SBSettings is necessity for me. I have 5 pages of Apps on my phone, but only 3 pages showing. No need for applications that I no longer use or rarely ever need to be taking up space.
9. iRealSMS while I believe it to be a crap program is extremely useful. I have it hidden on springboard and still use the default text application for 90% of my texting. IrealSMS quick reply option still functions though, allowing me to respond to text messages without leaving the application I am using. I can also forward a message if need be.
10. Again, I have a lot more important things to worry about than somebody taking my phone and hacking into the information.
1. I am not worried about being unable to restore, the likeliness of that happening are probably lower than me dying in a car crash. I'll take my chances.
2. I do not have Winterboard and my phone is absolutely 100% as fast as it was unjailbroken (as long as I do not have backgrounder running a program).
3. I rarely have the time to update my phone within 24 hours of the release, I have more important things to do. By the time I can sit down to do it the patch is almost always released.
4. Aptbackup is the answer, but I don't even use it. I have never had to restore my phone besides an update. I also do not have a ridiculous amount of modification.
5. My phone, jailbroken or not, has never had any problems with running slow or buggy. At the very most it occasionally force quits something. That happens regardless of if you are jailbroken or not though.
6. I never use Winterboard, most of the themes are sloppy and the hit your RAM takes is not worth it.
7. Cycorder, Backgrounder (Pandora), Clippy, 5 icon Dock, PDAnet, Quickgold and iRealSMS are the only things I have installed. All extremely useful, but a lot of the other applications I would agree with you.
8. If nothing else (though I use it all the time) the "poof" feature on SBSettings is necessity for me. I have 5 pages of Apps on my phone, but only 3 pages showing. No need for applications that I no longer use or rarely ever need to be taking up space.
9. iRealSMS while I believe it to be a crap program is extremely useful. I have it hidden on springboard and still use the default text application for 90% of my texting. IrealSMS quick reply option still functions though, allowing me to respond to text messages without leaving the application I am using. I can also forward a message if need be.
10. Again, I have a lot more important things to worry about than somebody taking my phone and hacking into the information.